[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I'm changing the title of this bug to: "Regression: bubble location setting from notification-daemon is not migrated to notify-osd" This reflects the original problem better. The bug asking for the possibility to configure notify-osd's bubble location has already been filed separately at as bug

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

The configuration tool that doesn't do anything is from notification- daemon. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list u

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 10-06-11 05:10 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > that item is there only if you installed Ubuntu Jaunty alpha 4 and have > upgraded since then. It is not present in any Ubuntu release version. Sorry, that's simply not true. I've never installed an a

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Matthew: After more than one year.. will we see any change for notify- osd or do you just want to explain again and again that this is no bug? Before this change I looked alot at the notifications. Since more than one year I more and more ignore them. Mostly because they are not visible for me. I

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Mike.lifeguard, as I have already explained twice in this bug report, that item is there only if you installed Ubuntu Jaunty alpha 4 and have upgraded since then. It is not present in any Ubuntu release version. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

There's still a 'Pop-Up Notifications' entry in System>Preferences that does nothing. Is that supposed to be there if you're not supporting any preferences for notify-osd? -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because y

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Cybercosmonaut, Canonical developers are implementing org.freedesktop.Notifications.CloseNotification and fixing some bugs, but not doing other work on Notify OSD in Lucid. Anyone else is, however, welcome to implement the gconf-controlled positioning options described in the specification

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Will we see any change on this before Lucid Lynx or will it be ignored by the developers? I am waiting since 8 months for a official solution. Sorry to say so but Karmic Koala was mostly a step backward for me. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You r

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

zoostation, it is not true that "the Karmic settings menu has a Pop-Up Notifications config in it where I can tell it to change style and location". The only version of Ubuntu where that was true was Jaunty alpha 4; It was removed in alpha 5. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

My apologies if my remarks here have already been addressed, but can you blame me for not wanting to read all 86 posts when half of them or more are people bickering about whether or not this is a problem, and whose job it is to fix it? I just wanted to say I switched to Ubuntu (Gutsy Gibbon, upgr

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

@John Ledbetter: Are you seriously demonstrating that this entire argument could have been defused with ~40 lines of code, which amount to a few constants and a switch block? Over six months of arguing over nothing. How disappointing. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launch

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Each ignorance and arrogance haves it's price. That's are users who would not use such system. I hope this weird ussue would be fixed as well. I *hate* using taskbar on top of screen, yet I forced to use notification in upper part of screen. And using registry not an answer, such things should be c

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

How arrogant Ubuntu developers are! Sigh. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Thanks John! I just had to create the gravity key on my own in the gconf-editor and after setting it to 3 I finally had the notifications on the bottom right. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a mem

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Sorry for not specifying. The patch I attached was built against the current bzr tunk. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mail

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Thanks for the patch but I cannot patch the source of notify-osd from packages.ubuntu.com with it. Which sources did you use? -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subsc

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Here's a quick patch which uses the new 'gravity' gconf key to provide four new positions (top-left, middle-left, bottom-left, and bottom- right), in addition to the current top-right and middle-right options. ** Attachment added: "gravity options patch" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/31954532/g

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Hello, I noticed some days ago that now the notifications appear no more on right top of screen, but right middle. I was wondering if it was a bug or feature, but it is a feature, indeed an experiment waiting for users advice to decide what to do : http://macslow.net/?p=381 Comments can be left

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Derek,MPT,Sebastian et al: The problem is not that notify-osd won't cater to someone's preferences or old settings or whatever,the problem was with the initial response of MPT(status: bug->invalid,wontfix) and the problems faced by those with poor peripheral vision(MBT).MPT amended himself(after a

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Better yet, in your case, just change the whole Exec=/bin/sh... line to: Exec=/usr/lib/notification-daemon/notification-daemon [Brain fart!] -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bug

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Whoops! Forgot to mention Sebastien's hint at a fix, will it work for you until notify-osd is fixed? "/usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.service on how it's started" Seems like: 1) Install notification-daemon. 2) Open /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.Notifications.

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Mike, Thank you for the slight clarification (I admit I didn't read the whole thread). It seems like your real problem is not what this bug is described as. Would you change the description of your bug? Or, did you already file one for the breaking of ubuntu-desktop? In my dealings with Ubuntu, I

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, Derek White wrote: >> Most of us are angry because it is flagged as "Wishlist" and not > "Bug". > > Well, it's not a bug - plain and simple. There is no code in the program > for moving the notification, so how can there be a bug that doesn't > inherent preferences? That's like

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Most of us are angry because it is flagged as "Wishlist" and not "Bug". Well, it's not a bug - plain and simple. There is no code in the program for moving the notification, so how can there be a bug that doesn't inherent preferences? That's like saying "When I installed Amarok, it didn't import

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Not to mention that you force code that's no-where NEAR complete down the pipes to people who expect a release to have pretty proven code. I will not "wait" for developers to finish, that's what the dev-cycle of this release was for. They should have offered this replacement as experimental and

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

You get it wrong Derek. We do not complain that it takes too long until notify-osd is fixed. Most of us are angry because it is flagged as "Wishlist" and not "Bug". It means the developer say "It's okay so and when we find time we will look if we can take care of your wish that the new notificat

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Now, for everyone complaining: This is a new program. Further releases will update/expand the functionality. I am, however, surprised that there have been no updates to it since jaunty was released; but, then again, it's only been what, 6 weeks? If you don't like the new program, install another

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

after reading most of the aforementioned posts.. i doubt if anyone posted the small fact (among the lack of the notifications' positioning) that they're not themed correctly. When i change the ICON theme set to be different than the default HUMAN theme, the theme is changed, and not for the better

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I still cannot believe that this ->bug<- is tagged as wishlist. This is odd. I like the new notification style. All I want to change is the position and I don't want to be forced to take the old stuff. This is really odd. Where is the Ubuntu feeling I loved where we could choose how we want it and

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Notifications from signing on/off in pidgin can be disabled trough pidgin (Tools / Plugins / Libnotify popups / Configure Plugin). Reverting to the old notification system can easily be done by installing gnome-stracciatella-session, then log out and finally selecting "GNOME (without Ubuntu specif

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I read the first half of the comments, and felt the pain of other users. I'll post this first in hopes that it's useful to someone, to stop the Notify-OSD (because you can't uninstall it without breaking ubuntu-desktop) type this in a terminal: sudo mv /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.freedesktop.

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

In my opinion this should be marked as bug and not just a wishlist. Lack of customization is really becomes a BAD, bad , BAD thing from the stuff ubuntu is inventing lately. This reminds me of the UME_launcher which was always a great idea but with almost no customization options whatsoever. It i

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

This notification system completely breaks any NX connection that isn't on a gigabit connection. It also maxes out a CPU core on my server to render the translucent fade. Was this tested at all in any kind of multiuser environment? -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpa

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Just adding to this - I see no way of (and read its not possible) to change the position of the notify-osd.. Considering we are trying to get as man users as possible off windows systems and onto Ubuntu - we customize the interface to fit what they were previously used to. That means the very fir

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Echoing rubberglove to some degree, having the notifications statically positioned removes some the utility of notify-osd for me versus notification-daemon. I have a _preference_ for the position of notifications, as opposed to any visual impairment as mentioned earlier. It irks me slightly that t

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

(Specifically, bug 331369.) -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

the multiscreen case is an another topic and there is other bugs about the issue -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing lis

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I'd just like to say that forcing the notifications at the top of the screen renders them useless for me -- not because I have a special preference for the bottom vs top corner, or because I want things to 'go back to how they were', or even because I want to be able to configure everything all the

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

oups.. I quoted the wrong person, sorry mate ;-) I meant David Barth -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bug

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

As I suspect you're using my version of osd-notify, you should try "make uninstall". As I didn't change the any makefiles this will work if it worked for the original package. But be aware that it might be a design decision not to be able to uninstall this peace of software. In that case you could

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

@jucs Sorry but what does this mean? If I want the notifications to appear at the right bottom, I need to do a step backwards and use the old notification-daemon and the new one will not be customizeable for "a long time" (or maybe never)? So tell me how I can uninstall notify-osd. I dislike to

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

>@ktp420: notify-osd is the result of different design decisions. >We understand and acknowledge that this may not match the > work habits of all of our users, and that's why the straciatella session > mechanism exists. I can't understand that cource of argumenation. It might be a design decision

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

@ktp420: notify-osd is the result of different design decisions. We understand and acknowledge that this may not match the work habits of all of our users, and that's why the straciatella session mechanism exists. If you prefer to have notifications at a specific position or with one of the config

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 21:02:00 + > From: seb...@ubuntu.com > To: ktp...@live.com > Subject: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference > > the softwares are different the upstream mode allow to not use ubuntu > changes for people who want the upstr

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

the softwares are different the upstream mode allow to not use ubuntu changes for people who want the upstream experience, that's not limited to the notification bubbles and not a sign that one is better, they are just a difference experience -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 17:50:15 + > From: seb...@ubuntu.com > To: ktp...@live.com > Subject: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference > > nothing has been dropped, a new software has been written which doesn't > have as many option that the pr

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 16:00:08 - Sebastien Bacher wrote: > whatever change you do you will always who prefered the previous way, > it's easy to find rants about any software change that doesn't mean > that the changes don't make sense Clearly, you didn't bother to take the time to actually rea

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

nothing has been dropped, a new software has been written which doesn't have as many option that the previous one, which is normal for a new software, feature might be added in next version the number of comment there is not especially disturbing or high no, there is some vocal people but that's t

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> whatever change you do you will always who prefered the previous way, > it's easy to find rants about any software change that doesn't mean that > the changes don't make sense > It is clear that you have not read the article. Everyone has rights to rants, if that is what you want to call it,

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

It's obvious by the size of this thread that you've upset far more people than you anticipated. Why can't we come to a solution that will let everyone have what they want and include some configuration options? On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 12:00 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > > You can read the forums

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> You can read the forums or this article for an example whatever change you do you will always who prefered the previous way, it's easy to find rants about any software change that doesn't mean that the changes don't make sense -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.ne

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 09:52:08 + > From: seb...@ubuntu.com > To: ktp...@live.com > Subject: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference > > in reply to the comments about notify-osd being rushed, it's stable and > working fine according to th

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Several users in this thread either don't know C, or don't have the time. So they cannot help & provide this missing functionality, usability/accessibility bug. Call it how you want. The one person who has effectively done something, is scared to even propose his work for inclusion, as (I guess) he

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> ridiculous to offer me a settings program to switch the location of notifications if it doesn't do anything. notify-osd has no such software and the notification-daemon one is not listed in the menus in jaunty -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

in reply to the comments about notify-osd being rushed, it's stable and working fine according to the testing and user feedback, it might not be flexible enough for some users but features can't always be added immediatly and notification-daemon for those who feel they can't work without those opti

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

what a number of non useful rant, notification-daemon can still be install and used on jaunty, do you real need to make such much ranting for some kilobytes notify-osd takes on disk when still installed? there is gnome-stracciatella-session available to give you an "upstream session", ie you can se

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:17:57 + > From: mat.tomaszew...@canonical.com > To: ktp...@live.com > Subject: Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference > > Julian, thanks for being the first person who, instead of complaing, > actually did something

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 22:30:51 - jucs wrote: > you're absolutely right that I did not use the best way to spread my > changes. But still, I'm not sure, if it would be such a good idea to > put this up here openly - even though I think I didn't do any harm > (such as memory leaks or so), I'm sur

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Dear Michael, you're absolutely right that I did not use the best way to spread my changes. But still, I'm not sure, if it would be such a good idea to put this up here openly - even though I think I didn't do any harm (such as memory leaks or so), I'm sure the developers would kill me if they saw

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

First things first: jucs, can you put a debdiff up here? Or at the very least a patch against current "apt-get source"? Thank you! On Fri, 17 Apr 2009 20:17:57 - Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > Julian, thanks for being the first person who, instead of complaing, > actually did something. Some o

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

@Mat: thanks for listening, I for one will now look forward to the option to configure the dialogs and I will point anyone else I hear complaining to your response. But as has been pointed out, we're not all C developers, so there's little else non-coders or non-C-coders *can* do. Nor is anyone s

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Mat: I would love to do something if I could code C. So what can we "Non C Coders" do? Complain and wait. I readed the comments of the other developers and they sounded kinda arrogant "It's so, live with it!". Don't believe that we are not patient, now that we heard from you, that our voice is not

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

jucs wrote: > Hi there! > > I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 today and also hated to be forced to have > those notifications on the top of the screen, even though I have my only > panel on the bottom. > > I did not want to wait until you may make your decision; so fixed it > myself. As I am a C-beginne

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Hi there! I've upgraded to Ubuntu 9.04 today and also hated to be forced to have those notifications on the top of the screen, even though I have my only panel on the bottom. I did not want to wait until you may make your decision; so fixed it myself. As I am a C-beginner my solution is too ugly

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I agree with all of the sentiments here. It's simply staggering that so much effort is having to be spent to make developers accept that this is a usability issue - pure and simple. On a 24" screen at 1920x1200, I cannot see the top right corner of the screen at all when working in a window on th

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Here's my initial reaction to the package: Cute, well thought out. It isn't too intrusive, and blends well with the themes I use. Now, how do I get them to appear outside of my blind spot ??? I go delving through the system menu, nothing there. Great. Yet another Gnome thing who's configuration i

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

It is ridiculous to go backwards in functionality; it is even more ridiculous to offer me a settings program to switch the location of notifications if it doesn't do anything. Please, offer the functionality of previous offerings, and allow us to specify where the notifications appear, and which di

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I am also a person who dislikes that the notifications appear at the upper right corner. I cannot believe that this -> bug <- is set as "wishlist" because in my eyes, it's not a wish of mine, it's a real bug. I was really surprised as I readed the answers of the developers. Do you guys really think

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I'm very glad that this bug has been opened for discussion. I for one do not have a Gnome panel running... I just use AWN. So there is no panel to get a position from. Because of the way I have my monitors set up, I'd definitely like to be able to choose a position for notifications. I think th

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Thank you Mat and Ubuntu developers to take our remarks into consideration, this reopening is a good news. For the moment I installed gnome-stracciatella-session, it works fine on Jaunty and allows me to have the notifications on bottom right, but I will look closely to the future of notify-osd fo

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

since developers want to hear about different setups>>> i have a single panel on the right[since i have a widescreen] and makes no sense when the notification appears on top i had the notifications demon set to the bottom right since it was my usual habitual place to look for notifications in wi

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Mon, 06 Apr 2009 11:54:07 - Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > Thanks everyone for the comments. > > The balance between configurability and making software reliable, > elegant and efficient is always very tricky. Michael, your problems > with peripheral vision are a valid signal that there may be

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Turning that into "whishlist" to let the discussion continue outside of the release process for 9.04. ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification becaus

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed ** Changed in: notify-osd (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preference https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346095 You received this bug notification because you are a mem

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Thanks everyone for the comments. The balance between configurability and making software reliable, elegant and efficient is always very tricky. Michael, your problems with peripheral vision are a valid signal that there may be a design issue there. Thanks for bringing this up. Notify OSD is a br

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Hello, I fully agree with Michael and other users : I also moved the systray to the bottom of my screen, I only have this panel, and I'd like to see the notifications on the right-bottom corner. Now, with a 22' screen, on the top-right, most often I do not notice them, so there are useless and it

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I understand that this is something new. I don't expect a vast array of options already, but the basics should be there. At this point, I would think choosing a corner is satisfactory for most of us. Different people prefer different workflows, and one of the best things about Linux is that it l

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Bug status: invalid ?? Another great opportunity to quote Linus - This "users are idiots, and are confused by functionality" mentality of Gnome is a disease. If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it. I don't use Gnome, because in striving to be simple, it has long since rea

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

In future versions of Ubuntu, there will be fewer and fewer icons in the notification area that are related to notification bubbles. If you are using Ubuntu in a right-to-left language, the bubbles already appear in the top left rather than the top right. -- notify-osd doesn't honor my preferenc

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

In my opinion, the notifications should appear in the corner of the screen that is closer to the notification area (or the indicator applet, I still have not made a decision). Since many of the notifications have an icon in those areas (say Apport, Empathy, Evolution...), it would be faster and les

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I find the developer response to this bug report both insulting and comical... You seriously... are comparing a notifier application to OpenOffice or evolution? I think you have slightly distorted view on things if you believe that you must make up for the sins of others by chopping your own leg

RE: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:00:53 + > From: m...@canonical.com > To: ktp...@live.com > Subject: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference > > Sure. Every extra option makes the interface more complex, which reduces > learnability and memorability for

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:00:53 - Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > That doesn't mean all options are bad. Sometimes an option would > improve efficiency or satisfaction for some fraction of existing or > potential users; and the improvement and the fraction may, together, > be large enough to outwei

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Sure. Every extra option makes the interface more complex, which reduces learnability and memorability for the system as a whole. (In pathological cases it can reduce efficiency too, if popular options are buried alongside obscure options in a deep hierarchy. Evolution's and OpenOffice.org's prefer

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I have a question...on one of your blog you have following: http://mpt.net.nz/archive/2008/08/11/usability It’s unhelpful because usability has multiple components: * Learnability — how easily a beginner can use the system, and how easily they can become an expert. * Efficiency — how qu

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Scaine, those indeed would be useful bug reports. I don't know whether the ubuntu-desktop packaging issue is practical to fix (AFAICT you get the same problem if you try to uninstall evince because you prefer xpdf, or if you try to uninstall gedit because you prefer geany, etc), but the other packa

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Pardon my inexperience with launchpad, but if this bug has been marked as "invalid", does that effectively close discussion? I notice that the status has not been changed to "wontfix", so is this still a valid bug. If not, has another bug against usability regarding this issue been created and can

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Just a few other comments. First, my tone was much to harsh earlier. Sorry. It is really, _really_ aggrivating to be told "your case doesn't matter to [us/me?] because it's just a small thing, no big deal, right?", especially when the "case" in question is something directly linked to how I am ab

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 13:15:02 - Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > It's very common for replacement components to have different levels > of configurability from what they are replacing. For example, if we > decided to replace Pidgin with Empathy as the default IM client, that > wouldn't in itself m

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

It's very common for replacement components to have different levels of configurability from what they are replacing. For example, if we decided to replace Pidgin with Empathy as the default IM client, that wouldn't in itself mean Empathy was wrong not to offer a "Use smooth-scrolling" option or a

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I have to agree with Mike. Also what kind of message this is sending to the user target that Ubuntu is intended for: "The beauty of free software is that you can modify it if you want to, to best suit your needs..." Average user is not going to be or will want to rebuild things. -- notify-osd

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:32:27 - Mat Tomaszewski wrote: > No need for such harsh tone and strong emotions just because your > question was misunderstood. > > We designed the notification system with the default setting (panel > at the top) in mind. The beauty of free software is that you can

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Michael B. Trausch wrote: > On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:02:03 - > Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > > >> We are sorry that Jaunty alpha 5 accidentally shipped with the >> "Notification Settings" utility that applied only to notification- >> daemon, when 9.04 is not going to ship with notification-dae

Re: [Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 10:02:03 - Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > We are sorry that Jaunty alpha 5 accidentally shipped with the > "Notification Settings" utility that applied only to notification- > daemon, when 9.04 is not going to ship with notification-daemon. But > this mistake has been fixed

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

We are sorry that Jaunty alpha 5 accidentally shipped with the "Notification Settings" utility that applied only to notification- daemon, when 9.04 is not going to ship with notification-daemon. But this mistake has been fixed since before alpha 6 (bug 332014). So this is not a regression: the bubb

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

Just happened across this quote from Mark Shuttleworth's blog: You can’t click on the notifications, we don’t have a “dismiss” button, and we don’t support actions (buttons) on the notifications. As for size, the size is based on your system font settings. They are designed not to take too much sp

[Bug 346095] Re: notify-osd doesn't honor my preference

I too would also like to suggest that notify-osd should allow configuration of where the notifications show on screen. Currently, notify-osd assumes that everyone has their panel at the top of the screen and places them below the panel. However, I only have one panel at the bottom of the screen, ye