Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi Patrick, To return to your original request about Java, Oracle have prevented it being easily available in distributions' own package managers because of a license change. There's a PPA that gives you easy access to the latest versions of Java 6, 7 and 8. If you go to https://launchpad.net/~we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Liam Proven
On 16 May 2013 09:51, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I was looking at Dash Home, not at the Software Centre. The search box I was > talking about was the one on Dash Home. Synaptic used to be available direct > from there, presumably because it was already installed. But no more. I > never use the Softwa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread surfer
On Thu, 2013-05-16 at 09:08 +0100, Avi Greenbury wrote: > Rowan Berkeley wrote: > > > it remains a fact that if > > Synaptic was available in any of the categories of the Software > > Center, including 'Technical Items' if such a thing exists, then a > > general search from the search box would fi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Avi Greenbury
Rowan Berkeley wrote: > I was looking at Dash Home, not at the Software Centre. The search > box I was talking about was the one on Dash Home. Synaptic used to > be available direct from there, presumably because it was already > installed. But no more. I never use the Software Centre (the red > sh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 16/05/13 08:45, Colin Law wrote: -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/ I was looking at Dash Home, not at the Software Centre. The search box I was talking about was the one on Dash Home. Synaptic used to be availab

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Avi Greenbury
Rowan Berkeley wrote: > it remains a fact that if > Synaptic was available in any of the categories of the Software > Center, including 'Technical Items' if such a thing exists, then a > general search from the search box would find it, and it doesn't. It does here: http://avi.co/s/synapticinsof

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-16 Thread Colin Law
On 15 May 2013 21:08, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/05/13 20:56, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 15 May 2013 20:36, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> Yes, well, it's possible I'm under some sort of spell. But I tried >>> switching >>> off the privacy control, in case by some peculiar chain of logic that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 21:08, "Rowan Berkeley" wrote: > > On 15/05/13 20:56, Liam Proven wrote: >> >> On 15 May 2013 20:36, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >>> >>> Yes, well, it's possible I'm under some sort of spell. But I tried switching >>> off the privacy control, in case by some peculiar chain of logic that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 20:56, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 May 2013 20:36, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Yes, well, it's possible I'm under some sort of spell. But I tried switching off the privacy control, in case by some peculiar chain of logic that was relevant, but it still wasn't there. There's 'Legal Notice' at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 20:36, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Yes, well, it's possible I'm under some sort of spell. But I tried switching > off the privacy control, in case by some peculiar chain of logic that was > relevant, but it still wasn't there. There's 'Legal Notice' at the bottom > right, but nothing at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 20:29, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 May 2013 20:17, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Not in mine. I suppose we could compare screenshots. I could take a screenshot of mine and put somewhere for you to see. I have vanilla 13.04 on three machines, and I can testify that what you describe is not what

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 20:17, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Not in mine. I suppose we could compare screenshots. I could take a > screenshot of mine and put somewhere for you to see. I have vanilla 13.04 on > three machines, and I can testify that what you describe is not what is on > any of them. I've been in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 19:58, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 May 2013 19:17, Rowan Berkeley wrote: Liam, that's the 11.10 version of the Software Center. It doesn't look like that any more. :-) It's close enough. Before I posted, I tried it, and the "technical items" link is still there in 13.04 in exactly the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 19:17, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Liam, that's the 11.10 version of the Software Center. It doesn't look like > that any more. :-) It's close enough. Before I posted, I tried it, and the "technical items" link is still there in 13.04 in exactly the same place. It was in 12.10 as well

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 19:15 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/05/13 19:06, surfer wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:45 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > >> On 15/05/13 17:33, surfer wrote: > >>> On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 19:04 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > On 15 May 2013 18:59, surfer wrote: > > I have opened it using both the methods you suggested and yes I am > > prompted for a password. However, the Apply button is still greyed out. > > You realise that it remains greyed out until you've se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 19:04, Liam Proven wrote: On 15 May 2013 18:59, surfer wrote: I have opened it using both the methods you suggested and yes I am prompted for a password. However, the Apply button is still greyed out. You realise that it remains greyed out until you've selected some actions - insta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 19:06, surfer wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:45 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/05/13 17:33, surfer wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: I have just updated my system to 12.10.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:45 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/05/13 17:33, surfer wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > >> On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: > >>> On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: > I have just updated my system to 12.10. > > I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 18:59, surfer wrote: > I have opened it using both the methods you suggested and yes I am > prompted for a password. However, the Apply button is still greyed out. You realise that it remains greyed out until you've selected some actions - installation/removal/upgrades - right? He

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 18:56, surfer wrote: > There is no technical items link at the bottom inconspicuous or not. This is /after/ searching for "synaptic", yes? -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:31 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > On 15 May 2013 17:33, surfer wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > >> On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: > >> > On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: > >> >> I have just updated my system to 12.10. > >> >> > >> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:40 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > On 15 May 2013 17:38, surfer wrote: > > Thank you for your contribution. However, for some reason it does not > > seem to appear in my version of the Software Centre and I find that > > strange as I have two separate desktops. > > Have you c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 18:26 +0100, Colin Law wrote: > On 15 May 2013 17:38, surfer wrote: > > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:30 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > >> On 15 May 2013 17:20, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > >> > Actually, you can't get Synaptic via the Software Center. I'm sure > >> > Patrick > >> > tri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 17:33, surfer wrote: On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: I have just updated my system to 12.10. I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but cannot find a key

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 May 2013 17:33, surfer wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: >> > On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: >> >> I have just updated my system to 12.10. >> >> >> >> I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgre

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 May 2013 17:38, surfer wrote: > On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:30 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 15 May 2013 17:20, Rowan Berkeley wrote: >> > Actually, you can't get Synaptic via the Software Center. I'm sure Patrick >> > tried that before posting. Indeed, we all tried it, and the absence of >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 17:38, surfer wrote: > Thank you for your contribution. However, for some reason it does not > seem to appear in my version of the Software Centre and I find that > strange as I have two separate desktops. Have you clicked the rather inconspicuous "technical items" link at the bott

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:30 +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > On 15 May 2013 17:20, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > > Actually, you can't get Synaptic via the Software Center. I'm sure Patrick > > tried that before posting. Indeed, we all tried it, and the absence of > > Synaptic from the Software Center has oc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
On Wed, 2013-05-15 at 17:20 +0100, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: > > On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: > >> I have just updated my system to 12.10. > >> > >> I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but > >> cannot find a key or lock that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 May 2013 17:20, Rowan Berkeley wrote: > Actually, you can't get Synaptic via the Software Center. I'm sure Patrick > tried that before posting. Indeed, we all tried it, and the absence of > Synaptic from the Software Center has occasioned a lot of unfavourable > comment. But of course you ca

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Rowan Berkeley
On 15/05/13 17:09, Colin Law wrote: On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: I have just updated my system to 12.10. I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but cannot find a key or lock that I can use to download them. Before I used Synaptec, which seems no longer to e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread Colin Law
On 15 May 2013 16:51, surfer wrote: > I have just updated my system to 12.10. > > I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but > cannot find a key or lock that I can use to download them. Before I used > Synaptec, which seems no longer to exist. > > I wonder if somebody

[ubuntu-uk] Packages for Java and Postgresql

2013-05-15 Thread surfer
I have just updated my system to 12.10. I have been looking for both recent versions of Java and Postgresql, but cannot find a key or lock that I can use to download them. Before I used Synaptec, which seems no longer to exist. I wonder if somebody could assist me Many thanks Patrick Mulvey -