Once I had . in my path, but I took it out. I like not having . in my
path and having to type ./blah. Why?
1) The trojan thing. On any big multiuser system, users will try to do
things to other users. Plus I like looking in other peoples dirs :)
2) When I'm coding, I can always do:
!./
To re
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, you wrote:
>Hello, and thank-you for writing this. I am stashing it for later use. my
>laptop has a modem, not sure it is winmodem or not, it says LT modem and I
>think that may be Lucent Technologies. but when I am ready I will try it.
Yes it's Lucent Technologies and I'm so
Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 [techtalk] newbie questions by
"Shelly L. Hokanson"@hom
> 1 - can multiple distros of linux be dual-booted? can't find that
> answer anywhere, though i'm sure it's a case of
> why-the-heck-would-ya-want-to-do-that... i thought of it out of
> curiosity about t
> hello all
greetings :)
> since i found this list a couple weeks ago, i've had a few questions
> come to mind... probably silly ones, but i'm a winNT admin - turned -
> linux - newbie (of about 6 months now). =)
not a problem at all ... everybody is welcome in the linux family :)
> 1 -
I see somebody already replied with help with your specific modem. I guess
laptop modems and desktop modems are handled a bit differently. I hope you
can get your modem to work.
Regards,
Norma
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mail
> A lot of new concepts are thrown in the face of the new Linux user without
> any introduction and the user has no idea what to do. What we need to realize
> is that anybody who installs an OS on a machine automatically becomes a
> system administrator and without the proper background things a
> Hello, and thank-you for writing this. I am stashing it for later use. my
> laptop has a modem, not sure it is winmodem or not, it says LT modem and I
> think that may be Lucent Technologies. but when I am ready I will try it.
>
> JoAnn
On laptops, unless your modem is external, you're probably
wait a minute
you're right..I apparently can't read
actually, I read all the 3s as 5s...sometimes the automatic error
correction in my brain is annoying :)
Vinnie
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Beverly Guillermo wrote:
>
> > I've seen a runlevel like that
Hi folks,
I have downloaded and installed the latest real audio player (5.0 ?) for my
linux box. I can get their stupid default url to play, and the player will
start when I click on a *.ra link in netscape 4.7, but it won't start to play
any sounds. My sound config seems to be working, or at
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Beverly Guillermo wrote:
> I've seen a runlevel like that in a Solaris environment. =) I've
> never seen that on linux, what are you running?
I know deadrat does it like that (or similarly enough that it's not worth
thinking about :) ) ... what are you running? :)
Vinnie
-
> In the distro I'm using runlevel 3 is the one you enter X automatically
> from. The best advice I can give is to look at /etc/inittab -- there
> should be a list of the runlevels that looks something like this:
>
> # runlevel 0 is halt
> # runlevel S is single-user
> # runlev
JoAnn Elliott wrote:
> well, acutally
> used the ./ns-install as the instructions did not tell me to do a ./ before
> it, but "just this girl" said to use that and it worked.
Ok. For the budding backyard mechanics:
./something
means 'in this directory, run the file something'.
Why is this n
Laurel Fan wrote:
>
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 RE: [techtalk] Is there a K.. by
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I'm just sitting here in awe, thinking about putting everything together
> > and binding it for later use. It looks like Deb's book is on it's way, eh?
>
> It would be great if the
Sure, if you want.
I used to keep them becuase they take so long to download, but its not
necessary.
JoAnn Elliott wrote:
>
> Thanks for the tips. I successfully uninstalled the netscape 4.6 rpm with
> kpackage. I could not locate any rpms for 4.7 so at the command prompt and
> out of x I used
Amanda Knox wrote:
>
> Just This Girl wrote:
>
> > Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> > anything.
>
> Simple question (I hope):
>
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I
hello all
since i found this list a couple weeks ago, i've had a few questions
come to mind... probably silly ones, but i'm a winNT admin - turned -
linux - newbie (of about 6 months now). =)
1 - can multiple distros of linux be dual-booted? can't find that
answer anywhere, though i'm sure
And considering I just wrote that message about an hour ago, I'm very
impressed by the number of detailed messages I've received.
Everyone had some very intelligent, down-to-earth things to say and I kept all
the messages for future reference :)
So thanks again :)
Take care,
Amanda K.
***
Thanks for the tips. I successfully uninstalled the netscape 4.6 rpm with
kpackage. I could not locate any rpms for 4.7 so at the command prompt and
out of x I used the tar command on the .tar.gz file, then installed
according to the install instructions that were in there. well, acutally
used the
Hello, and thank-you for writing this. I am stashing it for later use. my
laptop has a modem, not sure it is winmodem or not, it says LT modem and I
think that may be Lucent Technologies. but when I am ready I will try it.
JoAnn
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL P
Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 RE: [techtalk] Is there a K.. by
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I'm just sitting here in awe, thinking about putting everything together
> and binding it for later use. It looks like Deb's book is on it's way, eh?
It would be great if the book had this type of in depth h
Jack Baker wrote:
>
> I am using X on the Mandrake 6.0...my problem is that I cannot figure out
> how to get to the command line. This is not the only distro I hav ever
> used, but I have never seen this before. When you close X it gives the
> logon screen...but not the command line logon...the
At 05:37 PM 10/12/1999 -0700, Vinnie wrote:
>On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Nicole wrote:
>> Well, I think we have this one just about covered ;o)
> no kidding! But I saved them all off. Even *I* learned a lot from
>that :)
I'm just sitting here in awe, thinking about putting everything together
and bindi
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Nicole wrote:
> Well, I think we have this one just about covered ;o)
no kidding! But I saved them all off. Even *I* learned a lot from
that :)
Thanks everybody!
Vinnie
--
Reality is a formality, an agreed upon set of lies -- J.D. Catron
Obligatory pathetic website at h
And here's a descriptive list of signals from Solaris's signals.h (which
is UNPUBLISHED PROPRIETARY SOURCE CODE OF AT&T). Sometimes it's fun to
kill -SEGV stuff. STOP and CONT also let you suspend and resume stuff if
you don't have a shell with job control (ie if its a daemon, or you
started it
I thought I'd share this command. It helps those especially if you can't get
your modem to work under linux (assuming you don't have a winmodem). I
assume you have already used the RedHat Control Panel to assign the correct
com port to /dev/modem - for example mine is on Com 3. Okay to check out
w
At 16:45 on Oct 12, Samantha Jo Moore combined all the right letters to say:
> OK, quick kill tutorial...
Well, I think we have this one just about covered ;o)
-nicole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
> > Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> > anything.
>
> Simple question (I hope):
>
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I would have the know-how to
> find that exact ans
OK, quick kill tutorial...
> Simple question (I hope):
>
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I would have the know-how to
> find that exact answer in the man pages ;)
Different programs in Linux (or any u
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Amanda Knox wrote:
> > Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> > anything.
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I would have the know-how to
> find that e
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Amanda Knox wrote:
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I would have the know-how to
> find that exact answer in the man pages ;)
The -9 option is "kill with extreme prejudice, no waiti
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Amanda Knox wrote:
> Just This Girl wrote:
>
> > Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> > anything.
>
> Simple question (I hope):
>
> Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
> I typed 'Kill -1'? Just cu
Just This Girl wrote:
> Did you try 'kill pid' or 'kill -9 pid'? 'kill -9' should bring down
> anything.
Simple question (I hope):
Why is it '-9' exactly? Are there different kill levels or something? What if
I typed 'Kill -1'? Just curious, and I doubt I would have the know-how to
find that
> Julia Frizzell Wrote:
>
> But back to the GUI question -- I think having a GUI interface lulls
> a newbie into thinking "oh, this is just like Windows/MacOS" and it's
> really not. While there may be graphics on the screen, Linux (at
> least in gnome) does not operate like Windows or the MacOS.
Hi,
>
> This will offer you a choice of where to put the new netscape. You can
> pick the same dir your current netscape is in, and it will copy all the
> files it replaces to filename.old, so it is possible to undo the
> change. Or you can pick a new directory if you would like to be extra
> cau
Hi, Joann,
> I could use some advice here please. I am feeling brave tonight. (reading
> this mailgroup is building my confidence-you are all great!)
>
> I have Linux Mandrake 6.0 and it has Netscape Comm. 4.6
> I want to put on NC 4.7.
> I have downloaded the 70 MB linux netscape file and it is
Okay, go ahead and tar zxf the tar.gz
# tar zxf filename
Then go into the directory it creates.
There is a README.install... read it :)
What it essentially says to do is (as root):
# ./ns-install
This will offer you a choice of where to put the new netscape. You can
pick the same dir your cu
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
> On 10/12/99, 5:42:54 PM, Samantha Jo Moore wrote:
>
> > R Pickett may be stating what DOS is supposed to do.
> > Let's not start a fight, OK?
>
> You are right!
>
> Sometimes my reactions are a little bit naughty when it
> comes to discuss the DO
I could use some advice here please. I am feeling brave tonight. (reading
this mailgroup is building my confidence-you are all great!)
I have Linux Mandrake 6.0 and it has Netscape Comm. 4.6
I want to put on NC 4.7.
I have downloaded the 70 MB linux netscape file and it is in tar format.
Q:
1. S
Here is a link to an article by the Gartner Group on Linux's competition
with WIndows.
http://gartner11.gartnerweb.com/public/static/hotc/hc00083186.html
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
On 10/12/99, 5:42:54 PM, Samantha Jo Moore wrote:
> R Pickett may be stating what DOS is supposed to do.
> Let's not start a fight, OK?
You are right!
Sometimes my reactions are a little bit naughty when it
comes to discuss the DOS vs. Linux thing.
I should have answered in a more polite way,
>Hi there,
Howdy, Telsa!
>>>But unless everything you're told to do in a HOWTO works
>>>first time, you're stuck, in my experience.
>> I don't agree.
>I was sure someone would have a different view, yes :) But is the
>reply concerning my experience with HOWTOs, or what I said e
I didnt think it would take that much, but that is still quite a bit.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, you wrote:
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] Re: virtual .. by
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I doubt much if they are console logins. I can open 35 terminals in X before
> > my memory starts
>
>
> Sure. Is it working now?
>
> Beverly
>
> >
> >
Yes it is. It's working nicely. Everybody's replies helped to understand
info on making my drive work better. Now my only other thing to tackle is to
write a readable disk (hahhahaha). I'm gonna buy another CDRW so I can
practice. I wrote a J
Hi, Telsa,
> My condolences on the humidity, then :) (It's the one place in the
> US I've visited, and I felt like I was melting. And that was the
> spring
It's one of the best high tech markets in the country, though. Our
unemployment rate in the computer industry is nearly zero. If you have
Hi there,
I said,
> >minutes later. HOWTOs are, I think, great for people who know 'what
> >they want to do' and just aren't sure they're covering everything in
> >the route there. But unless everything you're told to do in a HOWTO works
> >first time, you're stuck, in my experience. They're m
Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 Re: [techtalk] Re: virtual .. by
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I doubt much if they are console logins. I can open 35 terminals in X before
> my memory starts hurting.
Hm.. looks like here agetty takes 840k, and X has 8M at the moment. So,
thats 40*.84 + 3*8 = 57.60M.
Here's an article I just read. I may
never have to use 'that other os' again!
http://www.palminfocenter.com/view_Story.asp?ID=179
Clare
"Computers are useless.
They can only give you answers." ~Pablo Picasso (1881-1973)
i think alt+right or left arrow keys can be used to scroll past 24
consoles
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Erin Clarke wrote:
> Date: Tue, 12 Oct 1999 09:22:51 -0400
> From: Erin Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [techtalk] request(<-was) Term
I applaud Samantha for thoroughly explaining the concept of
initialization levels but I think for me, I can't find the time
to explain something in depth. If there were people who wanted
the explanation in greater detail, all they have to do is ask.
Most of what I blurb out can be found in manua
Hi Deb,
On your book for newbies.
Here are some things I have had to figure out, most with help from various
sources.
edit file:
ok, many say, open your _finlname_ and edit it. duh, how to open and edit
it? Someone had written they use emacs, but when I typed emacs at the
prompt, no such command
I doubt much if they are console logins. I can open 35 terminals in X before
my memory starts hurting.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, you wrote:
> Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 [techtalk] Re: virtual term.. by Ian
> Hall-Beyer@nerdherd.
> > > > My highly-modified Redhat setup has 45 virtual consoles
>
> I love this list~!
So do I :D
[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org
Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 [techtalk] Re: virtual term.. by Ian
Hall-Beyer@nerdherd.
> > > My highly-modified Redhat setup has 45 virtual consoles. My /etc/inittab
> > > has this to deploy it all:
Wow. I can't help but wonder how much memory this takes up...
[EMAIL PROTE
Excerpts from linuxchix: 12-Oct-99 [techtalk] Re: virtual term.. by Ian
Hall-Beyer@nerdherd.
> > > My highly-modified Redhat setup has 45 virtual consoles. My /etc/inittab
> > > has this to deploy it all:
Wow. I can't help but wonder how much memory this takes up...
[EMAIL PROTE
Telsa,
>I think this is very common. I tend to find that if I am struggling
>with something, and I periodically look back at a HOWTO, I understand
>a line or section more every so often. Like, a week later, not five
>minutes later. HOWTOs are, I think, great for people who know 'what
>they want
This is *exactly* the kind of thing that needs to go in the new manual. I
never new what the different run levels meant (except that run level 0 has
been reached meant I had completed my shutdown)
The explanation is perfect. I learned something today! And, I even got a
few shortcuts to repl
Crossposting from ISP-Linux list, thought this might be relevant to a
recent discussion
-Ian
> > My highly-modified Redhat setup has 45 virtual consoles. My /etc/inittab
> > has this to deploy it all:
>
> Wow, impressive. I know about the right alt-key trick to access 13 through
> 24, but wh
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, you wrote:
>I have 2 hard drives on my system.
>drive 1 is partitioned to C and E in windows.
>drive 2 is D and also is where I put linux-mandrake 6.0.
>
>now, I can mount my atapi zip, no problem, and my d drive where my dos files
>are
>(I have added lines to my fstab file,
Hi all,
> Hi, Jack,
>
> Reboot, and type in "linux 3" at the LILO prompt. That will boot to the
> command line.
>
> To make the change permanent, you need to edit your /etc/inittab file and
> change your run level at boot from 5 (GUI) to 3 (command line).
>
> That's all it takes :)
This se
On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:06:40AM -0400 or thereabouts, Julia Frizzell wrote:
> At 12:44 PM -0700 10/11/99, Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
>
> >Plus, the idea that GUI == easier is...hmm..not exactly wrong..a GUI can
> >be easier under many circumstances, but a GUI is not necessarily easier
> >under all
> Sorry, but I disagree. Having played with DOS, Win 3.1, Win 3.11, Win95,
> Win98, C, C++, Visual C++ and Visual Basic, rebuilt several computers from
> the motherboard up, and installed more drivers and configured more dip
> switches (remember them?) than I care to count, the idea that an operat
Beverly Guillermo wrote:
>
> You have it your setup to enter X automatically, so you're running
> at runlevel 5, rather then runlevel 3.
In the distro I'm using runlevel 3 is the one you enter X automatically
from. The best advice I can give is to look at /etc/inittab -- there
should be a list
Hi!
I have 2 hard drives on my system.
drive 1 is partitioned to C and E in windows.
drive 2 is D and also is where I put linux-mandrake 6.0.
now, I can mount my atapi zip, no problem, and my d drive where my dos files
are
(I have added lines to my fstab file, and have nice devices added to KDE
> On 10/11/99, 11:37:42 PM, wrote erroneously:
>
> > On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
>
> > > So smart DOS does some very nice thing: *without* asking
> > > the user it overwrites the contents of the disk. The
> > > cached directory contents are written just over the *real*
> > >
Thanks. I knew it was simple...
Hi there
to get to console from where you are press ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3/f4/f5 to get to
your text terminals .
once there you can log in as normal ..
your system is setup to startup in runlevel 5 ( X startup )
to change that edit your /etc/inittab file and searc
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Beverly Guillermo wrote:
> I don't think the latest kernels have full support for USB unless
> you're using the development kernels. =) Sorry.
About the best you can do in 2.2.x is spotty keyboard and mouse support.
-Ian (who has a USB keyboard and mouse on his box)
--
w
I replied to a post asking the same thing. Check /etc/inittab and
make sure you're using runlevel 3 instead of runlevel 5.
Also, from within X, you can hit CTRL-ALT-Fx to get to your virtual
console windows. To return to Xwindows, (right CTRL)-ALT-F7.
Beverly
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mail
At 12:44 PM -0700 10/11/99, Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
>On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, lisa daly wrote:
>
> > I must disagree with this. GUI's are great if you
> > don't care what's going on under the hood. But to
> > truly learn linux, you need the command line. It's
[snip]
>Plus, the idea that GUI == eas
Hi, Jack,
Reboot, and type in "linux 3" at the LILO prompt. That will boot to the
command line.
To make the change permanent, you need to edit your /etc/inittab file and
change your run level at boot from 5 (GUI) to 3 (command line).
That's all it takes :)
Regards,
Caity
> I am using X on t
Hi there
to get to console from where you are press ctrl-alt-f1/f2/f3/f4/f5 to get to
your text terminals .
once there you can log in as normal ..
your system is setup to startup in runlevel 5 ( X startup )
to change that edit your /etc/inittab file and search for init level and
change it f
I am using X on the Mandrake 6.0...my problem is that I cannot figure out
how to get to the command line. This is not the only distro I hav ever
used, but I have never seen this before. When you close X it gives the
logon screen...but not the command line logon...the X logon (graphical)...at
lisa>>
>> I must disagree with this. GUI's are great if you
>> don't care what's going on under the hood. But to
>> truly learn linux, you need the command line.
caity>
>The target audience, which I presume is the mainstream, for the most
part
>couldn't care less what's going on under the hood.
Can you give us the exact error message you get when you try
to start X? There's usually some error code if it gives out
like err(111) or something.
Beverly
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Scott Howell
> Sent: Monday, October 11, 1999 8:30 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROT
You have it your setup to enter X automatically, so you're running
at runlevel 5, rather then runlevel 3. Runlevel 3 is the usual
initialization of Linux that brings you to the console login.
Check your /etc/inittab for what its saying and edit it to use 3
if you want the console first rather t
> > > append = "hdb=ide-scsi"
> > This only works for version 2.0.x kernels. For version 2.2.x,
> you have to
> > do a little something different, well, at least on mine. =)
> Funny you should say that. It works on my 2.2.12 ;)
Heh. Okay, it probably does work with the new kernels but it
certai
Vinnie Surmonde wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Oct 1999, Wendt,Andrew wrote:
>
> > You may already know this, but you can use the right alt key to get twelve more
> > terminals. (Right-alt-f1 is terminal 13, etc...)
>
> point, but that's only 24
>
> (I will say that the major use of X for me is to keep my
I don't think the latest kernels have full support for USB unless
you're using the development kernels. =) Sorry.
Beverly
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of JoAnn Elliott
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 9:39 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [techtalk]
Sure. Is it working now?
Beverly
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Norma Armstrong
> Sent: Saturday, October 09, 1999 12:44 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: [techtalk] Setting up my Mitsumi 4802TE CDRW under Redhat
> Linux6.0
>
>
> Thanks, kindly for
After re-reading Ethernet-HOWTO for the fiftieth time, I realized that 0
wasn't what I wanted 'cat /proc/interrupts' to read for eth0.
According to Windows, eth0 wasn't having an IRQ conflict, but according
to Linux, it was, so I set the NIC to an IRQ unused in both Linux and
Windows to save futu
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