On 4/23/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Well, Andreas, I hate to say it, but I am the man of your dreams! :-) I
have already integrated the Spring transaction/ORM support into HiveMind.
HiveTranse basically took a "grow your own" strategy, because the author
wasn't familiar with Spr
I really liked Spring in Action (along with Hibernate in Action).
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sam
Gendler
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:55 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
>
> Which book if I may as
On 27. Apr 2006 - 17:54:53, Sam Gendler wrote:
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| > Which book if I may ask? I'm interested in reading a _good_ book
| > about this complex, too ;)
|
| This book:
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764574833/sr=8-1/qid=1146145934/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4572588-6715928?%5Fencoding=UTF8
Thanks! :
>
> Which book if I may ask? I'm interested in reading a _good_ book
> about this complex, too ;)
This book:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0764574833/sr=8-1/qid=1146145934/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-4572588-6715928?%5Fencoding=UTF8
It is very well put together. In fact, I was surprised to hear people
I did finally use James tapernate code yesterday and was very happily
surprised at how nicely he had integrated it into tapestry. I highly
reccomend checking it out.
On 4/27/06, Andreas Bulling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 27. Apr 2006 - 14:34:05, Sam Gendler wrote:
> | Before I started my c
On 27. Apr 2006 - 14:34:05, Sam Gendler wrote:
| Before I started my current project, I spent a week reading a
| very thorough Spring book from cover to cover. I have no such option
| with Hivemind, so I am still mostly clueless about it.
Which book if I may ask? I'm interested in reading a _goo
Count me in the 'Uses Spring because of transaction
management/AOP/Acegi integration' camp. What is frustrating for me is
that I have put off learning hivemind because I am doing all my IoC in
Spring, except where tapestry forces me into hivemind. As a result,
there is still a lot I don't understa
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From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Reynolds
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:26 AM
To: tapestry-user@jakarta.apache.org
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
Yes, it would be most helpful if you could describe your solution using
hivetranse for the following issues:
1) s
I
had to write much less code to achieve the same result. And, I'm
reusing a
proven technology (the Spring classes) which people are familiar with
already.
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From: Nick Faiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 23,
2006 9:21 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subjec
PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: I have a dream...
>
>
> ... that one day we have a solution to this repetitive problems with
> Hibernate/sessions/transactions/demarcations/etc. which is
>
> - flexible enough to allow different usages (with/without
> manual demarcation
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From: Nick Faiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 9:21 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
I still don't see what's wrong with HiveUtils - it just works for me. I
spent around 30 minutes configuring it 6 weeks ago and they've bee
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To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
I still don't see what's wrong with HiveUtils - it just works for me. I
spent around 30 minutes configuring it 6 weeks ago and they've been no
problems.
Nick
Andreas Bulling w
I still don't see what's wrong with HiveUtils - it just works for me. I
spent around 30 minutes configuring it 6 weeks ago and they've been no
problems.
Nick
Andreas Bulling wrote:
Spring may provide all of the things on my list of wishes already...
I don't know as I only tried to use it for
> Because there are some people who would like to use a lightweight
> container instead of a heavy one?
Spring is a lightweigth container. You can use as much or as little as
you want. You determine the weight of the container by your needs.
It's dependencies are only as extensive as your needs. T
Ok, I see you point.
So then it would have to be done in a way that lets you chose which way
to go. Which would really cause additional work...
But it would be cool if there would be interfaces for certain
functionality and then you could configure whether you want to use the
hivemind implement
| The other thing is - instead of adding new things from scratch, why not
| use Spring, for example the way James says he has done for Transactions
| and ORM (I haven't seen his code yet).
Because there are some people out there (including me) who don't want to
put the whole spring stuff with it
But by all means I didn't want to start another Hivemind vs. Spring flamewar
so please keep calm ;)
I haven't been on the list that long, so if there was one I missed it... ;-)
Anyway - no, I don't want to start that. I also don't want to suggest
that Spring is just plain better than Hive
On 23. Apr 2006 - 09:36:52, James Carman wrote:
| Well, Andreas, I hate to say it, but I am the man of your dreams! :-)
*lol
And I can tell you that it's very assuasive for me to know that this only
applies to the Hibernate/Tapestry/Hivemind complex *g
| I have already integrated the Spring trans
you can use the Honeycomb modules (once
they're available).
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From: Andreas Bulling [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Andreas Bulling
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 5:17 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
Spring may provide all of the things on m
y building logic the "HiveMind way." The
one thing that we need in HiveMind is support for AspectJ. I'm working on
that. :)
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From: Mark Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 4:44 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a drea
Spring may provide all of the things on my list of wishes already...
I don't know as I only tried to use it for several days and changed
to Hivemind as it's the tool Tapestry is build upon/uses and I don't
need most of Spring's stuff (at least not at the moment).
That's why I wrote that I dream of
rom: Mark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:33 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
How about tighter Spring Integration?
There is a bunch of things that exist in Spring as well - transaction
handling, validation logic, Hibernate session handling, etc
On Saturday 22 April 2006 14:32, Mark wrote:
> How about tighter Spring Integration?
The problem I have with that statement is, AFAIK, hivemind and spring
essentially do the same thing--IoC and method interception, right? In which
case, isn't it sub-optimal to have two complicated libraries doi
: Saturday, April 22, 2006 2:33 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: I have a dream...
How about tighter Spring Integration?
There is a bunch of things that exist in Spring as well - transaction
handling, validation logic, Hibernate session handling, etc, etc.
As far as I am concerned, Tapestry an
How about tighter Spring Integration?
There is a bunch of things that exist in Spring as well - transaction
handling, validation logic, Hibernate session handling, etc, etc.
As far as I am concerned, Tapestry and for that matter Hivemind is
really only the web front-end, not the core.
If you a
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Andreas Bulling wrote:
> ... that one day we have a solution to this repetitive problems with
> Hibernate/sessions/transactions/demarcations/etc. which is
>
> - flexible enough to allow different usages (with/without manual demarcation,
> session-per-
... that one day we have a solution to this repetitive problems with
Hibernate/sessions/transactions/demarcations/etc. which is
- flexible enough to allow different usages (with/without manual demarcation,
session-per-request/-conversation, ...) for the people with their different
needs
- at the
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