Re: [Ubuntu-phone] GPS - Navigation app

OpenStreetMap. Look at OSMAnd. A quality nav program for android that uses OSM. it's better than Apple maps, at least, haha On Jul 17, 2013 7:30 AM, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: > Well, you could do some lobbying to get that as a core app, but you will > need a good plan, and it will probably not be unti

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Fwd: GPS - Navigation app

in the coming weeks, > that if I dont finally get to working on the music app. > > Osm seems to be surprisingly up to date on my home town in eastern europe > as well as my small suburb in northern england... It even has a lot of > things that have not been updated in google maps in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

I'm still waiting on the actual native email client to be written. Once that happens, adding encryption should be relatively trivial. So, whenever that happens. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Mike Bybee wrote: > Are there currently any plans to make sure the ubuntu mail app will > support gpg

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

t;> 2013/7/17 Mike Bybee >> >>> Thanks. I think with PRISM and it's various world-wide equivalents, >>> we're all thinking about this. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >>> >>>&

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

an link up to 4 SMSes. > However an XMPP based service would still be better as key exchange may > happen automagically. You have > already broken the standard so why continue to use it when you only gets > its limitations? > > > 2013/7/17 Josh Leverette > >> Also, I d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

y for example if an operator give 200/month is a great deal. >> I think that the XMPP approach is more useful, because (almost) free >> 3G/4G data access is more reliable and easy to use. >> Il giorno 17/lug/2013 20:57, "Josh Leverette" ha >> scritto: >> >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

. > > THREE > OR design an encryption proxy which will work on all unified messages, why > not ? the whole trend is towards unified messaging, nothing stopping you > from SMS encryption by that means. > > > On 18 Jul, 2013, at 6:14 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > &qu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

I agree. A pluggable architecture (like Android's Intents) would be better than hard coding. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 18, 2013 12:09 PM, "Rasmus Eneman" wrote: I really like a MIME type only approach for this because that makes apps pluggable. If you for example have an app called barcode scanner

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

asymmetric encryption of some kind would probably be preferred. Possibly using quantum computer proof asymmetric encryption. (look at Wikipedia, I'm on my phone at the moment, or I would provide a link.) As far as email goes, that is notably more complex than SMS to handle. The question becomes "d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

secure?" > Not by default I would say no. But we should have that as an option to > automatically restore > your key when you change device and to sync it to your desktop. > > > 2013/7/18 Josh Leverette > >> asymmetric encryption of some kind would probably be prefer

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Applications spawning other Applications

What about contractor ? On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > I just realized that you can use the URL concept for MIME types to: > mime://image/png&file://path/to/file.png or something like that > would work well. > > >Sure and in the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS communications. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 1:54 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 20:26 +0200, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > > >If you're going to handle key creation and exchange invisibly, what > > use is GPG? > > Because we would w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [feature request/question] Encrypted email/sms support?

uld not be available at all. In a number of countries, SMS is much cheaper than data, also. On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > On Thu, 2013-07-18 at 13:56 -0500, Josh Leverette wrote: > > The phone number approach was being used to authenticate SMS > > communication

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

The spec looks very promising. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: > Hey there, > > you might be interested in: > > * > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/client-1303-add-app-model-and-lifecycle-to-platform-api > * and the corresponding spec in: > > https://docs.go

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

to throttle something actually means to slow it down, just for future reference. But, yes. A less rigorously enforced policy that mimics what Apple does with background apps is something I would approve of. If an application asks permission to run in the background, then that's fine, but I don't w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Power management policy

uly 19, 2013, Mike Bybee wrote: > >> On 07/19/2013 09:04 AM, Thomas Voß wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 5:51 PM, Mike Bybee >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On 07/19/2013 08:45 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >>>> &g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

A 20" screen definitely qualifies for desktop mode. I don't think it would be running tablet style at that point. On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Omar B. wrote: > >The tablet interface have the side view and personally I think that is > good. Anything more wouldn't be good. > > Well that most

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

What the difference? We really don't know what unity 8 for the desktop looks like. But, based on logical induction, the only significant difference is that you can move things around and resize them as windows in one, and they're all fullscreen in the other. You can still run the same apps in deskt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

What is the difference? We really don't know what unity 8 for the desktop looks like. But, based on logical induction, the only significant difference is that you can move things around and resize them as windows in one, and they're all fullscreen in the other. You can still run the same apps in de

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

I still don't understand. Why do you want to go into tablet mode, since that only means everything is fullscreen, as far as we know. You can still maximize things and then they're essentially fullscreen, if that's what you want, but realistically.. why would you on a large screen? Sincerely, Josh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

navigate if it looks good > that would be a bonus. > To do this we have to say, "this feature should be in because it's needed > and works". Not just > "this feature looks cool, lets add it". > > Could someone write some good use cases for a multi window/mor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

of changing stuff, probably to the worse. Before you go in > and totally change how one interface would work you need to have a > very clear plan of what you are doing and why you are doing that. > The latter part of that is why use cases would need to be written. > > > 2013/7

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

op interface you should > use the desktop interface, you shouldn't make the tablet interface > become the desktop interface. You can run the touch apps in the > desktop interface aswell. > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> Interacting with it as a tablet does not lim

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

#x27;t really understand what you want to change? > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> I'm not talking about putting this on a 7" tablet. You haven't been >> listening to me. >> >> There are three form factors. >> -Desktop >> -Tablet >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

and thinks > that we both wanted the same thing all the time. > > > 2013/7/21 Josh Leverette > >> Nothing. Omar asked a question about a corner case. I answered him, and >> then you started saying things that made no sense as a response to what I >> was saying. M

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

It does look pretty awesome... wish I could get one. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM, Sam Bull wrote: > Haven't seen it mentioned here yet, and someone else just pointed it out > to me. > > There's an Indiegogo campaign for a new phone from Canonical. It looks > amazing and there's a one-day pr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Pay $600, or $830, depending on when you buy it. I can't justify spending that much on a smartphone right now. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM, Andrea Pivetta wrote: > Il 22/07/2013 20:20, Josh Leverette ha scritto: > > It does look pretty awesome... wish I could get one. > &

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

make or break, but Steam on a Mobile would be awesome... > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> Pay $600, or $830, depending on when you buy it. I can't justify spending >> that much on a smartphone right now. >> >> >> On M

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

nding slows down, but for now, it's exciting to see the number ticking upwards. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sur

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

g wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >>> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sure. >>> >> >> Yes, it will be an ARM SoC. >> > > -- Sincerely, Josh -- Mailing lis

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >>> It's going to use ARM. That's not in question, I'm pretty sure. >>> >> >> Yes, it will be an ARM SoC. &

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

I don't understand your question. All Android and Ubuntu smartphones do multitasking. On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Joey Carlini wrote: > If it's a multicore, then multitasking is built in, right? > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Josh Leverette wrote: > >&g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

yed down specifically because >>> they need the money first >>> >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Joey Carlini wrote: >>> >>>> Misunderstood Andrew's email, that's his signature... *facepalm* >>>> >>>> >>>> O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

ahhh. Or forever hold your peace (and browse eBay.) first I sent it only to him, then I missed a line when sending it to the full list... blah. Sincerely, Josh On Jul 22, 2013 7:05 PM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > it will not be 64 bit. No such ARM chips are even available yet. Proba

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

> >>> and have the 600$. It's only 20$ from me today... > >>> > >>> I'm pretty sure not all the details are layed down specifically because > >>> they need the money first > >>> > >>> On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Joey

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

te: > > How can you get burned? You donate $600, the campaign makes it to $32M, > you get an Ubuntu Edge, if not, you're not out a dime. > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM, Mike Bybee wrote: > >> On 07/22/2013 12:05 PM, Sam Bull wrote: >> >> On Mon, 20

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] [development] Some thoughts about Ubuntu touch on the Nexus 10

? >> >> The proper place to file these complaints is the bug tracker.. if you >> want to help get them squashed that is. >> >> >> On 11/07/2013 22:56, Josh Leverette wrote: >> >> I've been trying for days to find time to write these bug report

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

yeah. I agree. There will be plenty of mid and low end Ubuntu phones eventually. This is not one of those. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Simon wrote: > This campain isn't (mainly) about selling Ubuntu Touch. It is to tell > manufacturers: "Hey there is a demand for Smartphones with power bey

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo yesterday. There might have been one or two, but that's simply not what happened. This whole campaign is all about individuals buying these phones. I don't want to see this campaign fail anymore than you do. People will either buy them at $830

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

l months after the fund ends. > Requesting 1 or 2 thousand CDMA should be that hard. Or since this is > flagged as a "Open Device ” why not pioneer the first LTE capable Combo > phone? CDMA+GSM. Only using the one you need. So later if you wish you can > jump to any carrier you can im

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Say less than 80 > a month for data. > > I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd > replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can > make a case for the Edge no big deal. > > > Josh Leverette wrote: >> >> Hmm.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the indiegogo deal. I'm just saying the companies with the money to buy from this fundraiser wouldn't be able to move fast enough to have gotten in on the 1st day of sales. Companies move slowly for the most part, and I was watching the sales figures car

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

price. Say less than >> 80 a month for data. >> >> I have barely made it out of contract with this Motor Droid 2 (3rd >> replacement) , hence why I and searching hard for a solid device. I can >> make a case for the Edge no big deal. >> >> >> Josh

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

are very smooth. If a company bought 100 units all at once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would be $60,000 in pledges all at once, which would break the monotony of the graph. [image: Inline image 1] On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

which would break the monotony of the > graph. > > [image: Inline image 1] > > > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > I'm not saying companies *couldn't* buy from the indiegogo deal. I'm just > saying the companies with the money to

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

aniel Clem wrote: > If that trend holds there will be a total of almost 80,000,000. Obviously > it will have ups and downs, but even half that average would reach the > goal. Will re-investigate GSM's signal strength in my area, as well as data > plans. > > > Josh Leverett

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

option >>>> ran out. Calculating the trend line for the second half of the graph >>>> indicates that the campaign will raise about $20,000,000 total over the >>>> full period of the campaign, which is not enough. I believe that this is >>>> the reason C

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Yes, they're all the same. The $625 and $675 ones are only available in a limited quantity. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:36 AM, Jean-Marc Gailis wrote: > I want to know if the Edge at 625 $ or 675 $ the same that at 830 $?? > Can Canonical answer to my question? > > Jean-Marc Gailis > Janis-Marks

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

PayPal lets you pay using a credit card? generally, PayPal lets you make one time payments without an account, as well, but this might be a little different as it is crowdfunding. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Luke Bryan wrote: > Definitely something I'd like to support... but why does this

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Ok guys, so, the new, lower, and rather ephemeral price points have had a very positive impact. Here's the newest funds-raised graph, as of a couple of minutes ago. [image: Inline image 1] On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > PayPal lets you pay using a cre

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

back when the $600 model was on sale. The respectable slope on the right is the result of the new, lower priced options that became available today. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > Ok guys, so, the new, lower, and rather ephemeral price points have had a > very po

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone Nexus 7 2

Is the galaxy nexus or the Nexus 4 the primary phone development device? I think it will be similar with the two versions of the Nexus 7, which is to say they're both well supported. To be honest though, the current Nexus 7 has been the least well supported device, because of Tegra 3 and just the g

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

ARM. that was answered earlier in this thread. On Jul 25, 2013 12:24 AM, "Omar B." wrote: > So, ARM or Intel ? > > http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/6/4306956/intel-silvermont-atom- > > > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone > Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Unsu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

o, >>> which might boost sales by a little bit more. Hopefully this clarifies my >>> point. There lines are very smooth. If a company bought 100 units all at >>> once, there would be a visible blip on the graph, in my opinion. That would >>> be $60,000 in pledg

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

1) Read at least the first 3 or 4 posts here: http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1j166z/hi_im_mark_shuttleworth_founder_of_ubuntu/cba28et 2) It might require a little work, but yes. it should be possible to disable lenses, but I doubt that functionality will be built-in in the initial release (

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

WiFi calling can already be done on all existing smartphones (Ubuntu phone not yet included) by 3rd party applications. What you suggest *cannot* be integrated with your carrier unless they choose to build that functionality into the phone as an app. Look into Line2, Skype, Viber, and similar appli

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

And that configurability will inevitably reach Ubuntu phone, but I don't know if it will make it into the v1.0 release. Here's the related document: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Phone On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 8:19 AM, Greg W wrote: > Sure, I understand everyone is tracked.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

This is not a simple request, and there is a lot of political reasoning that would rather WiFi calling not be possible for the average user. We don't have access to the internal pieces of their network required for any of us to implement this technology and put them at a disadvantage. T-Mobile alre

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Full-disk Encryption on Touch?

android lens? On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Dienstag, den 30.07.2013, 08:32 -0500 schrieb Jamie Strandboge: > > On 07/30/2013 08:21 AM, Josh Leverette wrote: > > > And that configurability will inevitably reach Ubuntu phone, but I >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] WiFi Calling - most wanted mobile-phone feature

W asks. This is already included in many > phones, probably yours to. > > > 2013/7/30 Josh Leverette > >> This is not a simple request, and there is a lot of political reasoning >> that would rather WiFi calling not be possible for the average user. We >> don'

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

m >>>>> >>>>>> Farewell to 3G is more than welcome. Glad Ubuntu edge will be a 4G >>>>>> phone! >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel Clem 이 씀: >>>>>> >>>>>>> No Problem, I bout fell over when

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Moto X Porting

We don't actually know if it will be unlocked. Traditionally, Motorola phones have been very tightly locked. If it is unlocked, someone will surely create a port for it. Canonical is only officially supporting Nexus 4, Nexus 7, and Nexus 10, insofar as I'm aware, but they created a tutorial to help

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Moto X Porting

The Motorola Droid Mini will be an excellent piece of hardware when it becomes available for purchase, and is about the size of an iPhone and manages to cram a bigger screen into that same size body. Whether it is locked or unlocked will determine how easy it is to run Ubuntu touch on it. The HTC O

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (constructive criticism/advice on Canonical's approach)

No, you missed the point entirely. This is a "halo device." Whether it sells a single one is entirely irrelevant. Its purpose is not to sell in large quantities, and it isn't meant for people who are short on cash. This is a device meant for people who want the very best and have the money to get i

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

lower end device = more affordable = more buyers = larger volume = entering the hardware market On top of that, they'd then be offering two separate devices, with two separate manufacturing chains, with much greater costs on their end that they'd have to recoup. I want this project to succeed, be

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

Yes. Shuttleworth has even said that the *entire* purpose of this campaign is to judge if there's a market for *super high end* phones. Adding a mid range phone just to make this campaign succeed does not measure the market appeal of the superphones, and it doesn't make manufacturing those superpho

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Is Ubuntu Giving Up On Ubuntu Touch

Or, possibly, just possibly, the team is super busy finishing the product that will actually ship to customers, rather than spending time answering questions a dozen times over. That's my interpretation, at least. On Aug 12, 2013 6:51 AM, "Abimanyu G" wrote: > I have been waiting for Android and

[Ubuntu-phone] Call notification design

I recently watched this demo[0] of the new notification OSD, and I have some concerns about how not-prioritized a phone call is in the current design. This was the comment I left on the Google+ thread about this video. "I don't know... I feel like the incoming phone call needs to take over the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Call notification design

ng phone calls. I spend far more time using email, web, maps, and > SMS. > > I do of course hope that your concern about "difficult to quickly accept" > is unfounded, there are occasionally some calls that I really don't want to > miss, but I think that the notification

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Call notification design

I would agree with this as an excellent solution. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 7, 2013 2:14 PM, "Matthew Fischer" wrote: > Actually that's perfect. If we wake the phone for the call like we do in > powerd, then fullscreen would be great, otherwise, do the notification! > > > On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 9:3

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Call notification design

Perhaps we could make an API out of it? I'm sure 3rd party VOIP apps (like Skype and others) would appreciate being able to use the same call inbound user interface that automatically switches between lock screen and standard notification based on power state. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 7, 2013 4:07 P

[Ubuntu-phone] Card style multitasking

With our current multitasking system, swiping from the right switches to the previous application. This is good. When we swipe marginally from the left, it brings up the dock. Swiping all the way to the right returns us home (specifically, to the apps page). What if swiping marginally from the ri

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

I would like there to be such a gesture, I'm just not convinced there's an appropriate one since the left edge of the screen is occupied. My suggestion is we consider that swiping from left to right anywhere not on the screen edge could act as a back gesture in most applications. I caution strongl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

let's stick with pinch zooming our way back out if we absolutely must. I'd recommend just redesigning the title bar element to have a back button. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 12, 2013 6:12 AM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > I would like there to be such a gesture, I'm j

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

actually, at this point, I really don't know the solution. I think the Design team should give it some thought and get back to us afterwards. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 12, 2013 6:15 AM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > let's stick with pinch zooming our way back out if we absolutel

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

Ok, I've got a balanced solution. On Android, with Google Maps you can do something I have heard called "Pin to Zoom", wherein you double tap and then slide. After you begin to slide, it zooms just like you're pinching to zoom, but with one finger. We need a pin to exit gesture. Double tap anywher

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

eft title bar to > navigate back. It's small but visually clean, consistent and works. Yeah, > that's my preference. > > Till later, > Scott. > __ > Scott May. > sc...@smartdata.com.au > > Mobile 0417 195 018 >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

Simon, This would introduce design complexity by the way that the user may accidentally activate this gesture or fail to activate this gesture and have negative consequences. It needs to be something that does not interact with the current gestures, unless we're willing to drop an existing gesture

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

If the button is there, it may as well be visible. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 12, 2013 6:54 AM, wrote: > Why not just consider a small translucent floating button? > > All these gestures, pinch, shake etc will not cut it in active use and > especially on tablets. > > The button may stay hidden and b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

What's wrong with the Pin to Exit gesture? It will not be accidentally discovered by old people in all but the most unlikely scenarios, the toolbar already provides a back option for them, and power users would benefit from having a faster and perhaps more elegant way to go back. It's quick and doe

[Ubuntu-phone] Redesign the deep stack to be a horizontally scrolled region

Our recent discussion about a back gesture similar to iOS gave me an intriguing idea. What if each level of a deep stack simply added a page horizontally, and you could freely scroll between all levels of the deep stack as if it were just a wide webpage? - there would be no need for a back button

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

not appear to require any going back (at lease > from the gestures and flow design). > > > > On 12/06/2013 13:19, Josh Leverette wrote: > > What's wrong with the Pin to Exit gesture? It will not be accidentally > discovered by old people in all but the most unlikely scenari

[Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Redesign the deep stack to be a horizontally scrolled region

And, forgot to label the title. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 12, 2013 7:24 AM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > Our recent discussion about a back gesture similar to iOS gave me an > intriguing idea. What if each level of a deep stack simply added a page > horizontally, and you could fr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Redesign the deep stack to be a horizontally scrolled region

n and animation (multitasking via RtL swipe) > indicate that the left edge of the app/screen is it's boundary and nothing > exists beyond it. It's subtle, but it may affect the mental models people > build when animations show something different to their expectations. > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

This sounds reasonable to me. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 12, 2013 7:52 AM, "Sam Bull" wrote: > On Wed, 2013-06-12 at 13:37 +0100, Lou Greenwood wrote: > > See the following link for examples of the back button in the core OS. > > > > http://design.ubuntu.com/apps/building-blocks/page-stack > > I've

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

Just curious, but what part of the update made your opinion change? I think this issue is resolved for now though. On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 8:08 AM, Scott May wrote: > To be honest I've not updated my Nexus to a recent image (until just > now!) since we're approaching the "dog fooding" stage.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

I'm not left handed, but as gestures are coming equally from all sides of the display I don't think there is any special inconvenience for left handed people versus right handed people. A quick test shows I don't seem to have any trouble controlling the regions of the screen that Ubuntu touch uses,

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

implement it. On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Zisu Andrei wrote: > I think the launcher is going to be a bit difficult to reach with your > thumb. > > Zisu Andrei > > > On 13 June 2013 15:15, Josh Leverette wrote: > >> I'm not left handed, but as gestures

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

hone I can use any hand whithout problem >> On Jun 13, 2013 4:27 PM, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: >> >>> I think the launcher is going to be a bit difficult to reach with your >>> thumb. >>> >>> Zisu Andrei >>> >>> >>> On 13

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

:33, Rasmus Eneman wrote: >> >>> Personaly I think it's equally simple with both ands and I'm right >>> handed however for the phone I can use any hand whithout problem >>> On Jun 13, 2013 4:27 PM, "Zisu Andrei" wrote: >>> >>>> I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

My thoughts. Pros: - Would imply a level of customization rarely present in other mobile OSes - Could be used as a framework for allowing other forms of customization in the Settings app - Allows a person to use it how they feel is most comfortable - Probably good for community

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Left handed usage

e thumb needs to >> change angle twice to complete the swipe this is much easier in the >> right hand than the left. But not impossible just slightly more clunky. > > > Zisu Andrei > > > On 13 June 2013 16:14, Dave Morley wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESS

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

Long swipe up reveals the HUD, as far as I know. Sincerely, Josh On Jun 13, 2013 4:34 PM, "Daniel Clem" wrote: > Non-dev comment: > Revealing controls on scroll up would work if you want it to be same for > all apps, as not all apps scroll. Such as the FTP server app I use for my > Droid. Or vid

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

I'm not going to comment on everything in your post, but watch the first 20 seconds of this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dx2nMaBOHek Notice how the settings are not on a different level in the page stack? They're in a separate tab. The back button is not used here. This is how many of the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

ge that is still not the root, then > the toolbar stays open until the user interacts with content or backs > out enough to be on the root page. I'm not a massive fan of this > approach, but it is an alternative. > > I can get a demo of this up either today or tomorrow, dependi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

I agree, I didn't want to be the only one who keeps dissenting, so I waited, but the right edge swipe should not behave like Android's. Furthermore, it would be highly unintuitive for it to go back pages in the app and then suddenly switch to going to previous apps. Once it reaches the first most p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] manual for ubuntu touch/mobile?

This product isn't ready for customers, and there is no manual. You cannot delete items, and there are many known issues. For now, developing apps is about the only thing that can be done. In a few more months, these other items you have requested will surely be available, but this is a developer p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] opengl?

Hmm. If this is discouraged, then I would strongly encourage Canonical to provide an OpenGL game app example in the developer documentation... one showing "the right way" to do it. Having good games is the biggest obstacle to Ubuntu touch's adoption that Canonical has absolutely no direct control o

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] opengl?

those are QGLWidget based too): > http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtopengl/examples-widgets-opengl.html > > Anyways, if you know how to use QGLWidget, I'm sure you understand how I > mean > the discouraging or QWidget usage on mobile platforms. > > Br, > Michael >

[Ubuntu-phone] [design] Welcome screen suggestions

Ok, I'll be bluntly honest about this. I've lately begun to wonder if the Welcome screen at current is even worthwhile. From a pragmatic perspective, it provides only *useless information* to the user. Or, *Information which would never be acted on, under normal circumstances.* The number of tweets

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