Hey Remco, > I only have/had two problems with the situation, and that's not > something against Canonical per se
I do have some problems with this but it can not be solved by limiting the users workstation; I don't even believe it's right to keep certain formats off the CD for instance keeping liblame away from ubuntu is a great travesty since it's free software. No what we need to encourage the use of free codecs on websites is better tools. Better authoring tools, better distrobution tools and more focus on making our system that uses these codecs by default is _the_ best system to make videos and audio. At the moment even if someone wanted to create a theora video they'd have to jump through a number of technical hoops, mostly because they'd be making it on a mac because our tools aren't good enough. Build it and they _will_ come. Keep trying to tie users hands with educational buffering and scary stories about how we're all being stupid for installing wmv codecs isn't going to work and isn't the right tactic to use. I'd favour having all codecs on board by default; for instance we should be trying to get real media to make a _real_ real media plugin and stop fobbing us off with their helix stuff, we should ask them for open source versions of the codec that works with everything. Not only that but any codec that we currently use windows dlls for we _must_ reverse engineer and recode from scratch, work is already going into ffmpeg for wmv support. More money is needed to free these parts properly. Some of the stop gap measures we've put in place aren't good enough because they're not legal anywhere. I'm waiting for Canonical and other workstation software vendors to put some developer money into solving these problems. Where is the investment money from these tablet PC makers into the projects that would reduce their costs in the long run? We should be asking them to invest in real project too. Best Regards, Martin Owens -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss