Exactly. A family of products that work great on their own and even better together.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Ian Nicholson <i...@binaryash.net> wrote: > On 11/28/2011 03:33 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > >> Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders<dancem...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? >>> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos<tho...@mashos.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders<dancem...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris<cyber.dr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like >>>>>> x-rated >>>>>> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded >>>>>> movies accessible for all ages or other content. >>>>>> Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the >>>>>> system >>>>>> for young kids. >>>>>> With metta, Chris >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:37, Callum Saunders<dancem...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the >>>>>>> purpose >>>>>>> of TV, it would complicate the whole experience. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with >>>>>>> Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> slows down getting to content (Imagine realising you're about to miss >>>>>>> Doctor >>>>>>> Who and having to login into your TV? >>>>>>> I'd prefer if it just booted into default mode, straight into >>>>>>> channels >>>>>>> and then people can log in if they want their stuff. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad >>>>>>> <joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) The TV is also a Big Screen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I >>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another >>>>>>>> for an >>>>>>>> extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice if the "show desktop" >>>>>>>> feature >>>>>>>> was used for this. When you show the desktop, then your normal Unity >>>>>>>> becomes >>>>>>>> visible with the desktop Unity, etc. Hit the button again, and the >>>>>>>> screen >>>>>>>> fades back into TV mode. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) User management. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ubuntu TV should support multiple users, for multiple reasons. One >>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>> reason is permissions. Parents should be able to choose which sites >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> channels their kids are allowed to watch and when. Kids of different >>>>>>>> ages >>>>>>>> should be able to watch different things. Some wives might want to >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> their husbands as well. ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Another thing is obviously favorite channels, bookmarks (which we >>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>> to come up with a better name for), personal applications and >>>>>>>> settings. You >>>>>>>> would also configure your personal devices, which would be >>>>>>>> recognized >>>>>>>> automatically. (I'll get back to that) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When you "start" the TV, you should be presented with a login screen >>>>>>>> which should be remote controllable using a standard remote (and >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> things). The default option would be to log in as Guest (perhaps >>>>>>>> Viewer, or >>>>>>>> something like that would be better). This account would have >>>>>>>> restricted >>>>>>>> access. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2) Controlling Ubuntu TV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> When you start the TV, you choose a user using a normal remote >>>>>>>> control >>>>>>>> or your phone using bluetooth. You would then be able to choose >>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>> devices to use. For instance, I would bring my netbook and phone and >>>>>>>> sit >>>>>>>> down on my couch. I then pick up the remote control on the table (or >>>>>>>> start >>>>>>>> an app on my phone) and press the on-button. That displays a welcome >>>>>>>> screen: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Guest >>>>>>>> 2) Jo-Erlend >>>>>>>> 3) Ima Nother >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I press 2 to choose "Jo-Erlend" and then I'm displayed with a >>>>>>>> second >>>>>>>> screen: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1) Enter your PIN using the remote control. >>>>>>>> 2) Activate joe-netbook and joe-phone >>>>>>>> 3) Only use joe-netbook >>>>>>>> 4) Only use joe-phone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is where it gets interesting. I can log in using the remote >>>>>>>> control, entering a PIN number I've chosen. This only provides >>>>>>>> access >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> watch TV and not other parts of the system, since a PIN doesn't >>>>>>>> provide much >>>>>>>> security, but sufficient to watch TV. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> However, that's boring. Instead, I choose to activate my netbook and >>>>>>>> phone. These are discovered on the WLAN. If I activate my phone, >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> remote control app is run on the phone which is then used as an >>>>>>>> input >>>>>>>> device >>>>>>>> and I can login using an onscreen keyboard. I can then use my real >>>>>>>> password, >>>>>>>> providing full access to my user account on the big screen. I would >>>>>>>> use my >>>>>>>> phone as a dynamic, touchbased remote control, with play controls >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> lenses >>>>>>>> to easily access content, but also get webfeed updates on it -- from >>>>>>>> the TV >>>>>>>> system, etc. I should be able to switch to desktop mode, and then >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> phone >>>>>>>> can be used as a mouse and an onboard keyboard. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Activating my netbook means the TV connects to it, and I can then >>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>> laptops keyboard and touchpad as input units for the TV, providing >>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>> with a >>>>>>>> very big screen to do any kind of work, like a big spreadsheet or >>>>>>>> anything. >>>>>>>> This solution is already readily available in Synergy, which is >>>>>>>> available >>>>>>>> for OS X, Windows, GNU/Linux, meaning that any laptop can easily be >>>>>>>> used for >>>>>>>> this as long as Synergy is running on it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It would be nice if you could use tablets for this as well, at least >>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>> a mouse and keyboard for the TV, but the TV should also be able to >>>>>>>> display >>>>>>>> things on the tablet in that case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What do you think? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jo-Erlend Schinstad >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Mailing list: >>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>>> Unsubscribe : >>>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>>>>> More help : >>>>>>>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Mailing list: >>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>>>> Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.launchpad.net >>>>>>> Unsubscribe : >>>>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>>>> More help : >>>>>>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Mailing list: >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>> Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.launchpad.net >>>>> Unsubscribe : >>>>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>>>> More help : >>>>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ugh. Can we get rid of the idea of logging into your TV? As we >>>> discussed at UDS, nobody wants to login to the TV. It takes too long >>>> and difficult to do on a remote. For age appropriate content, I say we >>>> stick with the PIN idea. This should be an appliance, not a full >>>> desktop replacement. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Thomas Mashos >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Mailing list: >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>> Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.launchpad.net >>> Unsubscribe : >>> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> >>> More help : >>> https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >>> >>> >>> >> >> This sounds like a really good way to do it, although it would be good > to also allow someone to use U1 without having to have a paired device. > That way they'd be more likely to say "Oh man this awesome UbuntuTV rocks > and U1 makes it even better, but if I get an UbuntuPhone to go along with > it, it will be the best!" > > > -- > Mailing list: > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> > Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-**tv<https://launchpad.net/%7Eubuntu-tv> > More help : > https://help.launchpad.net/**ListHelp<https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp> >
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