Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 20-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] GUI's by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I've been trying to follow the whole KDE/GNOME fiasco, and I was seeing > down the road GNOME merging with KDE, because of the whole licensing > resolution with the QT 2.0 set. It's now perfectly GPL, I thought and

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:45:06 -0400, Brendan/Coolian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >I've been trying to follow the whole KDE/GNOME fiasco, and I was >seeing down the road GNOME merging with KDE, because of the whole >licensing resolution with the QT 2.0 set. This won't happen, for a variety of tech

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Brendan/Coolian
>Regardless of whether you can imagine it or not KDE and GNOME >are on their way to take over the (Linux on the Desktop-) world. I've been trying to follow the whole KDE/GNOME fiasco, and I was seeing down the road GNOME merging with KDE, because of the whole licensing resolution with the QT 2

[techtalk] Supply/Demand

1999-10-20 Thread Ian Hall-Beyer
After all, a given product service is worth as much (or as little) as you can sucker someone into paying for it/selling it. Ain't capitalism wonderful? -Ian -- wow, this is kinda nifty. the win98 protocol stack is like a chinese finger puzzle, twist and turn in the right places, and it pops

Re: [moving off topic...] Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Tamara Thompson
This is getting off topic. Also, it is annoying enough to have almost caused me to write my *opinion*. And I hate it when I waste others time on my *opinions*. But if anyone knows the best place online to get affordable memory,I'd also planned a near future upgrade, but have now postpone

Re: [moving off topic...] Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Sio
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Kelly Lynn Martin wrote: > On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT), Vinnie Surmonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >said: > > >Not exactly irrational -- law of supply and demand. More people want > >those seats at christimas than in june, so the airlines can get away > >with chargin

Re: [techtalk] Alternatives to X?

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:40:47 -0400 (EDT), Laurel Fan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Has anyone actually used Y or Berlin, etc? As far as I know, both are entirely or virtually entirely vapor. :) Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

[moving off topic...] Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Kelly Lynn Martin
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:56:08 -0700 (PDT), Vinnie Surmonde <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >Not exactly irrational -- law of supply and demand. More people want >those seats at christimas than in june, so the airlines can get away >with charging more (ditto RAM and just about everything else) We have a

Re: [techtalk] Alternatives to X?

1999-10-20 Thread Aaron Malone
> Has anyone actually used Y or Berlin, etc? (For that matter, where are > their websites? "Y" and "Berlin" seem to be way to generic to find with > a search engine...) You can find Berlin (which has the best logo of any windowing system, IMO), at: http://www.berlin-consortium.org/ -- Aaron Ma

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Jeff Dike
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > >Do they layer on top of the X-windows environment? What is their use? > >Is there someplace someone could direct me to learn more about this? > Tell me about it. I still don't get it. There is a set of layers that looks like this (usually): Sessions A

[techtalk] Alternatives to X?

1999-10-20 Thread Laurel Fan
Has anyone actually used Y or Berlin, etc? (For that matter, where are their websites? "Y" and "Berlin" seem to be way to generic to find with a search engine...) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

RE: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread Ian Hall-Beyer
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, jennifer wrote: > I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were > saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that > excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. Indeed, if that much. However, I

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
Am 10/20/99, 9:08:51 PM, schrieb Brendan/Coolian: > I just stick with KDE, as I believe it'll be taking over > the world. Never mind! ;-) Regardless of whether you can imagine it or not KDE and GNOME are on their way to take over the (Linux on the Desktop-) world. There are great advantages i

Re: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread Brendan/Coolian
>You shouldn't have to spend more than $30 for a good brand (Netgear?) NIC. >( http://www.onsale.com/category/inv/00038645/02017876.htm Not Why not something like the Ethernet XL by 3com? [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Brendan/Coolian
>Yup, this is one of the biggest problems people moving to Linux have, >I think. Don't forget that there are various breeds of X as well, as >well as Y and Berlin out there. :) I think it's easiest to think of it as just different programs running in different environments. Win3.1 apps runni

Re: [techtalk] GUI's

1999-10-20 Thread Brendan/Coolian
>Do they layer on top of the X-windows environment? What is their use? >Is there someplace someone could direct me to learn more about this? Tell me about it. I still don't get it. I use KDE, and the way I think about it is that it doesn't replace X, it lays on top of it and conforms to all o

Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Vinnie Surmonde
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Just This Girl wrote: > Perhaps it can be tied to the irrational seasonal phenomena of airline > tickets doubling or more for flights near major holidays. (I fail to see > how the same seat on the same plane going the same place costs an > airline more at Christmas then it do

Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Sio
On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Just This Girl wrote: > Perhaps it can be tied to the irrational seasonal phenomena of airline > tickets doubling or more for flights near major holidays. (I fail to see > how the same seat on the same plane going the same place costs an > airline more at Christmas then it d

RE: [techtalk] Rising RAM prices (was: Would like advice on building system)

1999-10-20 Thread Jane Susi
> well ram prices have been going up for the last two months...about two > months ago, you could have a gotten a stick of 128 MB PC100 ram for about > $120, now it's about $250 at some of the cheaper places, unless you can find > it on sale at some place like pricewatch, and then it's usually one

Re: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Mike and Mary Anne Cox
In installed Linux on my secondary hard drive and I use lilo to boot. I didn't install any portion of Linux on my master Hard drive. If you do this though, when you want to run linux you'll need to do boot with a floppy. I did it that way because of my paranoia with Windows :) I'm too much

[techtalk] RE: advice on building a system

1999-10-20 Thread Shelly L. Hokanson
Is it realistic to expect to build a nice system for $1200 or so? hi cathy, very realistic. i'm a tech at a place that custom builds whitebox pc's for people and businesses, and even our high end non-PNP systems start around $600 (without monitor or O/S, though provided O/S's are installed f

RE: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Samantha Jo Moore
Ericka, > I finally got around, last night, to cleaning off my second hard drive in > preparation of installing linux & I have a few questions before I start. > One is: Is there any overwhelming reason that I should get the very > latest version of linux, or would installing an older one be ok?

Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread kev
Cathy James wrote: > >I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were > >saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that > >excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. > I don't know what % Taiwan supplies the UK wi

Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread J B
The real reason, the bottom line is, THE BOTTOM LINE. They raised prices because they thought that the market would stand it. It is obvious that the market will not. >I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were >saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the suppl

Re: [techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Just This Girl
Cathy James wrote: > > >I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were > >saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that > >excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. > > I saw a comment by a high muckety

RE: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOPetc.)

1999-10-20 Thread JoAnn Elliott
WEll now, I feel the need to get involved in this one. I have used both, and also Xara and Macromedia Fireworks, ooops, and also briefly Painter (and others along the way). You can pixel paint all you want if you like, but I do not restrict myself to that sort of painting, as I can paint with vect

RE: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Cathy James
>Linux in general, and Red Hat in particular, have come a very long way in >the last couple of years. The GUI is the area which has changed the most >dramatically. With 5.0 you will have neiter Gnome nor KDE, and your >libraries will be old enough that you won't be able to run a modern GUI >wit

[techtalk] Rising RAM Prices

1999-10-20 Thread Cathy James
>I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were >saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that >excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. I saw a comment by a high muckety-muck in *Intel* stating that h

Re: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread jenn
Caitlyn Martin wrote: > My advice: get the latest distro. Want to do it cheap? Go to: > http://www.cheapbytes.com and pick up a copy of Red Hat 6.1 for a few > dollars. Or, if you prefer, Mandrake, SuSe, Debian, et al... Another > alternative is to pick up the November issue of Linux Magazi

RE: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread Janus
At 09:02 AM 10/20/1999 -0500, you wrote: >I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were >saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that >excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. > This would be true, maybe, if

RE: [techtalk] Rising RAM prices (was: Would like advice on building system)

1999-10-20 Thread J B
I've heard theories saying that everyone is upgrading their old PCs to get ready for y2k, and of course, they're upgrading to the most modern stuff, K6-2, P2 and P3 processors, which require PC100 ram, so if the people are willing to pay twice what the ram normally costs, why not raise the pr

RE: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread Amanda Owens
I've been very happy with two motherboards I've purchased recently. At home we run 2 AMD K6-2 350s on FIC 503+ motherboards. This motherboard is *very* nice for AMD chips, and it's Y2K compliant. I'm also running the same chip on a Tyan board at work - I can't remember the exact model. But bot

Re: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Ericka Crouse
Thanks much! I'll take all the advice under advisement. Happy to no longer lurk, Ericka [EMAIL PROTECTED] "There are three degrees of being weird. They are: (1) Salvageably weird. (2) Weird. (3) Irrevocably weird." -Carrie Fisher --http://www.watson.org/~metagnat--

RE: [techtalk] Rising RAM prices (was: Would like advice on building system)

1999-10-20 Thread Brian Engle
well ram prices have been going up for the last two months...about two months ago, you could have a gotten a stick of 128 MB PC100 ram for about $120, now it's about $250 at some of the cheaper places, unless you can find it on sale at some place like pricewatch, and then it's usually one per cust

RE: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Henti Smith
> I finally got around, last night, to cleaning off my second > hard drive in preparation of installing linux & I have a few questions > before I start. > One is: Is there any overwhelming reason that I should get the very > latest version of linux, or would installing an older one be ok? I >

Re: [techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Caitlyn Martin
Hi, Ericka, > I finally got around, last night, to cleaning off my second hard drive in > preparation of installing linux & I have a few questions before I start. > One is: Is there any overwhelming reason that I should get the very > latest version of linux, or would installing an older one be

RE: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread jennifer
I heard that memory prices were going up in the US because companies were saying that the earthquake in Taiwan cut the supply-- the problem with that excuse is that Taiwan only supplies the US with 10% of the chips.. -Jen > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAI

RE: [techtalk] Would like advice on building system

1999-10-20 Thread jennifer
As for motherboards, I'm really happy with my Abit BH-6. You can change voltage and clock speed via software in the bios. I used it with a celleron 300A so that I could easily overclock when I wanted to. -Jen [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

[techtalk] Older versions of distros

1999-10-20 Thread Ericka Crouse
I finally got around, last night, to cleaning off my second hard drive in preparation of installing linux & I have a few questions before I start. One is: Is there any overwhelming reason that I should get the very latest version of linux, or would installing an older one be ok? I already have a

[techtalk] Combine vector and bitmap tools in *one* program? (was: [techtalk] To me it fast becomes a non-technicalissue...(COREL/GIMP/PHOTOSHOP etc.) )

1999-10-20 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
On 10/20/99, 6:06:45 AM, Kelly wrote: > On Tue, 19 Oct 1999 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT), Nicole said: > >It's like the difference between drafting/architecture and > >painting... drafting and painting have their own purposes, > >and can both be done very methodically. Personally, I would > >think it wo