Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tony Arnold wrote: > Oh, you seem fairly ept (is that the opposite of inept?) to me. Adept? -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFyTFU3arasOikFPYRAskcAJ94

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK linux organisations (was Re: French FLOSS for Schools)

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Webb wrote: > Perhaps we should create a site that is for people who already use > Linux, for co-ordinating the lobbying of the UK government. I would suggest that before you go to all the bother of creating this website and the accompanying o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Aptitude dependency hell

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Travis
Tony Arnold wrote: > I've just run aptitude in full screen mode for the first time on my > Dapper system and in the third line down it tells me: > > #Broken: 235 Will free 915MB of disk space DL: 5576kB > [...] Hello, Tony. Try running aptitude in command-line mode: aptitude -f install

[ubuntu-uk] Aptitude dependency hell

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Arnold
I've just run aptitude in full screen mode for the first time on my Dapper system and in the third line down it tells me: #Broken: 235 Will free 915MB of disk space DL: 5576kB and at the bottom of the screen with a red background is says: Suggest 5 installs, 32 removals, 133 keeps. I've run ap

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Arnold
Doog, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No offence taken, I realise I am inept when using this facility, I will > not feel humiliated by any guidance offered. I will try to do better! Oh, you seem fairly ept (is that the opposite of inept?) to me. As others have pointed out, it's more important that p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Arnold
Pat wrote: > > > On 06/02/07, *Caroline Ford* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > We seem to spend far to much discussing this. I've seen horrors like top > posting done by core developers on other lists are really no-one > cares ;) > > > Good point . Disc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread lairddoog-mailstar
Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Apologies, it wasn't meant to be patronising! Although I can see how it comes across that way. I was just thinking that if this is an etiquette that users new to mailing lists are to have thrown at them, we don't want to make the rules so complicated or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Robert McWilliam
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007 21:31:29 + "Robin Menneer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm the more confused. You both seem to say that I can use KDE > > software on Gnome (ubuntu) if I go to a lot of trouble (and > > knowledge that I lack) to make it work. Or am I just not > > understanding the iss

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread James Dalley
>norman wrote: >results achieved by Alana Pope, I am not sure that I could meet the Is that your weekend alter-ego?? James _ Live Search: Better results, fast http://get.live.com/search/overview-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/6/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Alan Pope wrote: >> >> >> Yes. I run GNOME here, see what happens when I try to install digikam (a >> KDE app):- >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install digikam >> Password: >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Pat
On 06/02/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We seem to spend far to much discussing this. I've seen horrors like top posting done by core developers on other lists are really no-one cares ;) Good point . Discussions about how to hold discussions. Meta-discussions? Where would it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Arnold
Doog, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > */Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Looks good, although I'd like to see a bit more about quoting. It should > suggest users intersperse their replies with the original message, so > that responses to points follow the points raised in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Caroline Ford
Alan Pope wrote: >> >> >> Yes. I run GNOME here, see what happens when I try to install digikam (a >> KDE app):- >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo apt-get install digikam >> Password: >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> The fo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Caroline Ford
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > */Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Matthew, > > Matthew East wrote: > > On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: > >> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >>> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Caroline Ford
Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 18:26 +, Caroline Ford wrote: > >> If you are running with kde libraries installed I'd recommend krita the >> kde bitmap editor as well. >> >> I really think the gimp is being oversold by the community in general. >> It is very badly designed and do

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-06 Thread Andrew Price
On 06/02/07 10:10, Daniel Watkins wrote: > Andrew Price wrote: >>> I know of at least one module in my computer science course that is >>> being taught specifically with Microsoft tools. "Building Reliable Web >>> Applications" I think it's called. Makes me wonder if MS are paying the >>> Comp Sci

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 17:51 +, Robin Menneer wrote: > > This is news indeed. Having read the wranglings between the > protagonists of the various versions of Linux, I had gained the > impression that software was exclusive to the basis sprecification. It's true to say that often a "pac

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 19:38 +, Llywelyn Owen wrote: > There was a letter in the IN Gear supplement of last Sunday's edition > of Sunday Times where the correspondent was adopting Linux and wanted > some tips, Ubuntu was recommended. This was totally unexpected, I've > emailed the journalist con

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread lairddoog-mailstar
Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Matthew, Matthew East wrote: > On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: >>> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm happy to put it in >>> mailman's post to new subscribers. >>> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 18:26 +, Caroline Ford wrote: > If you are running with kde libraries installed I'd recommend krita the > kde bitmap editor as well. > > I really think the gimp is being oversold by the community in general. > It is very badly designed and doesn't do 32 bit colour. The

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Mellors
! Oh, and some articles about DVDs not working with Vista! I'll let people know about this one as I've just got a copy of Windows Vista Home Premium. Cheers Paul -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Tony Arnold
Matthew, Matthew East wrote: > On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: >> On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: >>> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm happy to put it in >>> mailman's post to new subscribers. >>> > > How about the following: > > http://www.

[ubuntu-uk] Sunday Times - In Gear and MS

2007-02-06 Thread Llywelyn Owen
There was a letter in the IN Gear supplement of last Sunday's edition of Sunday Times where the correspondent was adopting Linux and wanted some tips, Ubuntu was recommended. This was totally unexpected, I've emailed the journalist concerned many times saying that he never encouraged the use of ope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Caroline Ford
Robin Menneer wrote: > > > On 2/6/07, *Matthew East* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > How about the following: > > http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists/etiquette > > > Wot's a digest email please ? > An email digest is all the mail sent over a certain ti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/6/07, Matthew East <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: >> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm happy to put it in >> mailman's post to new subscribers. >> How about the following:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Caroline Ford
David Morley wrote: > Like many others, I enjoy processing digital photos. In the old days I > played in the darkroom, now I like to think that my computer, plus > software, is my digital darkroom. So, what do I want to do? I want to be > able to selectively crop whilst maintaining a fixed aspect,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK linux organisations (was Re: French FLOSS for Schools)

2007-02-06 Thread Benjamin Webb
On 06/02/07, Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Benjamin Webb wrote: > > We need to try to get an official UK page for Linux, which will > > include, amongst other things the list of people and their MPs that > > was suggested, so that we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/6/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Like many others, I enjoy processing digital photos. In the old days I played in the darkroom, now I like to think that my computer, plus software, is my digital darkroom. So, what do I want to do? I want to be able to selectively crop whilst maintain

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/6/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:46:03PM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > We use all the facilities in iphoto. I've had a good look at f-spot and, > >although very friendly, it falls far short of iphoto. Can I use KDE > >derived > >digikam if I am in ubun

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread norman
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 18:32 +0100, Matthew East wrote: > On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: > > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: > >> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm happy to put it in > >> mailman's post to new subscribers. > >> > > How about th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Etiquette

2007-02-06 Thread Matthew East
On Tue, February 6, 2007 8:46 am, Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 01:04 +, Jonathan Riddell wrote: >> If somebody comes up with a good text I'm happy to put it in >> mailman's post to new subscribers. >> How about the following: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/lists/etiquette -- h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK linux organisations (was Re: French FLOSS for Schools)

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Benjamin Webb wrote: > On 05/02/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Benjamin Webb wrote: > > > Is there any "official" overal site for Linux in the UK? > I have found http://linux.co.uk/ and http://www.linux.org.uk/, Perhaps the best place to start, or to coordinat

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK linux organisations (was Re: French FLOSS for Schools)

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Webb wrote: > We need to try to get an official UK page for Linux, which will > include, amongst other things the list of people and their MPs that > was suggested, so that we can all lobby simultaneously. The way that I > see it, the Ubuntu U

Re: [ubuntu-uk] numbering gone erratic

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, London School of Puppetry wrote: > Can anyone help? I am in Ubuntu 6.10. The numbering function has gone > erratic producing numbers of different sizes Can you try to narrow down which "numbering function" is this. If the computer is completely turned off, which steps (such as

Re: [ubuntu-uk] UK linux organisations (was Re: French FLOSS for Schools)

2007-02-06 Thread Benjamin Webb
On 05/02/07, Caroline Ford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Benjamin Webb wrote: > > What about my UK-Linux question. Is there any "official" overal site > > for Linux in the UK? > > > There is nothing official and UK only that I know of. There is > http://www.fsfeurope.org/ and some interesting resour

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread norman
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 14:44 +, Alan Pope wrote: > On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 01:51:31PM +, norman wrote: > > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > > complicated but, by a bit of judicious selec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread norman
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 14:32 +, gord wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:51 +, norman wrote: > > > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > > complicated but, by a bit of judicious selection, a r

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread norman
snip > > Happy birthday for next week wish my old Dad would switch to Ubuntu. Thank you Caroline. Tell your Dad that Ubuntu is the best thing since sliced bread. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread norman
< snip > > > I'm sure I've seen an e-book on the Gimp? Might be worth hitting search > engine of choice. There is Grokking the Gimp which is very helpful and also several websites such as:- http://www.gimpguru.org/Tutorials/ http://gimpguru.org/AskTheGuru/G20050312/ Norman -- ubuntu-uk@list

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread David Morley
Like many others, I enjoy processing digital photos. In the old days I played in the darkroom, now I like to think that my computer, plus software, is my digital darkroom. So, what do I want to do? I want to be able to selectively crop whilst maintaining a fixed aspect, usually 7 x 5 because I prin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 01:51:31PM +, norman wrote: > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > complicated but, by a bit of judicious selection, a relatively few key > presses, plus patience. gives m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 02:36:52PM +, baza wrote: > On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:51 +, norman wrote: > > > > > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > > complicated but, by a bit of judicious se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 norman wrote: > > Perhaps it could make a useful > subject for a video or perhaps there is a piece of software other than > Gimp to give the same end result. You could find your local (G)LUG and offer to give a tutorial on the GIMP... -BEGIN PGP S

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread baza
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:51 +, norman wrote: > > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > complicated but, by a bit of judicious selection, a relatively few key > presses, plus patience. gives me m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] numbering gone erratic

2007-02-06 Thread David Morley
On 06/02/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Can anyone help? I am in Ubuntu 6.10. The numbering function has gone > erratic producing numbers of different sizes and defaulting back to > Times New Roman- but not for all the numbers in the list- very odd. I > am trying to pro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread gord
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 13:51 +, norman wrote: > The only application I have found which will give me all of the few > things I use is Gimp. I know there are those who say Gimp is too > complicated but, by a bit of judicious selection, a relatively few key > presses, plus patience. gives me my e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 06/02/07, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Like many others, I enjoy processing digital photos. In the old days I > played in the darkroom, now I like to think that my computer, plus > software, is my digital darkroom. So, what do I want to do? I want to be > able to selectively crop whilst m

[ubuntu-uk] numbering gone erratic

2007-02-06 Thread London School of Puppetry
Can anyone help? I am in Ubuntu 6.10. The numbering function has gone erratic producing numbers of different sizes and defaulting back to Times New Roman- but not for all the numbers in the list- very odd. I am trying to produce a document in Arial. Caroline (lsp) -- --- London School of Puppet

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Tue, Feb 06, 2007 at 12:46:03PM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > We use all the facilities in iphoto. I've had a good look at f-spot and, > >although very friendly, it falls far short of iphoto. Can I use KDE > >derived > >digikam if I am in ubuntu which I see from this site is Gnome based ? >

[ubuntu-uk] gimp

2007-02-06 Thread norman
Like many others, I enjoy processing digital photos. In the old days I played in the darkroom, now I like to think that my computer, plus software, is my digital darkroom. So, what do I want to do? I want to be able to selectively crop whilst maintaining a fixed aspect, usually 7 x 5 because I pri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robin Menneer wrote: > We use all the facilities in iphoto. I've had a good look at f-spot > and, although very friendly, it falls far short of iphoto. Can I > use KDE derived digikam if I am in ubuntu which I see from this site > is Gnome based ? Y

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Robin Menneer
On 2/6/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:09:42PM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > On 2/5/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:44:02AM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > >> Useless to me, a beginner. Concepts are too advanced and g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] stop frame animation

2007-02-06 Thread Paul Sladen
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, London School of Puppetry wrote: > On 06/02/07, Stephen Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > Is there an OS programme that can be used to animate still images > > I've just been playing with "add/remove..." in the applications menu, > > an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] stop frame animation

2007-02-06 Thread David Morley
On 06/02/07, London School of Puppetry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 06/02/07, Stephen Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > > Is there an OS programme that can be used to animate still images- > > > something similar to Flash? - I have been asked by a local s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] stop frame animation

2007-02-06 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 06/02/07, Stephen Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > Is there an OS programme that can be used to animate still images- > > something similar to Flash? - I have been asked by a local secondary > > school. They have one computer with Linux installed. Caroli

Re: [ubuntu-uk] stop frame animation

2007-02-06 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 06/02/07, Stephen Garton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > London School of Puppetry wrote: > > Is there an OS programme that can be used to animate still images- > > something similar to Flash? - I have been asked by a local secondary > > school. They have one computer with Linux installed. Caroli

Re: [ubuntu-uk] IT Idiots cover introducing Linux.

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 12:09:42PM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > On 2/5/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2007 at 10:44:02AM +, Robin Menneer wrote: > >> Useless to me, a beginner. Concepts are too advanced and gappy in > >> presentation. Nevertheless a well-int

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Could Linux (and Ubuntu) do more to encourage students?

2007-02-06 Thread Daniel Watkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andrew Price wrote: > I know of at least one module in my computer science course that is > being taught specifically with Microsoft tools. "Building Reliable Web > Applications" I think it's called. Makes me wonder if MS are paying the > Comp Sci depa

[ubuntu-uk] Screencast Team Meeting 12/[EMAIL PROTECTED]

2007-02-06 Thread Alan Pope
Hi I have booked the #ubuntu-meeting irc channel for a meeting of the Screencast Team (and any other interested parties) for this coming Monday, 12th Feb, at 20:00-22:00 UTC/GMT. Depending on the (as yet not finalised) agenda it may not actually take that long. Once agreed, the agenda will be pos