Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netgear WPN111 on ndiswrapper

What one do you recommend to work straight away? On 13/02/07, Roberto Sarrionandia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I couldn't get mine working, I bought a new one. Andrew Gee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all, > > I've converted my mate to linux when his windows in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > OK Richard Stallman, I'm sure you're not so insensitive as to compare > the civil rights struggle and suffrage to your preference for Open > Source software! In what way would that

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > OK Richard Stallman, I'm sure you're not so insensitive as to compare > the civil rights struggle and suffrage to your preference for Open > Source software! In what way would that be insensitive? It would be insensitive to claim that we w

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 14/02/07, baza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Am I bovered? Does this face look bovered? You disrespecting my family? You calling me a Piky? Now look what's happened - you've gone and made Baza go all Catherine Tatey. The world may never recover. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 1) Civil rights for black people, women etc. were never gained through market forces. We're attempting to attain freedom of software for all people, the same applies (to an extent) to us. OK Richard Stallman, I'm sure you're not so insens

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On Wed, 2007-02-14 at 00:43 +, Daniel Watkins wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Pat wrote: > > Market forces change the world. Not much else. > I have two counterpoints: > 1) Civil rights for black people, women etc. were never gained through > market forces. We're a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > Market forces change the world. Not much else. I have two counterpoints: 1) Civil rights for black people, women etc. were never gained through market forces. We're attempting to attain freedom of software for all people, the same applies

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 14/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No, seriously, if we do nothing, things are just bound to change, aren't they? That's the way all change has happened in this world. Market forces change the world. Not much else. If GNU/etc represents enough of a revenue to a manufactur

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, seriously, if we do nothing, things are just bound to change, aren't they? That's the way all change has happened in this world. I cannot possibly produce evidence, but that doesn't mean we should stop doing it. There is no evidence that it does h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 21:16 +, Llywelyn Owen wrote: > A search on "linux" as opposed to "kernel" in Synaptic returns than I > have linux-386 2.6.15.25 installed. etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty - > is this expected? This laptop was only ever Dapper. I wanted to > install a Parallels trial but i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And how would you back up your argument, which appears to be that there's no point doing anything which won't get immediate results? If we don't do this stuff then it won't happen. So instead of citing any justification for your "argument

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > ...and how would you back up that argument - examples of Free software > users' letters affecting a hardware manufacturer's choice of licence? And how would you back up your argument, which appears to be that there's no point doing anyth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I would argue that letters stating the fact that you're not intending to spend your money on them because of licenses would make a difference. ...and how would you back up that argument - examples of Free software users' letters affectin

[ubuntu-uk] renouveau - helping the nvidia driver team.

Could I draw your attention to a thread on the forums about the renouveau tool. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=357369 It seems that anyone with an nvidia card can help out the open source nvidia driver guys by running this small application and sending the results back. I don't know h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > > > On 13/02/07, *Daniel Watkins* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > Begging letters will not influence their decision on which > licence to choose. I would argue that letters stating the fact that you're not int

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > On 13/02/07, *Daniel Watkins* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of a company that uses > > software

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 20:21 +, Robert McWilliam wrote: > On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:53:49 + > Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That doesn't look right. As far as I recall Linux kernel 2.4 has never > > been shipped with Ubuntu. It's always had 2.6. > > There are 2.4 kernels in the arc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Robbo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not a fan of Software Patents myself but in the meantime you can Patent your software "ideas" to help Linux... http://www.openinventionnetwork.com / Yes, I have come across it. I have a bit of a problem with Software Patents in general, though;

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > On 13/02/07, *Daniel Watkins* > <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of a company that uses > > software patents to extort cash? Particularly given the threat tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of a company that uses > software patents to extort cash? Particularly given the threat that > software patents pose to Free Software. I'm not. I want them to Free their drivers. This is what,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > 2 points:- > 1. Why do you want to increase the profits of a company that uses > software patents to extort cash? Particularly given the threat that > software patents pose to Free Software. I'm not. I want them to Free their drivers. > 2

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In addition, it doesn't do to be snooty about who we decide to ask to Free their drivers. Any Free drivers are a win for the momentum of the Free software movement. Snooty??!!! Excellent argument - you may just have won me round to your

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Netgear WPN111 on ndiswrapper

I couldn't get mine working, I bought a new one. Andrew Gee wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all, > > I've converted my mate to linux when his windows install kept mucking > up. He's very impressed so far, especially with the installer! But he > has a problem. > > He

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > I still don't quite understand though, why I (or any Linux user) would > want to help Kodak become more successful? > > If they're smart enough to open their drivers then they might get more > business. If they aren't, there are plenty o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13 Feb 2007, at 21:37, Pat wrote: Personally, I would enjoy seeing Kodak go out of business - software patents are the biggest threat to Linux (and innovation in general) that there is. http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/en/m/intro/ index.html Not a fan of Software Patents myself but in t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > How would I write letters on a Kodak printer without purchasing one? Write letters to them saying that you won't consider purchasing their products unless there are Free drivers ava

[ubuntu-uk] Netgear WPN111 on ndiswrapper

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I've converted my mate to linux when his windows install kept mucking up. He's very impressed so far, especially with the installer! But he has a problem. He owns a WPN111 usb wireless adapter which didn't work "out of the box" on ubuntu. It

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Llywelyn Owen wrote: > A search on "linux" as opposed to "kernel" in Synaptic returns than I > have linux-386 2.6.15.25 installed. > etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty - is this expected? This laptop was only > ever Dapper. I wanted to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

A search on "linux" as opposed to "kernel" in Synaptic returns than I have linux-386 2.6.15.25 installed. etc/apt/sources.list.d is empty - is this expected? This laptop was only ever Dapper. I wanted to install a Parallels trial but it can't find the kernel source. Why are there two version numbe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > How would I write letters on a Kodak printer without purchasing one? Write letters to them saying that you won't consider purchasing their products unless there are Free drivers available. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I believe that Llywelyn was, in fact, referring to the writing of letters, emails etc., rather than the actual purchase. I'm not sure I follow... How would I write letters on a Kodak printer without purchasing one? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pat wrote: > On 13/02/07, *Llywelyn Owen* wrote: > > But you may benefit in the long term if they are successful enough > to disrupt the status quo > I'm sorry, but I take that kind of behaviour into account when making > purchasing decisions.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:53:49 + Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That doesn't look right. As far as I recall Linux kernel 2.4 has never > been shipped with Ubuntu. It's always had 2.6. There are 2.4 kernels in the archives even though the default installed is 2.6: http://packages.ubuntu.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Llywelyn Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: But you may benefit in the long term if they are successful enough to disrupt the status quo I can't see myself benefitting from anything that Kodak or SCO or any other failing company turned patent-troll does. My take on it was that they

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 18:43 +, Llywelyn Owen wrote: > I need to install the kernel source on my Dapper laptop, the Synaptic > package manager shows v 2.4.27-12 is available for download. But uname > -a returns: 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 > GNU/ > > Why? That do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

But you may benefit in the long term if they are successful enough to disrupt the status quo -- Hwyl/Regards Llywelyn Owen -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

On 13/02/07, Llywelyn Owen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Kodak is introducing a line of desktop printers and low cost replacement inks. A brave move which I hope will break the dominance of the proprietary cartridge sellers. I hope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

On Tue, 2007-02-13 at 18:43 +, Llywelyn Owen wrote: > I need to install the kernel source on my Dapper laptop, the Synaptic > package manager shows v 2.4.27-12 is available for download. But uname > -a returns: 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 > GNU/ > > Why? 2.4 is

[ubuntu-uk] dapper kernel source

I need to install the kernel source on my Dapper laptop, the Synaptic package manager shows v 2.4.27-12 is available for download. But uname -a returns: 2.6.15-27-386 #1 PREEMPT Fri Dec 8 17:51:56 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/ Why? -- Hwyl/Regards Llywelyn Owen -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Partition imagining and dvd burning.

I've just noticed the spellng in the subject field!. Imagine that! -- Hwyl/Regards Llywelyn Owen -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

On 13/02/07, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, On Sun, February 11, 2007 11:12 pm, Philip Wyett wrote: > On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Philip Wyett wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have >> > some seri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Partition imagining and dvd burning.

On 13/02/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Llywelyn Owen wrote: > > Gparted screenshots has "Copy" button. Does it create an image (which I > > need) or a data backup from that partition to another drive/optical drive? > > I've never used this option, but my understanding is that it will

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)

On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:48:31 -, Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that does erk me sometimes is people who push the thousands of > apps > in the repositories when most normal folks only use a small core of > applications. A real > annoyance is when people fire up synapt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu

> > Unfortunately Ubuntu isn't going to be promoted by high profile > advertising anytime soon, so we are going to have to fall back on word > of mouth, stickers, and so on. > to be honest if the whole word of mouth and such things worked then we wouldn't have a problem right now. For example y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu CNR deal

Hi, On Sun, February 11, 2007 11:12 pm, Philip Wyett wrote: > On 09/02/07, Dean Sas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Philip Wyett wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > I have been reading about the Ubuntu / Linspire CNR deal and I have >> > some serious reservations about it. >> > >> > Will CNR be part of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu

>> I like the idea of raising awareness. Most people are nowadays geared >> to expect advertising, mostly high profile advertising. If a product >> is not advertised, it does NOT exist. >> >> I think that a good start is to use as many Ubuntu bumper stickers as >> we can. Simple, quick, mass advert

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)

On 2/13/07, Stephen Morrish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2/13/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > James Tait wrote: > > Hi all, > > > >> We have to ask ourselves why we use Linux over other OS's and > >> why ubuntu over other distro's. I think you will find many different > >> answers.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)

On 2/13/07, alan c <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: James Tait wrote: > Hi all, > >> We have to ask ourselves why we use Linux over other OS's and >> why ubuntu over other distro's. I think you will find many different >> answers. > > I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this has hit upon something

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)

On 2/13/07, Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 12/02/07, James Tait <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robin Menneer wrote: > > You also need to carefully define your target eg the huge population > of > > semi-bored computer-illiterates might be more productive than > > experienced-with-wind

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Awareness-Raising Campaign Idea (was Ubuntu CNR deal)

James Tait wrote: > Hi all, > >> We have to ask ourselves why we use Linux over other OS's and >> why ubuntu over other distro's. I think you will find many different >> answers. > > I don't mean to hijack this thread, but this has hit upon something > that's been bubbling up in my brain and I th

[ubuntu-uk] Kodak launch refillable inkjet printers

http://www.computershopper.co.uk/?news/news_story.php?id=103873 Kodak is introducing a line of desktop printers and low cost replacement inks. A brave move which I hope will break the dominance of the proprietary cartridge sellers. I hope we'll get Linux drivers for these printer - perhaps a fe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Partition imagining and dvd burning.

Llywelyn Owen wrote: > On 13/02/07, *Neil Greenwood* wrote: > > > I think Adam misunderstood the question. Gparted won't create images > of partitions, > > > > Gparted screenshots has "Copy" button. Does it create an image (which I > need) or a data backup from that partition to ano

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Partition imagining and dvd burning.

On 13/02/07, Neil Greenwood wrote: I think Adam misunderstood the question. Gparted won't create images of partitions, Gparted screenshots has "Copy" button. Does it create an image (which I need) or a data backup from that partition to another drive/optical drive? Thanks again for your he