Re: midisport-firmware; please replace Ubuntu package with package from Debian

2008-04-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 07 April 2008 14:36, Conrad Knauer wrote: > On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:22 AM, Forest Bond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please drop the Ubuntu [midisport-firmware] package and sync from Debian. > > and > > > I am not sure who this request should go to. > > That would be bugs.launchpad.net

Re: Developemnt and use - Training manual

2008-04-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 25 April 2008 10:15, Neal McBurnett wrote: > On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:53:24AM +0300, Billy Cina wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > The purpose of the license is to prevent the material being used for > > profit-seeking purposes. If you (or anyone else) is from a not-for-profit > > institution o

Re: Developemnt and use - Training manual

2008-05-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 05 May 2008 04:02, Billy Cina wrote: > George Farris wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-04-28 at 10:38 +0300, Billy Cina wrote: > >>> Right, so if we want to use the manual in our Community Education > >>> course to introduce and teach Ubuntu Linux while charging the student a > >>> fee for the cour

Re: Suggestion to make remote recovery easier

2008-05-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
Personally, I'd suggest leaving any neophyte user's computer exposed to the internet and not behind a firewall of some kind would be a mistake. Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman

Re: Suggestion to make remote recovery easier

2008-05-06 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 06 May 2008 23:56:18 +0100 Andrew Sayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >At this point, I'm trying to walk the line between unrealistic "wouldn't >it be great if..." type ideas and overly-strict reliance on solving the >specific problem I have in my head, so I'd like to go back to first >princ

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 7 May 2008 17:36:54 -0600 Neal McBurnett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, May 08, 2008 at 12:45:46AM +0200, Martin Pitt wrote: >> Peio Ziarsolo [2008-05-07 13:03 +0200]: >> > But for power user that know the significance of a bad certificate it's >> > annoniying add exceptions (this mor

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 20:34, HggdH wrote: > 100% with you. But it all has to start with education, not just forcing > a new feature down the user's throat. For most casual users, this > education is -- from my own experience with casual and theoretically > technical users -- not easy. And I do

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 07 May 2008 22:14, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Wed, 2008-05-07 at 22:05 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday 07 May 2008 20:34, HggdH wrote: > > > 100% with you. But it all has to start with education, not just forcing > > > a new feature down

Re: firefox and bad ssl certificates

2008-05-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 13 May 2008 19:32:23 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> No, they won't, and shouldn't. Why pay some idiot corporation an >> extortion fee just because they bribed the browser manufacturers to >> include their certs by default? There is NO added security to having a >> paid for cert.

Re: Problem with yum etc after installing Ubuntu 7.10.....

2008-05-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 15 May 2008 13:01:14 +0800 "Peter Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >a. install ubuntu >b. apt-get install yum* >c. apt-get install git > >Next I tried "git", I got "command not found", but reattempted to >"apt-get install git" will give me: > >[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmp# apt-get install git

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 15 May 2008 20:29:44 -0400 Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Which package would this be filed against? > I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for this/suggest changes to avoid problematic filenames, but there i

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 15 May 2008 21:31, Evan wrote: > On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 9:14 PM, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > I'd say that if there's a bug it's in Windows. I could see a wishlist > > bug against Ubuntu to provide a way to check for thi

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:36:54 +0200 Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >þÿOn Thu, 2008-05-15 at 21:14 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> but there is nothing inherently defective with the >> current behavior. > >I'd agree for any other fs, but the only reason

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 16 May 2008 06:53:35 +0200 Mario Vukelic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >þÿOn Fri, 2008-05-16 at 00:50 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> Doesn't wubi install Ubuntu into an existing Windows partition? > >Exactly. And then Ubuntu will happily let you create files that

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:03:02 +0100 "Alan Milnes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 16/05/2008, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Prohibiting feature X here because it's forbidden there isn't a good idea. > >It is in this case because of Ubuntu's target population and the fact >the NTFS

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 16 May 2008 11:42:28 +0200 Milan Bouchet-Valat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >Hope Ubuntu is more modest than you appear to see it. Serve the user, >not the ideal technology you dream of in which every character is >supported in filenames. When you're working on documents, being able to >

Re: Strip incompatible characters from Windows partitions!

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 16 May 2008 12:19, Mario Vukelic wrote: > On Fri, 2008-05-16 at 08:24 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > FAT is a defacto standard for portable storage devices. > > Not true anymore, the external disks I have seen that have > 300 GB came > with NTFS. Anyway, ex

Re: Ubuntu beyond GTK apps?

2008-05-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 17 May 2008 02:08:16 +0100 "Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2008/5/16 Krzysztof Klimonda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Fergal Daly wrote: >>> 2008/5/16 A. Walton : >>> It seems from the paragraph be

Fwd: Perl 5.10 transition: Done

2008-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
If there are Perl 5.10 problems you've been waiting for Debian's transition to help us out, you've gotten all the help you are going to get. Time to get to work. Scott K .. Forwarded Message ... From: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 18 May 20

Re: Ubuntu beyond GTK apps?

2008-05-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:15:23 +0100 "Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2008/5/16 Krzysztof Klimonda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >>> It seems from the paragraph below that there is a way - there just >>> needs to be a flame war to decide which o

Re: Ubuntu beyond GTK apps?

2008-05-18 Thread Scott Kitterman
> 2008/5/18 Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> On Sun, 18 May 2008 00:15:23 +0100 "Fergal Daly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>>Instead you can put something into /etc/skel so that all newly created >>>users get consistency and old-time

Re: Incomplete with no response >30 days

2008-05-25 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 25 May 2008 12:31:40 +0200 Milan Bouchet-Valat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Le dimanche 25 mai 2008 à 18:33 +1000, Sarah Hobbs a écrit : > >> There seems to be an attitude of "screw the developers, we are the >> mighty bug squad, and can do what we like" here. >The contrary can be true as

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:04:02 -0400 "Mark Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I just read this article: >http://boycottnovell.com/2008/06/07/ubuntu-remix-codecs/ > >I hope this is wrong or I will have to stop using ubuntu and find >another distro to use. Such a shame... > >Hope you are all proud of you

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:20:05 -0400 "Mark Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:04:02 -0400 "Mark Fink" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>>I just r

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 07 June 2008 21:18:09 Mark Fink wrote: > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Richard A. Johnson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 07 June 2008, Mark Fink wrote: > > [...] > > > > | Just like OpenSuSE != Novell, but no one in their right mind would > > | want to run that distro

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 07 June 2008 21:53:10 Mark Fink wrote: > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 9:29 PM, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Saturday 07 June 2008 21:18:09 Mark Fink wrote: > >> On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 8:03 PM, Richard A. Johnson > >> > >> <[E

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 07 June 2008 21:53:10 Mark Fink wrote: > just because I'm not a programmer doesn't mean my opinion isn't worth > as much or more than yours ... Forgot to respond to this point ... Actually it does, sort of. Not that you aren't a programmer. I'm not much of one myself. That you do

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 07 June 2008 22:05:39 Mark Fink wrote: top posting fixed - ugh. > On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Stefan Potyra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi, > > > > [..] > > > > please stop posting to ubuntu-devel-discuss. > > > > Thanks, > > Stefan. > Trying to censor me? > > I see how it

Re: MID Edition vs Netbook Remix

2008-06-24 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 18:43, Przemysław Kulczycki wrote: > Is the recently announced Ubuntu MID Edition the same as earlier > announced Ubuntu Netbook Remix? > Or is the Netbook Remix just based on MID Edition? > The MID Edition announcement doesn't mention it and it might create > confusion. As

Re: Need to upgrade apache2 and php5 for security reasons

2008-07-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 30 June 2008 10:52, Christian Desrochers wrote: > Hi all, > > Our web servers have been checked recently by an external security firm. We > have been told that our web servers need to be upgraded to the latest > version in order to fix some security issues. > > Security updates are applie

Re: Need to upgrade apache2 and php5 for security reasons

2008-07-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 02 July 2008 15:10, Daniel Hahler wrote: > Christian Desrochers wrote: > > Our web servers have been checked recently by an external security firm. > > We have been told that our web servers need to be upgraded to the latest > > version in order to fix some security issues. > > The cha

Re: Launchpad 1.2.6 released: code review by email and simpler bug page UI

2008-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 03 July 2008 05:59, Walter Franzini wrote: > "Matthew Revell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > > Code review by email > > - > > > > Launchpad's new code review system gives you a public place to discuss > > and vote on proposed code mergers. What's more, you

Re: Packaging question

2008-07-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 03 July 2008 17:12, Paul Gevers wrote: > Hello, > > [Not quite sure if this is the appropriate mail list, I was searching > for something like debian-mentors.] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-motu Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lis

Re: No "run" menu item?

2008-07-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 05 Jul 2008 15:33:09 -0500 HggdH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >> I've never actually seen a Windows user use it. They usually seem to >> prefer hunting through the Start Menu, except when tech support tells >> them to go to the Run thing and type "cmd" and hit Enter. > >Well, I have seen

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:06:16 +0200 Sebastian Breier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Am Montag, den 07.07.2008, 09:33 +0100 schrieb Matt Zimmerman: >> On Sun, Jul 06, 2008 at 03:27:46PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> > Do we need to reconsider how we approach getting t

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 07 July 2008 08:50, Cory K. wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > I think the only path to better tested releases is higher quality test > > releases. > > Sad fact is people don't install the alpha/betas at the same level as > final. So more actual testing/fe

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 07 July 2008 09:04, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 08:30:28AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > This is not sustainable in the long term. Before long people will be > > saying, "Everyone know not to upgrade Ubuntu until the first point > > re

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Mon, 7 Jul 2008 13:57:26 -0400 Daniel Robitaille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >update-manager has a cli client? Never heard of it. How do you call it? > sudo do-release-upgrade Scott K -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe a

Re: Did we really release 8.04?

2008-07-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 07 July 2008 14:07, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 07, 2008 at 01:57:26PM -0400, Daniel Robitaille wrote: > >> On Mon, 07 Jul 2008, Emmet Hikory wrote: > >> > This isn't a CLI vs. GUI issue, it's that so

Re: LTS and release methodology

2008-07-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 8 Jul 2008 10:38:01 +0200 "Krzysztof Lichota" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >Additionally, ship _newer_ versions of important apps to LTS releases, >so that continuity is kept. If LTSx release contains OpenOffice 2.2 >and new version 2.3 appears, port it to LTSx, so that when version >LTS

Re: transmission-1.30b1

2008-07-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 15:43:54 Kevin Bortis wrote: > Hi, I have played the last two days with learning how to make a deb > package. I tried it with transmission bittorrent client and the > builded packages are seeming to work. > > So if the Maintainer of transmission likes to include the upcoming

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 31 July 2008 12:23, George Farris wrote: > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 10:18 -0500, Tony Yarusso wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 8:14 PM, Anthony Watters > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The Ubuntu server should come in two offerings; i.e. the unfriendly > > > existing Ubuntu serve

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 31 July 2008 18:59, tacone wrote: > Scott Kitterman, on Thu Jul 31 17:38:30 BST 2008 > > > Generally you can do any server things from a desktop if you install the > > needed things. For easy Apache configurations there is: > > > > https://launch

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-07-31 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 31 Jul 2008 17:38:53 -0700 Dylan McCall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >This thread pokes quite nicely at the idea of an Ubuntu home server >metapackage to complement the rest of the desktop. I think this could be >a very edgy move if approached correctly. > >First of all, I am amongst those

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-08-01 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 01 Aug 2008 10:24:59 +0200 Michael Zoet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Ok. Does the server team has a use for a console admin who sometimes >uses the already available GUIs and who likes to disagree a lot with >all this "server administration has to be easy" stuff? ;-) Than I am >willing to

Re: Disappointed with Ubuntu Server, could be used by such a wider audience

2008-08-02 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 02 August 2008 12:29, (``-_-´´) -- Fernando wrote: > Olá Anthony e a todos. > > On Thursday 31 July 2008 02:14:06 Anthony Watters wrote: > > Preconfigure the thing, give it a GUI web admin, make it easy for someone > > to set up a Web server/Webmail/File server either in server only mod

Re: Subversion 1.5.1

2008-08-05 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:43:52 +0200 Stéphane Graber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Tue, 2008-08-05 at 10:45 +0200, Christian Ehmke wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I would like to know when a new package version (> 1.5) will be released. >> >> best regards >> Christian Ehmke >> >> > >Ubuntu only updates pack

Re: Reporting and Triaging ODP file

2008-08-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:02:10 +0100 Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Thu, 2008-08-07 at 20:24 -0400, Chuck Frain wrote: >> Greetings All, >> >> At the request of Daniel Holbach I uploaded a presentation that I will >> be giving on Saturday as a part of the Global Bug Jam for the Marylan

Re: Reporting and Triaging ODP file

2008-08-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 08 August 2008 02:21, Philip Wyett wrote: > On Fri, 2008-08-08 at 00:54 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 04:02:10 +0100 Philip Wyett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >It is not just this particular page I want to highlight alone as there > &

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: > Rubygems contains 'gem' - the Ruby Package manager. Ruby on Rails is a > gem based framework and is completely integrated with the gem package > manager. In Intrepid I would expect users to continue to use gem to > install Rails and for that to

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0700 Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 03:15:15PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Tuesday 19 August 2008 15:11, Neil Wilson wrote: >> >> > Rubygems contains 'gem' - the Ruby Package

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 15:46:34 -0700 Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 14:01:26 -0700 Mathias Gug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >> >The make a parallel with pyth

Re: Ruby on Rails support in Intrepid - call for reviewers and cheerleaders

2008-08-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 19 August 2008 19:56, Mathias Gug wrote: > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 07:28:02PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > >On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 05:58:39PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: ... > > >> >Neil's proposal is to improve the gem command (from the libge

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:42:31 +1000 "Null Ack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Evening Devs, > >Tonight I was doing some of my test suite and I had the >tracker-preferences crash unexpectedly doing routine workflow with >viewing (not changing) preferences. Apport came through and I ended up >at an inval

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 10:31, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Paul Smith wrote on 20/08/08 15:20: > >... > > On the other hand I do think it's worthwhile to somehow mark bugs which > > are not sufficiently documented as to be reproducible/fixable. > >... > > So, if there is no suitable bug state

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 20 August 2008 11:00, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote on 20/08/08 15:34: > > On Wednesday 20 August 2008 10:31, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > >... > > > >>> So, if there is no suitable bug state existing already we need a new > &g

Re: Backtracing, Invalidated Bugs and Quality

2008-08-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 18:42:01 +0100 "Caroline Ford" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >2008/8/20 Alexander Sack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> But there are also many crash reports where the retracers fail and we >> dont have any testcase. You want those to stay open as well? > >But what do we do with these th

Re: feedback on new wiki theme

2008-09-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 05 September 2008 16:56, Matthew East wrote: > Hi, > > Recently I've been developing a new theme which is intended to replace > the existing themes on the documentation wiki > (https://help.ubuntu.com/community). The intention of the theme is to > make reading the wiki easier for a user (

Re: Packages in Main/Universe I'm not allowed to modify ...

2008-09-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:44:09 +0100 "(``- -´´) -- Fernando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Olá Scott e a todos. > >On Tuesday 16 September 2008 11:46:58 Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Tuesday 16 September 2008 06:40, Alexander Sack wrote: >> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2

Re: Rejecting the Firefox EULA in Ubuntu

2008-09-17 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 17 September 2008 09:22, Paul Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2008-09-17 at 14:14 +0100, Sean Hodges wrote: > > It seems no'one has looked into this yet, so I will have a look this > > weekend. > > There has recently been an announcement from Mozilla that they're going > to fix this. See, for

Re: OCaml support on Ubuntu & Proposal to improve it

2008-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 27 Sep 2008 12:26:43 +0200 David MENTRE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... >== To do list and call for help == > >It is probably too late to do anything for Intrepid Ibex, but my aim is >to improve OCaml support for the next Ubuntu release. ... While that's true for major changes, if there ar

Re: python-support: pyversions conflicts with ${python:Depends}

2008-09-27 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 25 Sep 2008 01:26:16 +0400 Ivan Sagalaev <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello! > >Writing here since this email is a maintainer for python-support. Feel >free to redirect my wherever appropriate and accept my apologies in this >case! > >I'm building a pure-python package with python-support

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 29 September 2008 10:24, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > I see kdvi is no longer part of ubuntu, however it was the only user > friendly viewer that supported inverse searches. How is one supposed to > work with latex and inverse searches in intrepid? I don't see any proper > way except perhaps

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu

2008-09-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 29 September 2008 13:18, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > On lun, 2008-09-29 at 13:00 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > It appears to be replaced by Okular in KDE4. As a core part of the > > kdegraphics package there's no way to keep a KDE3 application, so it's >

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu - please read!

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 14:44:30 +0200 Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >For the sake of other ubuntueros and texers out there, I just took the >hardy packages for kviewshell and kdvi in order and installed them with >gdebi, and it works. > >Intrepid is currently dropping a functionality wh

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu - please read!

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sat, 04 Oct 2008 15:18:29 +0200 Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Il giorno sab, 04/10/2008 alle 09.00 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: >> >> If it's an essential piece of functionality for you, then you should >> stay with Hardy. > >I pe

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu - please read!

2008-10-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 04 October 2008 12:00, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Il giorno sab, 04/10/2008 alle 09.48 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: > > I understand your frustration. There just isn't a good answer that > > will > > satisfy everyone for Intrepid. If we'd stay

Re: No inverse searches for dvi files in ubuntu - please read!

2008-10-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Saturday 04 October 2008 20:37, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Saturday 04 October 2008 12:00, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > > Il giorno sab, 04/10/2008 alle 09.48 -0400, Scott Kitterman ha scritto: > > > I understand your frustration. There just isn't a good answer that &

Re: Subversion bug

2008-10-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 17 October 2008 04:09, Viacheslav Chumushuk wrote: > Hello. > > I think You have bug at ubuntu's subversion package. > We have three ubuntu machines and they have the same error. > Here is it: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www] $ svn checkout > svn+ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/repos/repository/po

Re: Confusing namespace for git in Intrepid repository

2008-10-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 09:07, Ethan Baldridge wrote: > Currently `apt-get install git` gives one a virtual package for "gnuit" > from universe, which is some sort of midnight commander-alike. This > seems rather odd considering that a) the program already has another > name and package (gnuit

Re: Confusing namespace for git in Intrepid repository

2008-10-22 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 22 October 2008 09:30, Andrew Sayers wrote: > Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Wednesday 22 October 2008 09:07, Ethan Baldridge wrote: > > > > > You would think that, but the package git predates the existance of Git > > the DVCS, so until it's r

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-29 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 29 October 2008 08:36, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2008/10/29 11:56 (GMT+0200) Jonathan Carter (highvoltage) composed: > > Also, as useful as mc is, it's only useful to a small amount of users, > > and will waste precious space on the Ubuntu release discs. mc is > > incredibly easy to inst

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 19:10:16 +0100 Thomas Novin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >...for example these[1,2] bugs never got fixed. Too bad, Firefox is >probably the most commonly used program in Ubuntu and still it works >poorly since you have to be on a above-average-user-level to open >commonly used fil

Re: Midnight Commander in 8.10

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:47:16 + Sean Hodges <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Phillip Susi wrote: >> Felix Miata wrote: >> > How nice for you that you've never had broken X, and never will >> have, and >> > never will need to help someone else with broken X. >> > >> >> So no, I don't think MC _needs

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 16:50:33 -0400 Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy >> Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has approved >> all the changes in the package. If you have a problem with Fire

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sunday 09 November 2008 15:07, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: ... > network. Some of them work in a release, some of them in another. In the > end, you never see your laptop "just working" in a single release. Oddly enough, for me, my Dell Latitude D430 laptop (not one of the ones that is pre-sold wi

Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday 10 November 2008 18:14, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > On 10/11/2008 Bryce Harrington wrote: > > > > You should know them very well :) In fact you were "assigned" to > > the > > > > case some point in time between winter and spring, or at least > > these > > > > were the words of somebody on

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday 11 November 2008 10:47, Luke L wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 10:03 PM, Martin Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development > >> with developers. Comments like "I was just joking about you having to > >> know anything" m

Hardware regressions was (Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions))

2008-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 09:00:36 + Vincenzo Ciancia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> If a distributor adds more goodies to the kernel, then be happy, but >> that doesn't mean, that it really works...even when the distributor puts >> the hardware on the list of supported hardware. >> > >I hope this

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 13 November 2008 05:13, Andrew Sayers wrote: > Sarah - this should make sense on its own, but it builds on an idea I > suggested in > https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-discuss/2008-November/006250 >.html > > which you might provide a little background to this post. > > > 3)

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I haven't bothered trying to use the GUI with my iwl4965 and WEP. I >just expect NM to not work when it comes to WEP. I have 4965 and it worked fine for me with KNetworkManager and WEP in Hardy. I have't had a nee

Re: Apport in stable releases [was: Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list]

2008-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 12:48:40 +0100 Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Markus Hitter [2008-11-13 11:56 +0100]: >> While we can't "fix" developers, we can put more automatic helpers >> into place: >> >> - Keep Apport enabled even on stable releases. Hiding bugs doesn't >> help. > >We don

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-13 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday 13 November 2008 22:43, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Thu, 2008-11-13 at 21:12 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:14:31 -0500 Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > >I haven't bothered trying to use the

Re: Apport in stable releases [was: Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list]

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 07:51:53 + "Matthew East" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:25 AM, Scott Kitterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I have heard people discuss post-release regressions due to SRU/security >> updates. I was chatting

Re: Apport in stable releases [was: Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list]

2008-11-14 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 09:44:00 +0100 Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Am 14.11.2008 um 03:25 schrieb Scott Kitterman: > >> Perhaps Apport could be taught to roll the dice and return crash >> reports in >> some fraction of cases post-release (perhaps 5

Re: kdebase-runtime-data seems to be FTBS (wasMain frozen for Alpha 1)

2008-11-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 14:27:52 + "(``- -´´) -- Fernando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Olá Steve e a todos. > >On Wednesday 19 November 2008 06:09:30 Steve Langasek wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> We're about two days before the expected release of Jaunty Alpha 1, so the >> milestone "freeze" is now in e

Re: kdebase-runtime-data seems to be FTBS (wasMain frozen for Alpha 1)

2008-11-19 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:04:26 + "(``- -´´) -- Fernando" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Olá Chris e a todos. > >On Wednesday 19 November 2008 14:51:56 Chris Coulson wrote: >> > Seems its going to be a show stopper >> It's only FTBFS for lpia architecture though > >I'm on 64 bits and not even with -

Re: What are the release dates of Ubuntu 8.10.x

2008-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:07:09 + "Alan Pope" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi Francesco, > >2008/11/30 Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> Could anybody please tell me when the updates of Ubuntu 8.10 will be >> released? >> > >What makes you think 8.10 _will_ have a respin/update to the ISO?

Re: Looking for guide about using launchpad

2008-12-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 18:32:20 +0100 Francesco Fumanti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hello, > >Could anybody please point me to a guide/tutorial about using launchpad >to create tarballs of a python project hosted on launchpad, manage >series, use its translation facilities... > >Many thanks in adva

Re: No kate-plugins neither in Intrepid nor in Jaunty

2008-12-16 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 10:59:22 -0500 jpfleury wrote: >Hi, > >kate-plugins package is neither in Intrepid repository nor in Jaunty. >There are a lot of missing functionalities without this package. Is >there a reason about this absence? > >Bug report about that: > >https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+

Re: Reportbug's behaviour now that bts=ubuntu is dropped

2009-01-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday 07 January 2009 12:30, Iain Lane wrote: > Hi all, > > Just a quick mail to solicit some kind of general consensus on this > issue, which came up when I merged reportbug 3.48 from Debian[0]. > > Previous versions of reportbug in Ubuntu were configured to mail bug > reports to the ubuntu

Re: Reportbug's behaviour now that bts=ubuntu is dropped

2009-01-07 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 16:33:38 -0700 Charlie Kravetz wrote: >On Wed, 7 Jan 2009 14:21:20 -0500 >Scott Kitterman wrote: > >> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 12:30, Iain Lane wrote: >> > Hi all, >> > >> > Just a quick mail to solicit some kind of general consen

RE: incapable and obsolete APT / Aptitude replacement

2009-02-08 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Sun, 8 Feb 2009 16:59:13 -0500 Guy Wire wrote: > >Is there any interest in Nix? > >http://nixos.org/ > >I really don't know much of anything as to how it works, but it seemed to me an intriguing concept. > There was some discussion about recently. IIRC, the conclusion was that it was an in

Re: Any news on skype+pulseaudio+intel_hda_realtek ?

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:35:50 + Scott James Remnant wrote: >On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 16:31 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > >> Undoubtly, efforts to avoid regressions are a very good thing. One >> possible solution is to offer the possibility to roll back to or keep >> the previous technology. P

Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 23:52:21 + habtool wrote: >On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:42 -0600, Nergar -blank- wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 09:59, Clive Wagenaar >> wrote: >> >> (It is a pity this is from upstream where Arch, fedora etc >> will all also >> 'dum

Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:37:49 -0500 John Moser wrote: >On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> I don't particularly care for the deicision that was made, but it's been >> made, so there's little point rehashing it now. >> > >F

Re: Fwd: Is disabling ctrl-alt-backspace really such a good idea?

2009-02-10 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 20:26:06 -0500 John Moser wrote: >On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 8:12 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 19:37:49 -0500 John Moser >> wrote: >>> >> This is engineering, not science. There is no single answer that is right >

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 17:43:35 +0100 Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: >2009/2/11 Null Ack >> >> Can I please be advised of why Jaunty will not ship with 2.6.29, and >> that the kernel team has elected to ship on .28? > >I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >enough time to

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:04:30 +0100 Surfaz Gemon Meme wrote: >>>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >>>enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. >> >> If that's the case, I applaud the kernel team's decision to be less forward >> leaning this time arounf.

Re: Reasons Why Jaunty Will Not Ship With 2.6.29

2009-02-11 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wed, 11 Feb 2009 18:45:10 - (UTC) "Andy Rogers" wrote: >>I think that the main reason is time releases of Ubuntu, there is not >enough time to wait for 2.6.29, test, a fix bugs. > > >Hi All > >Iam new to this kind of discussion thing, only been using Ubuntu for >around 9 months and loving

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