Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Glyph
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 11:02 PM, Amber Hawkie Brown > wrote: > > Russ has informed me that it's accessible on > https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com/blob/master/djangoproject/templates/conduct/index.html > >

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Amber "Hawkie" Brown
Russ has informed me that it's accessible on https://github.com/django/djangoproject.com/blob/master/djangoproject/templates/conduct/index.html -- so we could potentially fork the repo and make it just that file or so :) Amber "Hawkie" Brown GPG: https://keybase.io/hawkowl > On 24 Jun 2015, at

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Amber "Hawkie" Brown
> On 24 Jun 2015, at 10:12, Glyph wrote: > >>> Why isn't this a fork of an existing CoC? > > I agree that this is a problem. Django does not appear to have their CoC in > an easily-forkable format. Perhaps we should contact the Django project and > ask them to rectify that so that we can ma

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread David Reid
I definitely meant "I don't think that should block adoption". -David On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Glyph wrote: > > On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:49 PM, David Reid wrote: > > So while it'd be nice for the PSF CoC to be updated such that it was > enforceable I think that should block adoption of a

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Glyph
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 1:49 PM, David Reid wrote: > > So while it'd be nice for the PSF CoC to be updated such that it was > enforceable I think that should block adoption of a CoC by the Twisted > Project. I hope that you meant >> I don't think that should block adoption… unless you meant

Re: [Twisted-Python] Deferring 201 status code

2015-06-23 Thread Glyph
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 10:17 AM, Vikas Kumar wrote: > > Hi, > > My controller code first updates DB and then sends out 201 status code > indicating it is done updating in DB. > Issue is somebody waiting to fetch this update from DB will not work > immediately because DB update takes some time

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Clayton Daley
I'm not picky which CoC we use, but the fact that upstream requires approval shouldn't disqualify PSF. Part of my argument is that our contributions benefit a larger community. If PSF needs an enforcement clause, they might be more than willing to adopt the change -- and a bigger community would ce

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread David Reid
While it should not in theory be difficult to update the PSF CoC, in practice I expect it would be quite difficult for the simple reason that: "This document was approved by the membership of the Python Software Foundation during the vote which concluded on 19 April 2013." Implying that any updat

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Apologies...editing while on a call. On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:51 PM, Steve Waterbury wrote: > On 06/23/2015 03:31 PM, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: >> >> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:59 AM, David Reid wrote: >>> >>> I'm going to come out strongly against using the PSF CoC. It is woefully >>> inade

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Steve Waterbury
On 06/23/2015 03:31 PM, Jason J. W. Williams wrote: On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:59 AM, David Reid wrote: I'm going to come out strongly against using the PSF CoC. It is woefully inadequate, it includes no mechanisms for reporting, and as any PSF member who has been on certain mailing lists knows

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:59 AM, David Reid wrote: > I'm going to come out strongly against using the PSF CoC. It is woefully > inadequate, it includes no mechanisms for reporting, and as any PSF member > who has been on certain mailing lists knows it is actually completely > unenforceable. Enfo

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread David Reid
I'm going to come out strongly against using the PSF CoC. It is woefully inadequate, it includes no mechanisms for reporting, and as any PSF member who has been on certain mailing lists knows it is actually completely unenforceable. -David On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Stephen Thorne wrote:

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Stephen Thorne wrote: > http://bit.ly/psf-coc I like the PSF code of conduct. It's readable, and covers the bases with an emphasis on civility and respect. -J ___ Twisted-Python mailing list Twisted-Python@twistedmatr

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Stephen Thorne
I agree with Clayton's points. Please pick a code of conduct that others have used. Avoid the desire to specialize. I like the PSF code of conduct, http://bit.ly/psf-coc but any well regarded CoC will do. Stephen. On Tue, 23 Jun 2015 at 19:23 Clayton Daley wrote: > Not that I'm a heavy contrib

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread Clayton Daley
Not that I'm a heavy contributor, but: - A CoC is like a ToS in many ways. They rarely get read until there's a problem. - A CoC is like a License in many ways. They should be pretty standard infrastructure. I think both of these facts argue for joining Twisted to an existing CoC. N

[Twisted-Python] Deferring 201 status code

2015-06-23 Thread Vikas Kumar
Hi, My controller code first updates DB and then sends out 201 status code indicating it is done updating in DB. Issue is somebody waiting to fetch this update from DB will not work immediately because DB update takes some time(approximately 0.5 second) to come into effect. Is there a way I can c

Re: [Twisted-Python] Proposal -- Code of Conduct

2015-06-23 Thread John Santos
Hi everyone, I am sure everyone understands that the Twisted community would love more diversity. While it is hard to achieve, it should be easy to remove one of the obvious blockers -- making underrepresented groups feel more welcome. I think, and hope, that our IRC channel, our issue system an