Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Good news feedback

2012-06-12 Thread kpb
On Tue, 12 Jun 2012 07:42:01 +0100 alan c wrote: > I can see many evenings "playing" coming up. Great that your customer took the time to send some feedback. Thanks to advice on this mailing list, I've just found out how easy it is to image the whole of a hard drive including the mbr using the

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Good news feedback

2012-06-11 Thread alan c
Experiences at my displays at the Computer Fairs vary, however I received this by email yesterday (now anonamised) This person was interested in trying Ubuntu and had a fairly new Windows 7 machine, a method of reinstalling Windows7 if necessary, and had an Ubuntu 12.04 CD from me. I do not kn

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Tipping Point conditions analysed

2012-01-09 Thread YaManicKill
> Even sillier, a quote from the article: "When the number of committed > opinion holders is below 10 percent, there is no visible progress in > the spread of ideas. It would literally take the amount of time > comparable to the age of the universe for this size group to reach the > majority,".  Ho

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Ubuntu in China and Portugal

2011-11-21 Thread Tony Pursell
On 21 November 2011 14:36, Andy Braben wrote: > > > On 21 November 2011 14:25, Tony Pursell wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> The old Netbook Remix, I think. Why not Unity? Perhaps they want to >> stay with 10.04LTS. >> >> >> The Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 was NOT LTS, only had an 18 month life > which h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Ubuntu in China and Portugal

2011-11-21 Thread Andy Braben
On 21 November 2011 14:25, Tony Pursell wrote: > > > > > The old Netbook Remix, I think. Why not Unity? Perhaps they want to stay > with 10.04LTS. > > > The Ubuntu Netbook Remix 10.04 was NOT LTS, only had an 18 month life which has now expired. I never knew it was not LTS until I read that it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Ubuntu in China and Portugal

2011-11-21 Thread Tony Pursell
On 21 November 2011 12:31, alan c wrote: > > That's the way to do it! > > As of this week, Ubuntu is now on sale in over 100 retail outlets in > Portugal. > > http://blog.canonical.com/2011/11/18/ubuntu-launches-at-retail-in-portugal-with-asus > The old Netbook Remix, I think. Why not Unity? P

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Ubuntu in China and Portugal

2011-11-21 Thread alan c
That's the way to do it! As of this week, Ubuntu is now on sale in over 100 retail outlets in Portugal. http://blog.canonical.com/2011/11/18/ubuntu-launches-at-retail-in-portugal-with-asus Canonical and Dell announced the start of an exciting retail program to sell machines pre-loaded with Ubuntu

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] #iuseubuntubecause

2011-10-02 Thread alan c
Have just seen this hash tag shown on the main ubuntu site http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/why-is-it-free And I thought 'what a good idea'.. Come on everybody, let's get it trending! -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk ht

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms -Ted5 minute video

2011-09-23 Thread thegeeksquadron
Titterton Sender: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 22:55:23 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 22:15 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 22/09/11 18

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-23 Thread Barry Titterton
On Thu, 2011-09-22 at 22:15 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 22/09/11 18:06, paul sutton wrote: > > If a friend complains their computer has a virus, ask what is a > > virus?,and say you use Ubuntu and never have that issue, offer to dual > > boot their computer or at least boot a live cd and recover th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-23 Thread paul sutton
On 23/09/11 19:40, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Paul Sutton wrote: >> i can show kids my netbook adn tell them about alternatives but >> unless there is a proper support structure out there its going to be >> hard to get them to try it, as they need help when they need it >> even with windows floss soft

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-23 Thread Avi Greenbury
Paul Sutton wrote: > i can show kids my netbook adn tell them about alternatives but > unless there is a proper support structure out there its going to be > hard to get them to try it, as they need help when they need it > even with windows floss software. Linux has better end-user support than

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing

2011-09-22 Thread Rob Beard
On 22/09/11 17:06, paul sutton wrote: Hi I think to highlight the situation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Posters there is a poster here, for 5.04, now that seems to be years and I mean years out of date its like trying to put up a poster to promote windows XP ) Surely there should b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-22 Thread alan c
On 22/09/11 18:06, paul sutton wrote: > If a friend complains their computer has a virus, ask what is a > virus?,and say you use Ubuntu and never have that issue, offer to dual > boot their computer or at least boot a live cd and recover that > essential file, they a) leave happy, b) get a good i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-22 Thread paul sutton
On 22/09/11 12:31, thegeeksquad...@ymail.com wrote: > A nice analogy, if not a bit dirty-minded, but we won't judge ;). > > The problem with Linux is that we always take it, take the patent > infringements, take the lies, the barrage that Microsoft put upon us. > > Microsoft said that Linux infrin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing

2011-09-22 Thread paul sutton
On 22/09/11 17:30, Rebecca Newborough wrote: > On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:06 PM, paul sutton wrote: >> Hi >> >> I think to highlight the situation >> >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Posters >> >> there is a poster here, for 5.04, now that seems to be years and I >> mean years out of date

Re: [ubuntu-uk] marketing

2011-09-22 Thread Rebecca Newborough
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:06 PM, paul sutton wrote: > > Hi > > I think to highlight the situation > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Posters > > there is a poster here,  for 5.04,  now that seems to be years and I > mean years out of date its like trying to put up a poster to promote > windo

[ubuntu-uk] marketing

2011-09-22 Thread paul sutton
Hi I think to highlight the situation https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing#Posters there is a poster here, for 5.04, now that seems to be years and I mean years out of date its like trying to put up a poster to promote windows XP ) Surely there should be a policy of the lifecycle of posters o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-22 Thread Paul Sutton
On 22/09/11 16:11, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 22/09/11 10:50, alan c wrote: The FLOSS world's lack of competence, or even appetite, for publicity or marketing is the elephant in the room. i don't think we lack competence just the ability to find people who can work together to produce a comm

[ubuntu-uk] Marketing [Was Re: efi boot, Windows 8 and Linux]

2011-09-22 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 22/09/11 10:50, alan c wrote: The FLOSS world's lack of competence, or even appetite, for publicity or marketing is the elephant in the room. 1) FLOSS, GNU/Linux etc, 'marketing' is pretty well non existent compared to non free products. 'I advertise, therefore I exist' (apologies to Descart

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-22 Thread thegeeksquadron
ep 2011 12:01:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted 5 minute video When something (sex) is a must have, then even the valuable life saving benefits of condoms need a real world marketing strategy. I fou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted5 minute video

2011-09-22 Thread thegeeksquadron
ep 2011 12:01:41 To: British Ubuntu Talk Reply-To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] A lesson in marketing - Congo condoms - Ted 5 minute video When something (sex) is a must have, then even the valuable life saving benefits of condoms need a real world marketing strategy. I fou

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] materials for marketing

2011-06-11 Thread gazz
On Sat, 2011-06-11 at 17:40 +0100, alan c wrote: > On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:24 +0100, john beddard wrote: > > > >> Hello Gazz,Sarah : > >> > >> I'm also interested in developing materials in the area of introducing > >> Ubuntu, as a non-profit. So please

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] materials for marketing

2011-06-11 Thread alan c
On 11/06/11 16:51, gazz wrote: On Fri, 2011-06-10 at 13:24 +0100, john beddard wrote: Hello Gazz,Sarah : I'm also interested in developing materials in the area of introducing Ubuntu, as a non-profit. So please keep me in the information loop. I would like to contribute. Hi John - yes

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] The Picasa barrier, lower it.

2011-04-20 Thread alan c
On 20/04/11 09:05, Simon Greenwood wrote: On 20 April 2011 08:28, alan c wrote: I have just learned that Google has discontinued GNU/Linux based support for Picasa although old versions are still available. Why care? I do not use it myself, but I am full time involved in helping newcomers

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] The Picasa barrier, lower it.

2011-04-20 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 20 April 2011 08:28, alan c wrote: > I have just learned that Google has discontinued GNU/Linux based support > for Picasa although old versions are still available. > > Why care? I do not use it myself, but I am full time involved in helping > newcomers move towards Ubuntu, inevitably they ar

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] The Picasa barrier, lower it.

2011-04-20 Thread alan c
I have just learned that Google has discontinued GNU/Linux based support for Picasa although old versions are still available. Why care? I do not use it myself, but I am full time involved in helping newcomers move towards Ubuntu, inevitably they are Windows users. Most want to change from Win

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Dianne Reuby
On Fri, 2010-08-27 at 09:32 +0100, alan c wrote: > PLEASE make your own contact with the RS in this matter, after all > they *are* asking! Done that! But considering some of the information I've gained from other replies (eg RM) I can't help wondering what a survey will accomplish. Do the RS hav

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Jacob Mansfield
will the RS rm -r rm? On 27 August 2010 09:32, alan c wrote: > On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: > > > Express your views to the Royal Society soon. > > http://royalsociety.org/Education-Policy/Projects/ > > I am a bit perplexed. There have been approximately 20 entries in this > thread so far, a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Bell
thanks for this, I will pass it on to the http://opensourceschools.org.uk community and might have a go at responding myself. Alan. On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: > or nearly that, anyway. > > Article: > Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech > Lessons that is, not games, mobil

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 27/08/10 09:27, Sean Miller wrote: > Well, assuming that we are not seriously going to blow up any > machines... I wonder how Research Machines managed to become nothing > more than Windows enforcers? When I was at school we had the classic > RML-380Z > > For those who are too young to remember

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread alan c
On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: > Express your views to the Royal Society soon. > http://royalsociety.org/Education-Policy/Projects/ I am a bit perplexed. There have been approximately 20 entries in this thread so far, and I do not recall any single one person saying they will contact the Roya

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Sean Miller
Well, assuming that we are not seriously going to blow up any machines... I wonder how Research Machines managed to become nothing more than Windows enforcers? When I was at school we had the classic RML-380Z For those who are too young to remember, there's a contemporary review here... http://v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Jacob Mansfield
hey I could always send them my MEMORY STICK OF DEATH On 27 August 2010 09:20, Kris Douglas wrote: > Damnit that is similar to my idea, I was going to send him a shiny Windows > disk full of viruses to blow up his pc... oh, it seems that's been coming as > default since Windows 3.11 for crappy R

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-27 Thread Kris Douglas
Damnit that is similar to my idea, I was going to send him a shiny Windows disk full of viruses to blow up his pc... oh, it seems that's been coming as default since Windows 3.11 for crappy RM workstations. Sent from my Android powered HTC Hero. On 26 Aug 2010 23:08, "Jacob Mansfield" wrote: I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
I still could, I just need to run sudo apt-get nitroglycerine sudo apt-get install timer tar bomb > package sendmail bomb b...@rm.shithead.iddiot from s...@google.xxx can't wait for it---^^^ On 26 August 2010 22:55, Grant Sewell wrote:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Sewell
On Thu, 26 Aug 2010 22:31:35 +0100 Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: > > On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker > > wrote: > >> On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: > >>> but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, > >> My

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 22:45, Jacob Mansfield wrote: > when I was in primary school I made plans to send a large bomb to RM > > > Pity you didn't do it - I'm sure that schools IT would be in a FAR better state if you had! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
when I was in primary school I made plans to send a large bomb to RM On 26 August 2010 22:31, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: > On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: > > On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker > wrote: > >> On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: > >>> but said becau

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 22:27, Kris Douglas wrote: > On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >> On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: >>> but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, >> My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and RM >> is a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Douglas
On 26 August 2010 22:24, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: >  On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: >> >> but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, > > My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and RM > is a TOTAL NIGHTMARE. They dictate to schools what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 26/08/2010 19:25, Kris Douglas wrote: > > but said because of the computer contract with Research Machines, My wife works for the largest Educational Publisher in the world and RM is a TOTAL NIGHTMARE. They dictate to schools what software they can or can't use - any software has to be "val

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Kris Douglas
On 26 August 2010 18:33, alan c wrote: > On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: >> or nearly that, anyway. >> >> Article: >> Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech >> Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: >> >> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_compu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread alan c
On 26/08/10 07:10, alan c wrote: > or nearly that, anyway. > > Article: > Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech > Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ > > 'exam results have shown computing subj

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread alan c
Dianne Your real experiences may be key to the Royal Society's investigation, I do hope you can seriously consider contributing. if nothing else, almost a straight copy and paste of what you are saying here is information which paints a valuable picture to them. And they may be getting very dif

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
apparently A lever IT is better, I'll find out in a year On 26 August 2010 12:48, Paul Tansom wrote: > ** Matt Sturdy [2010-08-26 09:50]: > > On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > > > My experience of GCSE IT was that it was "This is Microsoft Word, write > > > a 2 page document

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Craig Peden
As a student in Scotland currently studying Computing, I can safely say that computing is well subscribed to up here. However, for personally there are some turn offs. When I am older I would like to be a programmer, but we are taught visual basic. I realise that it is an easy language but I want t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Paul Tansom
** Matt Sturdy [2010-08-26 09:50]: > On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney wrote: > > My experience of GCSE IT was that it was "This is Microsoft Word, write > > a 2 page document including a table, a graphic and a footnote." which is > > _not_ what IT should be about. I lost _huge_ amounts o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Grant Sewell
Further to the other replies... I've had a look through the KS3 and the KS4 curricula and, in my opinion, there's nothing in there that is necessarily "bad". So if it isn't the subject itself that's turning people away, perhaps it is the people who teach it. In my experience, all too often a sch

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Jacob Mansfield
GCSE IT must always be done the boring and monotonous way, instead of the fun and interesting way that the markers can't be bothered to learn it properly On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: > > or nearly that, anyway. > > > > Art

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Matthew Daubney
> > > I attended an excellent school for GCSE/A-Level and had a very similar > experience, and consequently had absolutely no interest in computing > until after I had finished my degree. The thing that got me hooked > was problem solving. Having an issue, researching it, and then fixing > it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Dan Attwood
> > > IT should be more about computers less about office work! > > Increasingly the stance is that IT functional skill should be embedded across all lessons. Therefore part of say GCSE Biology would be to create a report using word with tables, footnotes for references etc. Hopefully this will fr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Matt Sturdy
On 26 August 2010 09:37, Matthew Daubney wrote: > On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: > > or nearly that, anyway. > > > > Article: > > Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech > > Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: > > > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Matthew Daubney
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:10 +0100, alan c wrote: > or nearly that, anyway. > > Article: > Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech > Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ > > 'exam results have s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread David Jones
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 07:16 +0100, Sean Miller wrote: > Personally, I think that half the reason people find computers boring > these days is that there isn't the "mystique" about them that there > was when I was growing up (the 80s)... you had a BBC Micro, your mate > had a Commodore 64... you arg

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-26 Thread Dianne Reuby
Perhaps they haven't looked at the GCSE curriculum - I've been a computer-holic for almost 40 years, and it sent me into a coma of boredom! Also, most experts or enthusiasts I think still prefer to do IT rather than teach it. My daughter had 5 IT teachers in one year - one took their coursework

Re: [ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-25 Thread Sean Miller
Personally, I think that half the reason people find computers boring these days is that there isn't the "mystique" about them that there was when I was growing up (the 80s)... you had a BBC Micro, your mate had a Commodore 64... you argued about which was the better computer and you programmed sma

[ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Royal Society asks you - why IT is boring?

2010-08-25 Thread alan c
or nearly that, anyway. Article: Royal Society opens inquiry into why kids hate tech Lessons that is, not games, mobiles, Facebook: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/08/25/royal_society_schools_computing/ 'exam results have shown computing subjects are failing to grab kids' attention' Coul

[ubuntu-uk] (Marketing) Article - will MS collapse?

2010-08-12 Thread alan c
Heads up for an excellent article which has an anaylitical view on the operating systems business models, and their current and possible future status. It is a long item, so grab a hot drink too. A Fund Manager Tries To Figure Out Whether Microsoft's Business Will Collapse http://www.businessi

[ubuntu-uk] (marketing) If you like it, tell others about it!

2010-07-26 Thread alan c
I took a few leaflets about Open Source Software to my local Library today, and although the main town Library accepts a few, the local Library down the road treated the situation with suspicion. I pondered this, and later decided that it was really down to probably a lack of knowledge by the l

[ubuntu-uk] [Marketing] Bracknell Ubuntu 'Hour'

2010-07-22 Thread alan c
Are you near Bracknell Berkshire? There are regular meet ups at South Hill Park relating to interest in Ubuntu. The meet up is limited to a nominal hour of time, and anyone may attend. It is primarily a social and contact meet up, although technical stuff can get discussed too if wanted. The nex

[ubuntu-uk] marketing - UbuntuLeaflet.pdf

2010-06-13 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Has the ubuntuleaflet.pdf been updated for 10.04 using the new colour scheme yet? I HAVE tried to google, but simply cannot find things in amongst files relating to ubuntu releases as far back as 6.06 and beyond. If its is available then I can lo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Tim Powys-Lybbe
On 30 Jan at 0:28, Steve wrote: > The Danish proposal sounds very positive, unlike some of the > wishy-washy bits in ours. I wonder if the wishy-washy bit is because the native lot are not prepared to throw out buying licences to proprietory systems as that may be the only economic source of c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Steve
On Sat, 30 Jan 2010 00:05:11 -, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 30/01/10 00:02, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > >> >> This has been discussed at length. The Action Plan itself is pretty >> good, but unfortunately the Cabinet Office seem to have little or no >> power to actually police or enforce it.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 30/01/10 00:02, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > This has been discussed at length. The Action Plan itself is pretty > good, but unfortunately the Cabinet Office seem to have little or no > power to actually police or enforce it. > > If you are interested follow some of the links on my blog post her

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 29/01/10 22:14, alan c wrote: > A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more > like it means business than the preceding ones. > > Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan > http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf This has bee

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Steve
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 23:13:30 -, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>> >> I fear it may take a long, long time for things to get moving. They >> still >> haven’t got round to sorting a minor problem on the Job Centre systems. >> They can’t print £ and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> > I fear it may take a long, long time for things to get moving. They still > haven’t got round to sorting a minor problem on the Job Centre systems. > They can’t print £ and haven’t for nearly ten years. > Talking of jobcentre plus the new

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Steve
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:55:27 -, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Steve wrote: >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c >> wrote: >> >>> A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more >>> like it means business than the prec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Chris Rowson
As much as I'd like to see a greater take up of OSS within Government, I don't think we're there yet. It's interesting that the document mentions Birmingham City Council's forays into the Linux desktop. I wrote about this some time ago: http://www.justuber.com/blog/2006/11/20/how-to-spend-half-a-m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Steve wrote: > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c > wrote: > >> A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more >> like it means business than the preceding ones. >> >> Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Governme

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread Steve
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 22:14:28 -, alan c wrote: > A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more > like it means business than the preceding ones. > > Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan > http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_sou

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Heads up - Government wants FOSS

2010-01-29 Thread alan c
A third attempt at a published Government strategy. It looks even more like it means business than the preceding ones. Open Source, Open Standards and Re-Use: Government Action Plan http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/media/318020/open_source.pdf Forward (extract) Whe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-20 Thread alan c
Matthew Daubney wrote: > On 17/01/10 12:37, alan c wrote: >> Tony Pursell wrote: >> >>> Conversion is a marketing job. >>> >> +1 >> >> > Surely by educating users we will help stem a lot of the negative press > and the uneducated retail staff problem though? Don't you think that a l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-19 Thread Matthew Daubney
hod yet such as Classroom or the > numerous online delivery methods? > > Dave > > -Original Message- > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com > [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Steve > Sent: 18 January 2010 20:16 > To: UK Ubuntu Talk >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-19 Thread Matthew Daubney
On 17/01/10 12:37, alan c wrote: > Tony Pursell wrote: > >> Conversion is a marketing job. >> > +1 > > Surely by educating users we will help stem a lot of the negative press and the uneducated retail staff problem though? >> Training can only >> be aimed at people who are already co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Dave Etheridge
? Dave -Original Message- From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: 18 January 2010 20:16 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:13:34 -, John Matthews

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 19:42:32 -, Paul Sutton wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > >>> >> >> I believe that the course content and arrangements are an issue that >> can be solved as required. I think the major question is - Who is >> going to, or wants to, attend? >> May

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Steve
On Mon, 18 Jan 2010 10:13:34 -, John Matthews wrote: > Steve wrote: >> On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews >> wrote: >> >> >>> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be >>> good to have taught lessons. >>> >>> John. >>> >>> >> So what would you l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Ged Byrom
2010/1/18 John Matthews > Steve wrote: > > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews > wrote: > > > > > >> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be > >> good to have taught lessons. > >> > >> John. > >> > >> > > So what would you like to be taught? > > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> > > I believe that the course content and arrangements are an issue that > can be solved as required. I think the major question is - Who is > going to, or wants to, attend? > Maybe this is a chicken and egg situation with 'marketing'? > There i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-18 Thread John Matthews
Steve wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews wrote: > > >> I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be >> good to have taught lessons. >> >> John. >> >> > So what would you like to be taught? > > Installation stuff, using the Terminal, pro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread Steve
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:50:56 -, John Matthews wrote: > I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be > good to have taught lessons. > > John. > So what would you like to be taught? -- Steve -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread John Matthews
I would like to be part of it. I am learning on my own, but it would be good to have taught lessons. John. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread alan c
Steve wrote: > I know from talking to people in the pub that a awful lot > of people have no interest in another operating system. that could be where marketing comes in > Their computer > comes with one and that’s what they’re going to use. As you say training > > will probably have

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread alan c
Tony Pursell wrote: > Conversion is a marketing job. +1 >Training can only > be aimed at people who are already converts, or who are the rare few > who cannot have MS Windows. > > If we are to get past 'gatekeepers' who are died in the wool MS users, > then we will need a really cast iron

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread Steve
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 12:04:38 -, Tony Pursell wrote: > On 17 Jan 2010 at 10:02, alan c wrote: > >> Apart from ignorance, even sheer prejudice, there is strong inertia to >> continue with their existing OS whatever it is. >> >> There is, surprising to me, little motivation for many people I k

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread Norman Silverstone
> < snip > > > > If we are to get past 'gatekeepers' who are died in the wool MS users, > > then we will need a really cast iron reason to teach Ubuntu to people. > > Something more than its just good for people to know that there is > > another OS other that MS. > > > Is this information of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread Norman Silverstone
< snip > > If we are to get past 'gatekeepers' who are died in the wool MS users, > then we will need a really cast iron reason to teach Ubuntu to people. > Something more than its just good for people to know that there is > another OS other that MS. > Is this information of any help to the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread Tony Pursell
On 17 Jan 2010 at 10:02, alan c wrote: > Apart from ignorance, even sheer prejudice, there is strong inertia to > continue with their existing OS whatever it is. > > There is, surprising to me, little motivation for many people I know, > to move from Windows. However, as Ubuntu gains more coverag

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] Possible Training Events

2010-01-17 Thread alan c
Jon Spriggs wrote: > I have forwarded the e-mail to the uk-hackspaces mailing list, as there are > several regional hackspaces across the UK (London, Birmingham, Manchester, > Liverpool, Leeds) who may be able to help - in some cases with venue and in > others with knowledge. > [...] >useful for

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] heads up Chinese XP Ubuntu

2010-01-05 Thread LeeGroups
alan c wrote: > It may be of interest to know that an OS based on Ubuntu 9.10 has > been produced in Chinese. > > Relax with the English translation: > http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ylmf.org%2F&sl=zh-CN&tl=en > > enjoy > W

[ubuntu-uk] [marketing] heads up Chinese XP Ubuntu

2010-01-04 Thread alan c
It may be of interest to know that an OS based on Ubuntu 9.10 has been produced in Chinese. Out of interest I have downloaded the iso, checked the md5sum, and run the CD as live, with a few small guesses because I dont read Chinese. It looks superficially like XP, although I have not explor

[ubuntu-uk] [Marketing] Open source is the new driving force - article

2009-12-11 Thread alan c
computing.co.uk magazine Article Open source ins the new driving force http://digg.com/d31CbXu extract: The realisation comes when an organisation finds it has not bought a software product but rather a software service. What at first seemed to be a shrink-wrapped purchase soon turns into an endl

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread Liam Proven
2009/7/23 Sean Miller : > Earls Court??!?! > > Linuxworld Expo never was at Earls Court when I attended it... was > always Olympia 2. > > Sean Same here, FWIW. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/liamproven Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/GoogleTalk/Orkut: lpro...@gmail.com Tel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread Sean Miller
Earls Court??!?! Linuxworld Expo never was at Earls Court when I attended it... was always Olympia 2. Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread alan c
alan c wrote: > I have just noticed this expo. Unfortunately I will not be able to > attend these dates. [...] Thanks Alan and Bill - it seems my information is groundless, sorry all. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk htt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread Bill Quinn
[mailto:ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of alan c Sent: 23 July 2009 14:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009 Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/7/22 alan c : >> I have just noticed this expo. Unfortunately I will not b

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread Alan Pope
2009/7/23 alan c : > I must admit I was slightly surprised to see it, but here is what I saw: > http://www.bvents.com/event/172935-linuxworld-expo-uk-2009 > Looks like a duff business events site to me. They seem to have just scraped data from around the place. They even list entries for the next

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [marketing] LINUXWORLD EXPO UK 2009 Oct 1 2009

2009-07-23 Thread alan c
Alan Pope wrote: > 2009/7/22 alan c : >> I have just noticed this expo. Unfortunately I will not be able to >> attend these dates. >> > > Where did you notice it out of interest? I must admit I was slightly surprised to see it, but here is what I saw: http://www.bvents.com/event/172935-linuxworld

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