Re: Wacom config hacks (was: An example of how things should *not* be done)

2008-04-23 Thread Martin Owens
ing plugged in. I'd also like my tablet to work as soon as I plug it in and not have to restart X every time to get none mouse functionality. Is there a ticket for this specific bug instead of the symptoms. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubunt

Re: Pulseaudio/Jack in Ubuntu Hardy

2008-04-29 Thread Martin Owens
d to ignore the rant that followed the productive part of the email, it wasn't very nice. Please lets keep this mailing list professional. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Suggestion to make remote recovery easier

2008-05-07 Thread Martin Owens
st Regards, Martin Owens, Ubuntu-US-MA leader 2008/5/8 John McCabe-Dansted <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 6:56 AM, Andrew Sayers > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > 1) Creating or modifying an account that has the necessary permissions > > 2

Re: Ubuntu beyond GTK apps?

2008-05-16 Thread Martin Owens
esn't conform to the HIG of gnome or kde in those settings is a bug, it might not be an important one but it _is_ a problem and not a feature. The solutions will be non-obvious and a real pain in the neck sometimes but we can't just dismiss these problems because their too hard or requ

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Martin Owens
any country) and it's not how we're supposed to do things here. Fortunately while there are those of us bemoaning the codec problem, there are still those of us trying to solve it. Regards, Martin Owens 2008/6/7 Remco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > And just for kicks they annoy their

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Martin Owens
>> Anybody in their uneducated right mind probably. I run openSUSE and run it >> happily I might add. Lets take a breath here and step back from the FUD >> button >> on your keyboard. >> > > Spoken like a true Microvell shill. > Richard A. Johnson sees no problem with the technicalities of openSu

Re: making deals with M$

2008-06-07 Thread Martin Owens
> All of a sudden, any 'back room deals' are irrelevant. I wish people would talk about issues instead of technical solutions or flaming some mis-informed guy. Anyone care to? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://l

Re: Dealing with codecs, was: Making deals with Microsoft

2008-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
e developer money into solving these problems. Where is the investment money from these tablet PC makers into the projects that would reduce their costs in the long run? We should be asking them to invest in real project too. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing lis

Re: Dealing with codecs, was: Making deals with Microsoft

2008-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
> > It sucks, but that's software patents for you. > It's sucks? no eating a bad piece of pie and farting too much sucks. Having your laws slapped in your face by greedy bastards that's an insult several levels above sucks my friend. I don't believe in these so called licenses, they didn't make t

Re: Boot-time improvements

2008-09-11 Thread Martin Owens
of hack will improve things and I reckon they made good progress. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Configuration Validation

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Owens
the way apt/deb works. I propose python as a language of choice to build such a system. I assume much of these ideas to have been discussed at length before, but my searches aren't picking up useful results. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-disc

Re: Configuration Validation

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Owens
2008/9/12 Andrew Sayers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Could you spell out some specific issues that this would solve? For > example, are you looking to avoid two packages overwriting each other's > files in ~/? If so, can you give an example of that happening? > Examples: 1) I manually edit a config f

Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Owens
t what is currently best practice. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Configuration Validation

2008-09-12 Thread Martin Owens
n go build the building. I'll be talking more about this at UDS in December if you want to join the session. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Owens
know if I've managed to explain my ideas on how we can differentiate user data from configuration data. I'd be interested in cases which break my logic. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-17 Thread Martin Owens
stored in the right place it's not permanent and is more of a state of the application. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
ving to "sync" data, it would allow programmers far more stability and confidence in how to access various types of data, creating a platform for more interesting ideas to be tried out. Oh and most people end up creating a backgrounds folder anyway. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
h the main aspects of being able to run your files through any application outside of gnome is still very attractive. ergo: ssh from your laptop to your computer, your looking for a contact in your evolution account. You have the command line. P.S. I've taken cheese mailing list off the reply,

Re: [Evolution-hackers] Configuration masquerading Data

2008-09-18 Thread Martin Owens
d be a simple matter of getting the files in the right places. As for opensync, could you imagine if they could eliminate all those custom end point plugins for each and every application? Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Ubuntu Kernel Conribuitions

2008-09-22 Thread Martin Owens
My 2 pence worth: 2008/9/22 (``-_-´´) -- Fernando <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > First, I'm sorry for the cross posting, but this subject concerns both areas. > > I've been attending several distros users meeting this last year, and had my > last one at OpenSuse ENOS08 [1]. > In every meeting I go, I kee

Re: Tablet PC under ubuntu - a call to xorg and ubuntu developers

2008-09-29 Thread Martin Owens
> 1) I didn't expect that tablet support in intrepid was going to be > SILENTLY DROPPED or else I would have spoken earlier It's funny but I watched as Graphic Tablet support was silently dropped from Hardy because of a KDE wishlist bug. "Oh noes! my kde is creating warnings about missing tablet h

Re: tablet-support in Ubuntu

2008-10-05 Thread Martin Owens
>> Someone needs to kick^H^H^H^Hask upstream :) > If we want to forward the bugs upstream, do we do this on xorg (wherever > it might be), evdev or linuxwacom bug tracker? Not sure to be honest, months and months ago (so long ago I forget) I sent Bryce a wacom table to work with. I'd hold off on

Re: support

2008-10-09 Thread Martin Owens
ight be dealing with some odd cups problem, encoding into postscript twice or what have you; although I haven't seen that kind of error for many years. Failing all else, ask on the foomatic/gutenprint mailing list. Some good experts with printers there. Best Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2008-

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 released but...

2008-10-30 Thread Martin Owens
> Firefox is a special case. Because of Mozilla Corp's trademark policy > Ubuntu cannot ship Firefox and call it Firefox unless Mozilla has approved > all the changes in the package. If you have a problem with Firefox, I > think you really need to look upstream. Doesn't this tie our hands wi

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Martin Owens
What does the mobile manager do? what does is manage? There has been a lot of discussion and debate about Hardware Management vs Device Capability. Should the manager provide functional access then it might work via hal capabilities, if it's configuration or some other kind of hardware management

Re: Inclusion of a mobile management tool

2008-11-03 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2008-11-03 at 22:56 +0530, Chandru wrote: > One very common use of a mobile management app is backup of contacts. > Apart from that if need be (not exactly too common), back up text > messages. > > But beyond that Wammu provides capabilities to manage mobile's > calendar, To Do, etc, etc w

Re: Ubuntu 8.10 significantly slower than previous versions

2008-11-06 Thread Martin Owens
> Anyway, it does look like linux wins in the end. I do not believe that is a good thing; Just because Gnu/Linux can be faster than windows vista doesn't automatically mean we are serving our users well. The good news always comes from the users directly who never complain about slowness. When

Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions

2008-11-09 Thread Martin Owens
> Anyway, thanks for the good work in areas different from hardware > support. Intrepid is lovely, every time I try it I really would like to > be able to start using it. I hope to be in time for jaunty :) Have you tried reinstalling Ubuntu 8.10 from scratch? I have the same wifi as you and I h

Re: Do you really want developers to be on this list was (Re: Very bad status of hardware (especially wifi) support in ubuntu, due to the too many accumulated regressions)

2008-11-10 Thread Martin Owens
> This list was created to give users a way to discuss Ubuntu development with > developers. Comments like "I was just joking about you having to know > anything" make the decision to unsubscribe easy. I'm seriously considering > it myself. It should remain, developers should remain. Develop

Alpha Test 2008-12-16

2008-12-16 Thread Martin Owens
Alpha Test conducted by Martin Owens, on Tue 26 Dec 2008 09:17:20 -0500 Notes: Lots of things couldn't be tested, we need some more information in the test suite about how to execute some things. Other things are blocked because it's impossible to reset the account we use for testin

Re: Alpha Test 2008-12-16

2008-12-17 Thread Martin Owens
Sorry guys, I sent this email to the wrong list. Martin, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: too complicated

2009-01-07 Thread Martin Owens
> Oh it is, i just meant "don't go doing a global replace on the wiki > with that because formatting and special conditions would break > pages". But yes, in a carefully considered editing exercise, one could > edit many pages on the wiki and make them more usable/friendly. The problem with the

Re: possibility of opening hardware stats ? Smolts

2009-01-17 Thread Martin Owens
ble to generate a unique hardware class ids that allow destinations, even when normal class ids are the same (examples of scanners, phones, motherboards with the same usb or pci ids but different metrics) Only then can you start fixing this problem properly. Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-disc

Re: possibility of opening hardware stats ? Smolts

2009-01-18 Thread Martin Owens
Thank you for taking time and explaining everything so well. > Would like to know a bit more about the project you tried > Martin Owens. Sure: https://launchpad.net/dohickey the python based client implements some very rough filtering and sorting logic to pick through the erroneous informa

Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints

2009-01-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2009-01-22 at 11:19 +, Andrew Sayers wrote: > Hi all, > > Ubuntu developers tend to complain about the ratio of signal to noise on > this list - that is, the percentage of posts that take up their time > without helping them to improve Ubuntu. Many developers have apparently > unsubsc

Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints

2009-01-22 Thread Martin Owens
> >> I'm [somehow confident] that other people would consider these > >> examples of noise. > > > > Good point - I've now changed it to "... consider these to be examples > of noise". Is that alright? "Somehow confident"? your confident, but you don't know why? My brain must have auto replace

Re: Doing something about signal:noise complaints

2009-01-23 Thread Martin Owens
, I tend to crop, but tend to include the quote that the test refers to. > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 10:56:03AM -0500, Martin Owens wrote: > > ... > > "Somehow confident"? your confident, but you don't know why? > > Loïc was indicating that the space filled

Re: Thoughts for assisting those with limited bandwidth

2009-02-02 Thread Martin Owens
ary diff packages discussions. Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Metacity as a compositing manager

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Owens
> In the interest of feature-parity, the relevant question to my mind is: > can composited Metacity do everything that the default Compiz can? I'm > not talking about what can be enabled with ccsm or simple-ccsm, but what > can be enabled in Appearances -> Desktop Effects. If the simple > transi

Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon

2009-03-16 Thread Martin Owens
Would the lay person grok that they are online from this icon or would it show that they are in fact sitting behind a paywall? I don't think it's as useful to equate network connectivity to online status. I think we may need two separate icons, or one of these newfangled status widgets an

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-19 Thread Martin Owens
o load a file from a nautilus context when you can just load the target application first and use that Open/Load functionality. This may at first look like duplication, but it's not, it's contexted functionality and it improved the ease of use of the system. Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu

Re: Remove app via apt-get from menu

2009-03-20 Thread Martin Owens
> It is true that some menu items in Ubuntu have context menus (another > example is Firefox's Bookmarks menu), but that doesn't necessarily mean > it's a good idea. Firefox bookmarks are a great comparison, because the bookmarks menu isn't a context menu, it's a list menu. It's a good idea to h

Re: Replacing network-offline (old version 2xmonitor) with NM wlan 0% signal strength icon

2009-03-22 Thread Martin Owens
> 2) Create trust to this study platform within interested players - > commercial OEMs, non-commercials, universies; Is Canonical not interested in brining these OEMs and other commercial entities into the community or does it find it's job is now just to shield them from the community? I hope t

Re: Hardware information applet... anyone working on it?

2009-04-09 Thread Martin Owens
> Further, this could (in theory) give users a one-stop-shop for all > things physically attached to their computers so they know where to look > after connecting new hardware. It's sounds useful, just be aware that there is a difference between a device and hardware. The former is a representati

Unmaintained Repository Was: Spoke too early

2009-04-26 Thread Martin Owens
e recent Eclipse packages, which are maintained upstream, but not in our packaging. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Unmaintained Repository Was: Spoke too early

2009-04-26 Thread Martin Owens
s combined was the reason for removing it. Ah so the important part here is not that it's unmaintained, but that it's superseded with a package that should (in theory) offer all the features. Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.u

Re: Ubuntu Gaming Team

2009-04-27 Thread Martin Owens
> > Some confusion maybe seen from the naming, but I see no real issue. The > team members who wish too can look at and work with more specific Ubuntu > issues and act as a conduit between the teams of both distributions to > make things better. Many teams work in this way and I see no real > com

Re: Usev permissions and USB scanners

2009-05-05 Thread Martin Owens
c) Although no idea how this effects DeviceKit, I presume it's going to need some kind of similar list of devices supported. Regards, Martin Owens On Sun, 2009-05-03 at 16:16 +0300, kohe...@gmail.com wrote: > Hello, > In the Brother support page: > http://solutions.brother.com/linux/en

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Martin Owens
andling, config-handling all of which are moving along) Although if LoCo experience is anything to go by, people are happy with their Ubuntu installations and some will ask for re-installation with a newer version. But most are happy. Regards, Martin Owens On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 14:12 +0300, Peteris

Re: What's wrong with Ubuntu's policy?

2009-05-21 Thread Martin Owens
pace and developing more flexible, modular and easier designs over time. Perhaps others have a different view of maturity though. thoughts? Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Epson iscan and plugins

2009-05-22 Thread Martin Owens
were fustrated that they couldn't get their Epson scanner working. Any advice would be very useful. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Support data gathering tool

2009-05-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2009-05-31 at 18:27 -0400, Joseph Miller wrote: > I like this suggestion, I think it really makes a lot of sense. Kind > of makes me wonder why there isn't one already. Przemysław Kulczycki, > I have looked at the Explorer page. I don't see any reason for Ubuntu > to not do this as a s

Re: On apturls and repositories

2009-06-01 Thread Martin Owens
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 09:48 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: > Sounds like the discussion at UDS about having support for adding > repositories (or at least PPAs) via apturl didn't get very far. At risk > of prolonging a stalemate, I get the impression blocking this idea for > safety reasons is completel

Re: On apturls and repositories

2009-06-03 Thread Martin Owens
On Tue, 2009-06-02 at 11:51 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote: > In fact there was a second apturl session during UDS (which you didnt > attend unfortunately); Yea sorry about that, too many sessions going on, although I did talk with people directly after the session and I was happy enough with the dec

Re: On apturls and repositories

2009-06-06 Thread Martin Owens
> No, it isn't. HTTP is by definition over port 80 - or perhaps 8080: Is it? I didn't think is was the port that defined the protocol but the nature of the messages sent over the connection. The port is a default but not a requirement, like ssh or ftp. Martin, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss maili

Re: shameful censoring of mono opposition

2009-06-07 Thread Martin Owens
> MONO is a poor imitation of java, so why use MONO!? Mark, while I'm no fan of Mono, I am a big fan of the Code of Conduct and giving an issue the consideration it deserves. Your email, like many of the boycott-novell give the wrong impression and have a sort of nutty after-taste. http://www.ub

Re: Stable 64-bit flash

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Owens
depending on your arch would probably be a better bet, I bet it's also set to be i386 only too. A more clever script would prevent confusion I think. Regards, Martin Owens On Wed, 2009-06-17 at 12:19 -0400, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > IIRC, the Flash 64 bit Alpha almost made it into Intre

Re: Stable 64-bit flash

2009-06-17 Thread Martin Owens
. > Nothing seems to have changed on Jaunty installs when installing ubuntu-restricted-extras, does this install via the script or are we talking perhaps at cross logic? Anyway, this seems like a job for Adobe, probably make it in for 10.04. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: AMD/ATI vs NVIDIA vs Intel

2009-06-21 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2009-06-21 at 13:39 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Or just because they take profit of the fact that they are advertised as > _the_ free video card for linux, but they do not really work for fixing > their drivers timely. I have nvidia, ati and intel cards. The most > problematic and bugg

Re: Improve LiveCD localisation (Was: Remove F-Spot from the LiveCD)

2009-06-28 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 00:37 +0200, tacone wrote: > I really think the best thing to do would be to offer a download > option for localized CDs. > That way an english+selected-language cd can be shipped without > sacrificing LiveCD applications. You might be helped by binary diffs instead of full i

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Owens
Best Regards, Martin Owens On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 07:45 +0800, Onno Benschop wrote: > As Ubuntu becomes more and more popular, the resources we use to > communicate within our community become saturated with the sounds made > by new and learning users. This is not a new thing, nor is it >

Re: Standing in the street trying to hear yourself think

2009-07-03 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2009-07-03 at 19:47 +0100, Andrew Sayers wrote: > I'm coming to a similar conclusion from the opposite direction. A quick > chat in #ubuntu-signpost lead me to start writing this: > > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Signpost The only problem I see is that you redirect people wh

Re: Why Ubuntu is not ready for prime time

2009-08-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2009-08-26 at 14:53 -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: > > P.S.: If the OP is not a troll, I don't know what is. > http://redenaz.deviantart.com/art/Behind-the-Keyboard-Trolls-76598407 Do NOT feed the trolls! Hug them. Martin, -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@li

Re: Excuse me, please.

2009-09-02 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2009-09-02 at 08:03 -0700, George Farris wrote: > That's okay Jonathan, if you think Ubuntu is hard you should try Windows > some day, talk about hard, man, driver hell, no easy printer installs, > the list goes on and on, it really is amazingly bad. If you think that's hard, try developin

Re: Ubuntu for laptops

2009-09-22 Thread Martin Owens
n the laptop is plugged into the wall. What would be more ideal is to sort out the file system driver so it behaved differently when it's on battery power (or in any kind of energy conservation mode). Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.u

Re: Ubuntu for laptops

2009-09-22 Thread Martin Owens
to do, then we might just have to suck it. I'm an optimist, if these fine kernel folks have a problem thrust upon them, they will likely solve it somehow. More resources required? Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify sett

Re: Huge instability and insanely large memory footprint in 9.04

2009-09-24 Thread Martin Owens
d Atom and Arm netbooks all the way up to the monster 16GB RAM Gaming rigs for playing Savage2. It it's not working on a computer with 1GB of RAM, then we need to fix it. This is clearly not a case of user error. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-di

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Owens
Am 20.10.2009 um 11:26 schrieb Michael Zoet: > I think it is a big mistake to believe server administration is > easy when > you have a GUI. Servers are easier to administrate when you have education, easy tool use is useful. But broad sweeping statements like "GUI for the win" is not accurate

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Owens
ddit > link: http://www.reddit.com/tb/9w23y/ original > link: > http://www.consortiuminfo.org/standardsblog/article.php?story=20091020050110241). > If you're in support of this idea, just pass on any simple actions you come > across to the list. There's also this nifty ac

Re: [ubuntu-marketing] Reviving the Marketing Team (yet again!) with a focus on simple activism

2009-10-21 Thread Martin Owens
Hey John, On Wed, 2009-10-21 at 10:46 -0500, John Vilsack wrote: > It saddens me because Ubuntu is a dominant product that could be so > much more if the grassroots movement would allow itself to have > direction. But after years of infighting in politics and other open > source products, I didn

Re: artwork

2009-10-24 Thread Martin Owens
Hello Coz, Lets not call for people to be fired just yet, I'm sure things can be improved with some community involvement and a little unmooding of the style. Though it's totally subjective, as style usually is. A lot of people call my graphics too cartoonish and not serious. I tend to iconify in

Re: No Cyber Cafe Software for Ubuntu yet...

2009-12-25 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 16:11 +1000, Chris Jones wrote: > I sense a bit of laziness involved with the OP with wanting software > that does all the hard work for you! > Isn't laziness a good thing? If the OP is willing to pay for the development of tools to speed or make easier the setup of these s

Re: No Cyber Cafe Software for Ubuntu yet...

2009-12-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 13:58 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > Am 26.12.2009 um 07:23 schrieb Martin Owens: > > > The target of computing design is to make the very complex, simple > > to operate. > > Unfortunately, many software designers think that way. The more >

Re: No Cyber Cafe Software for Ubuntu yet...

2009-12-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 18:37 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > That's what I often do. As a rule of thumb, if there's more than one > way to achieve a goal, there's too much functionality. > > Not exactly mainstream, I know. By profession I'm a mechanical > designer and there the cost of redundant

Re: Software Design

2009-12-26 Thread Martin Owens
On Sat, 2009-12-26 at 19:57 +0100, Markus Hitter wrote: > To get back to the initial topic, instead of paying people to write > tools for taming complexity, paying people for getting rid of unused > stuff would be even better. Culling is a valid job, it's just not valid to remove functionalit

Re: Focus of the introduction for programmers

2010-01-29 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Sense, Perhaps the problem is that inside the Ubuntu project there aren't a great number of development projects that new users can just dive right into. Basically anything to do with bzr, launchpad, ubiquity or the handful of other little extras that help the Ubuntu distribution. Most progra

Re: Why is UPG halfway implemented?

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 15:05 -0500, John Moser wrote: > So yeah, i tend to be the "Lock it down until it's unlocked" person. > There should be a /home/_Shared/ folder owned by root, drwtrwxrwx, > linked to as "Shared Documents." Why the underscore? Just put it in some other directory and not in /ho

Re: Indie Software Dev

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Owens
Hello Jon, All the game makers that make FDO versions (aka Linux versions) of their games say they make good money from them. The ones that fail are usually the ones that disrespect the market by not making the FDO version available for general consumption in a nice easy way. They make it so hard

Re: Indie Software Dev

2010-03-05 Thread Martin Owens
There's a plan for that. Would you put $200 in to the hat if you also set up the hat and drummed up other people's interest? Because I believe that this is something we can make money doing and provide Ubuntu with something GOD DAMN AWESOME and FOSS. Martin, On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 16:44 -0800, B

Accounting Program

2010-03-06 Thread Martin Owens
Hi Brett, On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 05:18 -0800, Brett wrote: > >There's a plan for that. > >Would you put $200 in to the hat if you also >set up the hat and drummed > >up other people's interest? > > Am moving back to my hometown in a few weeks, and was thinking of getting in > touch with the local

Re: Accounting Program

2010-03-07 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 18:22 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > The problem with most open source accounting apps is that they don't > support local (country-specific) requirements, or they need extensive > tweaking that requires help from local accountants and a bunch of > programmers to get and keep it ri

Re: Accounting Program

2010-03-07 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 14:32 -0500, Danny Piccirillo wrote: > What if you created a framework that could add support for other > states and countries so that a new application isn't needed for each > case? Of course. It would be silly not to reuse what we already have available and of course just

Re: Accounting Program

2010-03-07 Thread Martin Owens
On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 22:27 +0100, Jan Claeys wrote: > The reason why I mention a company is that if an accounting program > wants to be useful for more than a couple of other people it will need > *a lot* of maintenance, and some changes will have rather short > deadlines (the tax office won't bu

Re: Ubuntu needs a new development model

2010-05-05 Thread Martin Owens
You mean "Publishing Model" not "Development Model" There are people thinking about development models, economics, community, tools etc and this thread is not about any of it. Martin, On Wed, 2010-05-05 at 18:44 -0400, Ryan Oram wrote: > Ubuntu needs a change in direction. I propose that Ubuntu

Re: Ubuntu needs a new development model

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Owens
Indeed, but what you suggest is not economically relevant although it may be interesting socially. Work on making GPG keys easier to work with and easier to trust people and packages signed by people and organisations, then you can work on getting it more distributed. Martin, On Wed, 2010-05-05

Re: Ubuntu needs a new development model

2010-05-06 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, 2010-05-06 at 16:23 -0400, John Moser wrote: > Which brings us back to trusting people. I'll ignore your over the top theatrics and merely posit that perhaps solving the problem of trust can only really be tacked once you've got a firm grasp of human dignity. Most people are not out to ge

Re: LiveCD optimisations

2010-05-20 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Louis, Sounds great and looks like a pretty good script, I have some comments: You may be able to make it a little faster by using the find results in one like like this: find / -type f -name "*.svg" -print0 | xargs -0 -I FILE sh -c '/tmp/scour/scour.py --enable-id-stripping --indent=none -i

Re: Proposal: DNS cache by default for ubuntu-desktop

2010-06-02 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-02 at 14:41 +0100, Mohammed Bassit wrote: > This is already implemented in NetworkManager. I believe dnsmasq-base > is > included by default in Lucid (in Karmic too I think). > You only need to select "Shared to other computers" when edit the IPv4 > settings of a network connection

Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 16:08 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > "Danny Piccirillo" wrote: > >Yes, the free software only option is there, but isn't entirely free. That's > >what linux-libre is for. Linux libre should be the kernel for the free > >software install. Mainline Linux is not free because

Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 16:59 -0500, Travis Beaty wrote: > Now then. Having been involved in the Linux society and culture, I > understand why closed-source software is shunned. However, I also see > that, at this juncture, it is often necessary to make things work. > Right now, I've got a wireles

Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?

2010-06-09 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-09 at 18:30 -0500, Travis Beaty wrote: > Hmm. This confuses me, then. Because I know it was a problem at one > point, at least with SuSE. I had to get different packages from plf > in order to play them. The problem is patents, i.e. people who didn't write the code, who have n

Re: Is Ubuntu commited to free software?

2010-06-10 Thread Martin Owens
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 18:32, David Schlesinger wrote: > I disagree: these "politics" are part of "free software", not "open > source software". There's nothing in the OSI Definition dictating that > you remove the option to use non-open source software from users if > that's their choice. Feel f

Re: Shouldn't update-manager's "check for updates" setting have an "hourly" option?

2010-06-22 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-06-23 at 00:38 -0400, Nathan Dorfman wrote: > A fair point, but I think that up to 24 hours without a critical > security update could be undesirable in some situations. Certainly, I > think the default should remain "daily." For what it's worth, Fedora's > default is daily but it does

Re: No Flash player in Ubuntu 10.04 LTS - the Lucid Lynx

2010-06-28 Thread Martin Owens
Hello Palle, This is not the place for support, this is for development discussion. Could you report the problem to one of the support channels listed here: http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community Martin, On Mon, 2010-06-28 at 13:45 +0200, Palle Hellemann wrote: > I can't install a Flash playe

Re: Ubuntu packaging assistance?

2010-06-30 Thread Martin Owens
Randall, I was going to ask if you had contacted the local team, but you seem to be already in with that team. If no one in your team is a packager, it's hard to imagine there could still be packagers near Vancouver but not in your loco too. (although it could happen) Martin, On Wed, 2010-06-30

Fwd: Thanks for Ubuntu

2010-07-23 Thread Martin Owens
ke sure that you all know there are people like our geeky squad friend in New Hampshire that are not only delighted by Ubuntu, but I would say profoundly effected by it. Best Regards, Martin Owens [1] Best Buy, a USA company that has large stores selling office supplies and media. Similar to the

Re: XDG Config Folders

2010-08-31 Thread Martin Owens
Hey Sebastian, On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 22:51 +0200, Sebastian Geiger wrote: > I just wanted to bring this up, if there has already been a discussion > about this, maybe someone can point me to it or let me know about the > current status about this issue. XDG underuse and misuse is a pet peeve of

Re: XDG Config Folders

2010-08-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Wed, 2010-09-01 at 00:19 +0200, Krzysztof Klimonda wrote: > For example you are saying that emails should go to the directory > specified in user-dirs.[defaults,dirs] but that makes no sense uless > we > are thinking about $DOCUMENTS/.email_app/. Emails, while being > documents, aren't really

Re: XDG Config Folders

2010-08-31 Thread Martin Owens
On Tue, 2010-08-31 at 19:35 -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think working to promote cross desktop adoption of technologies that > make it easier to interact with data in a consistent, DE independent > manner, (like Akonadi) will do more to solve this class of problems > than specification work.

Re: More LiveCD space optimizations

2010-10-07 Thread Martin Owens
On Fri, 2010-10-08 at 00:07 +0800, John McCabe-Dansted wrote: > Strangely, even running advzip -z -0 > images_human.zip shrinks it by 3%, and even shrinks the corresponding > images_human.zip.gz file That's not strange, that's just entropic packing principles. You've got a bunch of assumptions th

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