Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-23 Thread Beverly Guillermo
On Tue, 22 Feb 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: > Each package has a /opt//etc etc Do you have to put the path of the program in your global path or do you have to write the path with the program? I'm just being lazy... Beverly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-23 Thread vanessa smale
Still me, still hopelessly catching up As a resident of Pennsylvania, Ive never seen a Meijer's around here, although we do have some really big K-marts and Wal*Marts:) BUT since my fiance is from the hickvilles of Michigan, and they just built a brand spankin new Meijer's there, i HAVE be

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-22 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Tue, Feb 22, 2000 at 07:54:05AM -0500, Beverly Guillermo wrote: > On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: > > > The "standard" way of doing it is to have the distribution install > > everything in /usr, while leaving it up to the user to install stuff > > in /usr/local > > I believe there is a

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-22 Thread Beverly Guillermo
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: > The "standard" way of doing it is to have the distribution install > everything in /usr, while leaving it up to the user to install stuff > in /usr/local I believe there is a way to change the installation directory using a RPM option, is there not? If n

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-22 Thread Beverly Guillermo
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey Beverly, > What I meant by that (paths) was the proposed FSSTND. RH even publishes > it in their manuals and then deviates from it. It is a matter of personal > choice and from that vantage point I can understand. However, what keeps > poeple f

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread moebius
Hey Beverly, What I meant by that (paths) was the proposed FSSTND. RH even publishes it in their manuals and then deviates from it. It is a matter of personal choice and from that vantage point I can understand. However, what keeps poeple from easily following along is reading docs about things

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:29:33PM -0500, Beverly Guillermo wrote: > The thing is that you can configure your system to have the "standardized" > installation or not. If it's not a system program, I generally place new > programs in /usr/local ... I think it's a matter of personal choice. =) >

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Beverly Guillermo
The thing is that you can configure your system to have the "standardized" installation or not. If it's not a system program, I generally place new programs in /usr/local ... I think it's a matter of personal choice. =) Beverly On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Claudine Chionh
Some time in the past, Dan Nguyen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit, > Woody's not necessarily going to be 2.3. > > Diclaimer: This email may or may not represent me or debian, so if you > plan on flaming me, be kind. If you plan on using this in some debian > related story, please don't. That's

Re: [OFF TOPIC] (was: Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions)

2000-02-21 Thread Robert Kiesling
> On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:34:33 -0500 (EST), Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > > >What?!? When did they do that? I've always known myself as a > >Michigander by birth -- who am I now? > > I was told once that a woman from Michigan was a "Michigoose." Yes, and the plural is "Michigooses." :) I

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Rik Hemsley
#if Bad Mojo > > It appears to be hidden forces that want to make things so complicated > > that they don't work anymore... > > Gravity? Gravity is in fact very simple. I'm intending publishing my paper on how it works sometime, so keep that Nobel prize polished... Rik -- Rent a cop. ***

[OFF TOPIC] (was: Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions)

2000-02-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 14:34:33 -0500 (EST), Cat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >What?!? When did they do that? I've always known myself as a >Michigander by birth -- who am I now? I was told once that a woman from Michigan was a "Michigoose." Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxc

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Robert Kiesling
> What?!? When did they do that? I've always known myself as a Michigander > by birth -- who am I now? :-p If they've changed it that would be OK with > me -- I have not met one person who hasn't begun regarding me with doubt > and suspicion when I've used that word in front of them. And then

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 20-Feb-100 Re: [techtalk] Differences .. by Telsa [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Laurel was collecting experiences of installing and running different > distributions, wasn't she? Did anything come of that? I only got a few, so I've been holding off until I get enough to make a me

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Cat
> > They sure would! But we say "Michiganian" also, as you know, and they > changed all of those neat Yes! signs over the freeways. Of course, What?!? When did they do that? I've always known myself as a Michigander by birth -- who am I now? :-p If they've changed it that would be OK with m

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Robert Kiesling
Amanda Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hope there's hope for Meijer's down here in ACC country. There are 3 > major universities within a 20 mile radius pretty much right around my > house here in North Carolina, and I'm sure a Meijer's would do *far* > better than any Super K-Mart or any o

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Robert Kiesling
Bad Mojo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The same thing isn't happening to Linux. While I can't run a Solaris > binary on an AIX machine, I can run a RedHat binary on a Suse machine. And > besides, the previous fragmentation wasn't bad. The problem was each > vendor tied the software directly to

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Amanda Owens
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Robert Kiesling wrote: > They do indeed. The very same. Meijers started up here, I guess, so > maybe they've had the opportunity to have things like that. Then > again, this is a university town, so, it's a hacker heaven anyway. > I hope there's hope for Meijer's down her

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Caitlyn Martin
> The classic example is KDE and GNOME. SuSE makes use of the /opt > hierarchy for these. Red Hat puts them in /usr/share. Debian puts > GNOME in /usr. I don't know about Caldera: perhaps /opt? Does it > even ship GNOME? This causes Religious Wars. Nope, Caldera ships with KDE only. However, the

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Bad Mojo
On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > Of course, my question is -- why? With linux it was a chance of having > a united environment, after the bad experience of 10 zillion different > unix version, all he same but all different. :-( > And now the same thing is happening with linux. Th

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Tania M. Morell
"Tania M. Morell" wrote: > > Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > Another example, Apache by default > > > stores most things in /usr/local, RH is in /etc/, same with Mandrake, > > > Caldera (I believe goes with Apache). The list goes on. > > > > Of course, my qu

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Tania M. Morell
Karolina Lindqvist wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > Another example, Apache by default > > stores most things in /usr/local, RH is in /etc/, same with Mandrake, > > Caldera (I believe goes with Apache). The list goes on. > > Of course, my question is -- why? With linux it was a chance

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Beverly Guillermo
Well, I don't really mind as long as Patrick offers a good product. The only reason for the jump was that he was tired of people asking him when Slack was going to catch up with Redhat. Besides, some people never thought glibc2 was gonna be the next thing for the libraries. And if you wanted it

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Karolina Lindqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Another example, Apache by default > stores most things in /usr/local, RH is in /etc/, same with Mandrake, > Caldera (I believe goes with Apache). The list goes on. Of course, my question is -- why? With linux it was a chance of having a united environment, after th

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Robert Kiesling
Amanda Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They actually have Linux at Meijer's? Wow, I'm impressed. > > (Assuming, of course, this is the same Meijer's that I'm thinking it is - > the one-stop-shopping mecca of the Midwest. Boy, do I miss Meijer's...) They do indeed. The very same. Meijers st

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 09:02:59 -0500 (EST), Amanda Owens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >They actually have Linux at Meijer's? Wow, I'm impressed. They have it at Wal-Mart now, too. Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000 10:06:38 +, Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >It really really was confusing a lot of people. At the time, SuSE was >apparently a version ahead of Red Hat, (as ever :) I think it was >then SuSE 6.1 and Red Hat 6.0), and yet everyone kept talking about >2.2/2.3/2.4 to

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 10:13:05PM +1100, Claudine Chionh wrote: > Some time in the past, Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit, > > > I thought the Slackware version jump was > > done for an excellent reason: I too heard the "Because I'm fed up > > of being asked why Slackware is behind!"

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Amanda Owens
On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Robert Kiesling wrote: > > Oops. I knew that. I guess I meant that Red Hat was the first > distribution to use RPM packages, and to make it onto the shelves of > regular stores, like Compu[Add|World|Plus], or Meijer's. But I was > typing in a hurry. Slackware first appear

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Claudine Chionh
Some time in the past, Telsa Gwynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scripsit, > I thought the Slackware version jump was > done for an excellent reason: I too heard the "Because I'm fed up > of being asked why Slackware is behind!" story :) But I haven't seen the same question being asked about Debian (hi

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 03:57:27AM -0500 or thereabouts, Dan Nguyen wrote: > On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 07:15:16PM +1300, Jamie Walker wrote: > > As for the version jump - by all accounts after too many questions about > > "When are you going to upgrade to Linux 6.0 like Redhat have?" he > > decided

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 09:39:20PM -0500 or thereabouts, Tania M. Morell wrote: > Hi all, > > I've used Berkeley unix and SunOS for years at my university but not > linux. I use Mandrake at work and RedHat intermittently at home but I've > yet to understand the differences between them.. Maybe I

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-21 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Mon, Feb 21, 2000 at 07:15:16PM +1300, Jamie Walker wrote: > As for the version jump - by all accounts after too many questions about > "When are you going to upgrade to Linux 6.0 like Redhat have?" he > decided to join the party with inflated version numbers, just like many > of the others hav

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread moebius
Hey Jaimie, Still have that version here at home. (hehe) Harry > of the others have. (ie, RH's first version was v3 if I remember > correctly). [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread moebius
Hey Dan, I hear you there. But Slack will always have a soft spot for me. It was the headaches and long nights of trying to install Slack 1.? that woke me up from using brain-dead OS's. Harry On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, Dan Nguyen wrote: > On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 10:47:24PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread Jamie Walker
Dan Nguyen wrote: > I've been very disappointed in Slackware, lately. Originally for not > support glibc2, and then for their silly version jump from 4.0 to 7.0. The lack of glibc2 support was apparently for stability reasons. I've been using glibc2 for the last year and had no problems with it

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread Robert Kiesling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey All, > Slackware was around before redhat, it's just got a lot less publicity > nowadays. Oops. I knew that. I guess I meant that Red Hat was the first distribution to use RPM packages, and to make it onto the shelves of regular stores, like Compu[Add|World|Plus

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Sun, Feb 20, 2000 at 10:47:24PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hey All, > Slackware was around before redhat, it's just got a lot less publicity > nowadays. > I've been very disappointed in Slackware, lately. Originally for not support glibc2, and then for their silly version jump from 4.0

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread moebius
Hey All, Slackware was around before redhat, it's just got a lot less publicity nowadays. On Sun, 20 Feb 2000, Robert Kiesling wrote: > I'll try to explain this as coherently as possible. Caldera and > Mandrake are very similar to Red Hat, which was the original. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread Robert Kiesling
"Tania M. Morell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What are the main differences between distributions of linux like > RedHat, Mandrake, Debian, Caldera... etc. Can anyone tell me? I'll try to explain this as coherently as possible. Caldera and Mandrake are very similar to Red Hat, which was the

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-20 Thread aprilk
Tania M. Morell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Hi all, > >I've used Berkeley unix and SunOS for years at my university but not >linux. I use Mandrake at work and RedHat intermittently at home but I've >yet to understand the differences between them.. Maybe I haven't used >them long enough to figure

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-19 Thread Dan Nguyen
On Sat, Feb 19, 2000 at 09:39:20PM -0500, Tania M. Morell wrote: > I've used Berkeley unix and SunOS for years at my university but not > linux. I use Mandrake at work and RedHat intermittently at home but I've > yet to understand the differences between them.. Maybe I haven't used > them long en

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-19 Thread moebius
Hey Tania, Jenn, The differences are large which is probably why you haven't seen them stated before. Essentially what it boils down to are two things. File System Standards and packaging. For example, RedHat uses it own standard that is somewhat complient with the proposed FSSTND and Caldera us

Re: [techtalk] Differences between linux distributions

2000-02-19 Thread Jenn V.
"Tania M. Morell" wrote: > > Hi all, > > I've used Berkeley unix and SunOS for years at my university but not > linux. I use Mandrake at work and RedHat intermittently at home but I've > yet to understand the differences between them.. Maybe I haven't used > them long enough to figure it out, o