Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-12-26 Thread Sandy Martin
How about this. Like Ubuntu 11.10 when you login you have the option for "TV" mode or "Unity"Mode when you login thus giving full control to the advanced users and creating a secure area for not technical people. The "TV" are , As I see it in my mind being similar to XBMC where the users can custom

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-30 Thread Ian Santopietro
I can agree there. Having a Desktop (or "desktop mode") by default would not be good, but I see no reason why you wouldn't be able to install it (one way or another). On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 10:03, Ian Nicholson wrote: > Bottom line, we have a way to provide a default list of apps while still > a

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-30 Thread Ian Nicholson
Bottom line, we have a way to provide a default list of apps while still allowing advanced users the ability to customize their system as they wish. Is that a satisfactory solution for everyone? Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 29, 2011 22:11, Thomas Mashos wrote: That's not

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Thomas Mashos
That's not 100% accurate. You still would have multiple packages (one for desktop, one for ubuntutv), otherwise you are making every user download more than they need and everything gets bloated. You could have a single code base as well, as a single source package can create multiple binary packag

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
That's the big one, but it also takes a lot of load off of the servers, since you only need one copy of the package. On Nov 29, 2011 9:04 PM, "Ian Nicholson" wrote: > ** > On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software > ce

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Nicholson
On 11/29/2011 10:01 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software > center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of > games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would > allow for an App to have two int

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
We could use a custom flag in DEBIAN/control or something in software center to mark Apps as TV friendly. This would cover the majority of games, plus any apps with an interface specifically for TV. This would allow for an App to have two interfaces (this is defined in Gnome 3), without requiring s

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Nicholson
On 11/29/2011 08:50 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? > > I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that > haven't been optimized for TVs. > > On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
> Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? I mean having a full desktop environment, and access to apps that haven't been optimized for TVs. On Nov 29, 2011 5:36 PM, "Ian Nicholson" wrote: > > Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? > > > > >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Nicholson
Other Ian - What do you mean when you say "desktop functionality"? Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 29, 2011 18:09, Ian Santopietro wrote: What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I said they'd function differently from each other, since most users wil

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
What happened to Ubuntu One? I never said they'd be independent, I said they'd function differently from each other, since most users will use a TV for different things from what they use their computer for. But everything would be linked to their Ubuntu One Cloud. Nothing would necessarily be inde

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
I give up. Creating independent Ubuntu appliances makes no sense to me. I won't buy something like that just because it has an Ubuntu sticker on it. It's either a part of my personal network, or it's not. If it's not, then I'd rather purchase one from Samsung or LG or something. Single user, o

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
> How is that? Ubuntu Desktop doesn't provide a very good TV experience by> > default. If I want to send an email while watching TV, why should I have to> > replace the operating system in order to do so? I don't think TVs are the best devices to send email from. I already have a computer that i

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 17:17, skrev Ian Santopietro: I think that your goals would best be filled by installing Ubuntu Desktop. It's already suited to your needs and wants for a Smart TV. How is that? Ubuntu Desktop doesn't provide a very good TV experience by default. If I want to send an email whi

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
I think that your goals would best be filled by installing Ubuntu Desktop. It's already suited to your needs and wants for a Smart TV. In general though, I don't think we need to make Ubuntu TV into Ubuntu Desktop, largely because we don't need to make TVs behave like computers. We already have co

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Please try to make it a little easier to read. I had difficulty finding your reply at all. Den 29. nov. 2011 10:03, skrev Ian Santopietro: Why? What benefits does this offer? If you want Ubuntu Desktop, why not just install Ubuntu Desktop? Ubuntu TV will be Ubuntu Desktop with a different

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
On Nov 29, 2011 1:57 AM, "Jo-Erlend Schinstad" wrote: > > Den 29. nov. 2011 09:48, skrev Ian Santopietro: > >> >> I think the ability to use a full hardware keyboard to search is a great idea. However, we shouldn't limit Ubuntu TV to require a physical keyboard, thus it should be an extra. It woul

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 09:48, skrev Ian Santopietro: I think the ability to use a full hardware keyboard to search is a great idea. However, we shouldn't limit Ubuntu TV to require a physical keyboard, thus it should be an extra. It would be better to focus on the *optimal* experience, which shoul

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Ian Santopietro
I haven't said those things would be a bad idea. The only thing that I've ever, in the course of this mailing list, objected to was shipping a full desktop on the OS, which would add bloat to the installation. Apart from that, I have stated *specifically* that you should *not* be limited to TV and

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-29 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 03:19, skrev Ian Santopietro: . If you agree with all this, then you have to agree that the normal desktop Unity should be provided. No, I don't agree. Unity, yes. Full desktop Unity? No. Honestly, I don't see the point of discussing this. With what you're suggesting, Ubun

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread David Jordan
UbuntuTV should absolutely be as simple to use for watching video, listening to music, etc. as any TV or mobile device today. It should be simple to use, and the interface should be out of the way and work with a remote control. However, I think there is a lot of power and value added by allowing

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
. If you agree with all this, then you have to agree that the normal desktop Unity should be provided. No, I don't agree. Unity, yes. Full desktop Unity? No. Honestly, I don't see the point of discussing this. With what you're suggesting, Ubuntu is already set up to run fine on a TV. This is, qui

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we need >> to make sure we don't over-complicate things for the end-user. > > Great, then we agree. My point is based

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Nicholson
Additionally, that's a great argument for unity as well. Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 28, 2011 20:03, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: > While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we > need to make

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we need to make sure we don't over-complicate things for the end-user. Great, then we agree. My point is based on the fact that we have to provide the desktop in any case. I mean,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:46, skrev Ian Santopietro: >> >> But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a >> desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why >> bother with the TV mode at all? Instead,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 01:46, skrev Ian Santopietro: But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why bother with the TV mode at all? Instead, it sounds like your setup would work best with a full blown Ubuntu deskto

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why bother with the TV mode at all? Instead, it sounds like your setup would work best with a full blown Ubuntu desktop installation, rather than a customized Ubuntu TV

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:30, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> Someone has to build the option to switch to desktop mode ;) > > Well... Yes, that is true. That will be far easier than to build Ubuntu > Desktop as a plugin, though. :) > > Jo-Erlend

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 01:30, skrev Thomas Mashos: Someone has to build the option to switch to desktop mode ;) Well... Yes, that is true. That will be far easier than to build Ubuntu Desktop as a plugin, though. :) Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv Post to

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:15, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> Simple, because I have to build it. Working on the Mythbuntu team for the >> last four years has shown that there are far more dreamers than there are >> programmers. I'm not spending

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 01:15, skrev Thomas Mashos: Simple, because I have to build it. Working on the Mythbuntu team for the last four years has shown that there are far more dreamers than there are programmers. I'm not spending my time on something I don't think is necessary. This is why I proposed

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 01:10, skrev Ian Santopietro: I never said it should only be used for viewing videos. But, TVs are consumption devices, and should be treated as such. Think of it as a large tablet. Tablets are great devices for watching videos, surfing the internet, reading email, IM, and game

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Ian Nicholson wrote: > On 11/28/2011 04:54 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> To the point of "Family of products working together". Please don't make >> added functionality come from owning other Ubuntu branded devices. Make an >> Android app, IOS app, Windows app, OS

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 23:54, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenOffice type apps on the big >> screen. Why do I want to look at a screen that is much farther away >> from me to see the data (which BTW you

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
I never said it should only be used for viewing videos. But, TVs are consumption devices, and should be treated as such. Think of it as a large tablet. Tablets are great devices for watching videos, surfing the internet, reading email, IM, and games. They also work great for photo galleries, and l

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Nicholson
On 11/28/2011 04:54 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: To the point of "Family of products working together". Please don't make added functionality come from owning other Ubuntu branded devices. Make an Android app, IOS app, Windows app, OSX app, etc. If I wanted to have vendor lock in I would own Apple

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 00:44, skrev Callum Saunders: its not a computer with a big screen it's a TV!! Oh, ok. I thought it was intended to be used om OMAP4s and similar. They're perfectly capable of providing a complete PC experience. I actually used my OMAP3 like that for a little while and that'

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
its not a computer with a big screen it's a TV!! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 00:29, skrev Ian Santopietro: > > There shouldn't be more than one interface. Having two interfaces is >> inconsistent and confusing.

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 00:29, skrev Ian Santopietro: There shouldn't be more than one interface. Having two interfaces is inconsistent and confusing. I will never purchase a computer with a big screen which cannot be used for anything other than watching videos. Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- Mailing li

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:17, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 00:15, skrev Callum Saunders: >> >> Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a >> major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes >> anyway. It also means that all ubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 00:23, skrev Callum Saunders: Bluetooth is slow as hell. Using Bluetooth would mean that a tablet or phone or laptop or whatever would have to have both bluetooth and wifi on, assuming they even have bluetooth capabilities. No, I'm talking about using the phone as a simple re

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
Bluetooth is slow as hell. Using Bluetooth would mean that a tablet or phone or laptop or whatever would have to have both bluetooth and wifi on, assuming they even have bluetooth capabilities. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > Den 29.

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 23:54, skrev Thomas Mashos: I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenOffice type apps on the big screen. Why do I want to look at a screen that is much farther away from me to see the data (which BTW you will need to blow up the font size to see it) when I can see the same da

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 29. nov. 2011 00:15, skrev Callum Saunders: Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes anyway. It also means that all ubuntu devices in a home can be connected all the time as long as they are

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes anyway. It also means that all ubuntu devices in a home can be connected all the time as long as they are on the wifi. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Jo-

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 22:55, skrev Thomas Mashos: Please walk me through a typical day in the live of this TV for a family of 4. Alright. 6AM. Parents get out of bed, do their morning stuff, makes coffee and switches on their TV to watch the morning news. Only the normal remote control is neede

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > On 28/11/11 20:55, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? > > Absolutely! A TV is used and viewed very differently from a desktop: you are > further away from the screen, it uses a simpli

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > They wouldn't, necessarily, but some apps will be better after being > reworked for a larger screen. LibreOffice is a great example. > Facilities currently exist in GTK3 to implement different UIs for the > same app through XML. > > On the

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Bruno Girin
On 28/11/11 20:55, Ian Santopietro wrote: What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Absolutely! A TV is used and viewed very differently from a desktop: you are further away from the screen, it uses a simplistic interface (remote), no keyboard or mouse, no touch. It

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
They wouldn't, necessarily, but some apps will be better after being reworked for a larger screen. LibreOffice is a great example. Facilities currently exist in GTK3 to implement different UIs for the same app through XML. On the other hand, most of the games currently available would work fine on

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 22:57, skrev Ian Santopietro: I'm not going to argue with that; using a TV for more than video is in idea I already enjoy, and one that I would expect from a complete Ubuntu TV implementation. However, having two modes (One for TV and one fr a full desktop) is a bad idea. Instea

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 22:50, skrev Chris: Now we're talking. And when it's paired to such a device (e.g. a netbook) then you might use it as a desktop enlarger. But please make some storyboards, that way we have comparisons and makes it easier to collaborate the different ideas into 1. It's ready

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
I'm not going to argue with that; using a TV for more than video is in idea I already enjoy, and one that I would expect from a complete Ubuntu TV implementation. However, having two modes (One for TV and one fr a full desktop) is a bad idea. Instead, how about taking a hint from other Smart TV OSs

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
Exactly. A family of products that work great on their own and even better together. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Ian Nicholson wrote: > On 11/28/2011 03:33 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > >> Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 22:48, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> I could see the big screen as an extension of the netbook, but that >> sounds like something solved via a plugin. As for the multiple user >> scenario, I think while it's a neat idea,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Nicholson
On 11/28/2011 03:33 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders wrote: How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: On Mon, Nov 28,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 22:48, skrev Thomas Mashos: I could see the big screen as an extension of the netbook, but that sounds like something solved via a plugin. As for the multiple user scenario, I think while it's a neat idea, it's a fringe use case. Synergy is a very simple and easy app. It's re

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Chris
Now we're talking. And when it's paired to such a device (e.g. a netbook) then you might use it as a desktop enlarger. But please make some storyboards, that way we have comparisons and makes it easier to collaborate the different ideas into 1. For how to make those storyboard, read here: https://

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 22:41, skrev Ian Santopietro: There are more reasons why I want to have different users. For instance, you> should be able to pause whatever it is you're playing, go away, let others> use the TV, and when you come back, you just press play. That is a good point, but there a

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 21:55, skrev Ian Santopietro: >> >> What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't >> worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and >> content-wise), and allow access t

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
> There are more reasons why I want to have different users. For instance, you> > should be able to pause whatever it is you're playing, go away, let others> > use the TV, and when you come back, you just press play. That is a good point, but there are better ways of managing content other than l

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders wrote: > How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders >> wr

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Callum Saunders wrote: > How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders >> wrote: >> > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. >> > >>

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Jo-Erlend Schinstad
Den 28. nov. 2011 21:55, skrev Ian Santopietro: What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and content-wise), and allow access to content below a certain maturity Level. There are more reasons why

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders > wrote: > > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: > >> > >> How about

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Thomas Mashos
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders wrote: > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: >> >> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated >> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to w

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Ian Santopietro
What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and content-wise), and allow access to content below a certain maturity Level. Then, when the user tries to access restricted content (like an R-rated movie

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: > How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated > movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded > movies accessible for all ages or other content. >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Chris
How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded movies accessible for all ages or other content. Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system for young kids. With metta, Chri

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

2011-11-28 Thread Callum Saunders
Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the purpose of TV, it would complicate the whole experience. Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as it slows down getting to content (I