[Tagging] Riverbanks

Hi, the wiki [1] states for riverbanks that "These water areas should be tagged as either of waterway=riverbank OR natural=water + water=river." Why do we need both variants and why don't we just say that waterway=riverbank is preferred? Cheers dktue [1] https://wiki.op

Re: [Tagging] Riverbanks

Am 21.07.2020 um 10:55 schrieb Tomas Straupis: 2020-07-21, an, 11:20 dktue rašė: Why do we need both variants and why don't we just say that waterway=riverbank is preferred? There is an original OpenStreetMap water schema with lakes as natural=water, reservoirs as landuse=rese

Re: [Tagging] Riverbanks

 There is no way to calculate the "opinnion" of the community and authoritarian/dictator attitude of iD coders and lack of action ramped up usage of nerdy schema close to original OSM one.  And there is nobody bold to solve this, as there is no governing body/expert group.  Local communiti

[Tagging] Aerialway stations

his information with  station=valley_station/mid_station/upper_station ? Cheers dktue [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aerialway=station ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Aerialway stations

Am 12.08.2020 um 16:28 schrieb Niels Elgaard Larsen: dktue: Hi, I was wondering why there's no way to distinguish valley and upper stations of aerialways in OpenStreetMap. Usually an aerialway consists of  * one valley station  * zero or more mid stations  * one upper statio

Re: [Tagging] Aerialway stations

cause people have to get out and change the aerialway to proceed furtuher to the top it's correct that this is not a mid-station. I would expect from a mid-station that I can get off but I might be able to stay and go further. Cheers dktue Am 12.08.2020 um 17:02 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny

Re: [Tagging] Aerialway stations

If the concern is for routing, that's a slightly bigger challenge—some tramways load only at one end, some load at both (e.g. the gondola linked above), others load primarily at one end with limited loading at the other in various special conditions, sometimes event-specific, and often with d

Re: [Tagging] Aerialway stations

I think that it's quite hard for data consumers (again: think of an overpass-query to find all mid-stations) to determine which role a station has. Like Martin said: Why not just solve the (huge!) special case of mountain aerialways where we really have one bottom_station, zero or more mid_stat

[Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

Hi, the wiki states since more than eight years that there's a debate about wether one should tag "tunnel:name" or "name". [1] Is there any new opinion in the community on this topic that has not been documented in the wiki? Cheers dktue [1] https://wiki.openstre

Re: [Tagging] Aerialway stations

I think it's easy for a mapper to determine if a station is a bottom_station or a upper_station even if he doesn't know the exact elevation. Am 13.08.2020 um 14:28 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-13 14:07, dktue wrote: I think that it's quite hard for data consumers (aga

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

that one should tag "tunnel:name" instead of "name" for the name of the tunnel? [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4834663 Am 13.08.2020 um 14:56 schrieb Matthew Woehlke: On 13/08/2020 08.10, dktue wrote: the wiki states since more than eight years that there's a debate

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

quot;tunnel:name" or "bridge:name" is definitely better. Am 13.08.2020 um 15:31 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: sent from a phone On 13. Aug 2020, at 14:12, dktue wrote: the wiki states since more than eight years that there's a debate about wether one should tag "t

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 13.08.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote: Hi, in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. That´s not possible at the

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 13.08.2020 um 19:06 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-13 18:35, Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol wrote: Hi, in my opinion (i think dktue is right there) it should be easy for a user to distinguish or extract (overpass query) the upper, mid and lower stations. That´s not possible at the

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 10:28 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:00, dktue wrote: So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause? There is concerns expressed by the tag value lower/upper that imply the elevation difference, do

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 10:35 schrieb dktue: Am 14.08.2020 um 10:28 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:00, dktue wrote: So why oppose to the suggested tagging of station=lower_station/mid_station/upper_station? What harm would this cause? There is concerns expressed by the tag value lower/upper

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 10:53 schrieb yvecai: On 14.08.20 10:40, dktue wrote: I would define it as: lower_station: station that has the lowest elevation (exact elevation is not necessary to know, it's obvious) upper_station: station that has the highest elevation mid_station: any other stat

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) OK, two people agree on the strings to use, but what are the semantics? What sentence would go in the wiki to descr

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

Am 14.08.2020 um 14:29 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging: Aug 13, 2020, 15:01 by em...@daniel-korn.de: Here's an example [1] where the name of the tunnel seems to be tagged as "name". I'm not sure what the roads name is (might be Schlossbergtunnel, Hegelstraße or Rheinlandstra

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 14:51 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:55, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:34 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-14 13:14, dktue wrote: Am 14.08.2020 um 13:11 schrieb Yves: Base / mid / head? I'm definitely open for that! :-) OK, two people

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

Am 14.08.2020 um 16:21 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: On 14. Aug 2020, at 14:31, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: If name of tunnel is also name of road then name tag should be fine. how would you know whether the name is for the road or the tunnel if there is only a name tag? What abou

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 14.08.2020 um 16:37 schrieb yvecai: I would propose, if you want to use altitude as a definition: bottom: the end station with the lower altitude up: the end station with the higher altitude mid: any station, not being a base or a head station, irrespective of the altitude O

Re: [Tagging] bridge:name and tunnel:name

Am 15.08.2020 um 11:18 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: IMHO a tunnel is more than the way through it, the ventilation shafts, escape ways, also arguably all the tubes, could be considered „the tunnel“. The reason it is not done typically is that these features aren’t very visible (mostly undergro

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

for any station not being at the end of and aerialway regardless of the altitude. Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition? Cheers dktue Am 15.08.2020 um 13:37 schrieb Werner.Haag@leitstelle.tirol: Hi, it was mentioned, we have many aerialways in Tyrol and there are really

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

t the end of the aerialway with the lower altitude,     aerialway:station=upper for the station at the end of the aerialway with the higher altitude,     aerialway:station=mid for any station not being at the end of and aerialway. Anyone who wants to improve or oppose to this definition? Cheers dktue Am

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

.openstreetmap.org/way/26746748 [2] https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/293382166 Am 15.08.2020 um 15:03 schrieb Colin Smale: It seems we can't even agree on what question to ask an "expert". @dktue I think you started this discussion... What was your intention at the time? Was it

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 15.08.2020 um 15:31 schrieb Colin Smale: On 2020-08-15 15:15, dktue wrote: The main thing is that people often refer to "Talstation" and "Bergstation" but this information is not machine-readeable but mostly encoded in the names of the stations. My goal ist to make thi

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Am 15.08.2020 um 18:25 schrieb Yves: Had a look at http://www.skilifts.org/old/glossary.htm, came up with : Aerialway:station=top_terminal, mid_terminal, bottom_terminal I'd be totally fine with that aswell. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstree

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

So that would leave us with     aerialway:station={bottom,mid,top}? Am 16.08.2020 um 13:53 schrieb Colin Smale: Nope You can't have a mid terminal, by definition. And as "terminal" is used with similar semantics to "station" here, if you start with aerialway:station you don't need to inc

Re: [Tagging] Antwort: Re: Antwort: Re: Aerialway stations

Ok, then I'm going to edit the wiki [1] now. [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aerialway=station Am 16.08.2020 um 15:07 schrieb Yves: I derived, not copied :-) Go on with proposed top, mid & bottom, Dktue. I tried to be more specific and imply a meaning that is beyond 

[Tagging] Link to stream of webcam

Hi, I'd like to tag the link to the (current) JPEG-image of a webcam, but the wiki doesn't state how to do so [1]. Any suggestions how to tag this? Cheers, dktue [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dsurveillance _

[Tagging] emergency=control_centre

Hello, I would like to propose a tag for emergency control centers (the place you reach when you call 112 in Europe). My suggestion would be "emergency=control_centre". Cheers, dktue ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

You're right, indeed. Office would definitely suit better. But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not building=ambulance_station? If we're doing so to make a grouping about emergency-related facilities, then we should go with an emergency-tag. Am 09.12.2018 um 16:50 schrieb Ma

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

18-12-09 16:58, dktue wrote: But why are we using emergency=ambulance_station and not building=ambulance_station? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/ta

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

You're definitely right. Good point! I've been convinced that the office-key is a suitable place to put the tag. Am 09.12.2018 um 17:15 schrieb Paul Allen: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 3:59 PM dktue <mailto:em...@daniel-korn.de>> wrote: You're right, indeed. Office woul

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

By the way: We're currently using amenity=fire_station und emergency=ambulance_station -- which is confusing in my opinion. Am 09.12.2018 um 18:12 schrieb Stefano Maffulli: On Sun, Dec 9, 2018 at 8:16 AM Paul Allen > wrote: Ambulance stations (like fire stati

Re: [Tagging] emergency=control_centre

g for emergency control centers (the place you reach when you call 112 in Europe). My suggestion would be "emergency=control_centre". Cheers, dktue ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org <mailto:Tagging

[Tagging] Printing company for newspapers

Hi, I would like to tag a company where newspapers are being printed, but I feel that shop=copyshop doesn't fit well. My suggestion would be to go with craft=printer. Any opinions on that? Cheers, dktue ___ Tagging mailing list Ta

[Tagging] shop=clothes vs shop=fashion

Hello, I currently found out that shops that sell clothes are either tagged with     shop=clothes or with     shop=fashion but I can't find out when to use which. Can anybody clarify? Cheers, Daniel ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

[Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

prefer "22000" as it fits with other OSM-values (no units). Cheers, dktue [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dcharging_station ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

I'd vote for kW aswell (and a value of "22" then), since we're not always using SI and not always base-unit-values (see kilometers per hour). Am 29.07.2019 um 12:53 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: Am Mo., 29. Juli 2019 um 12:39 Uhr schrieb dktue <mailto:em...@daniel

Re: [Tagging] Charging stations: socket::output -- which format for the value?

OSM typically places unit after the value. For examples see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features/Units#Explicit_specifications In Some cases the unit is omitted and a default is assumed. Would this default be "kW" in this case? ___ Tag

[Tagging] Properties of swimming pools

Hello, I would like to tag information about the water-temperature and the depth of the separate pools in the outdoor-swimming pool [1]. Are there any suggested tag-names or should I just go with "depth" and "temperature"? cheers, dktue [1] https://www.openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Properties of swimming pools

I also think the temperature-tag-proposal was very well thought through. This is why I now used it to tag the temperature of the pools. Am 30.08.2018 um 14:17 schrieb Paul Allen: On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 12:34 PM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com > wrote: Tempera

[Tagging] What is the height of this wall?

Hi, have a look at this wall from the waterside [1]: It's probably 3 meter high. On the otherhand, from the other side [2] it's only about 80cm high. What is the height I should insert into the height-tag? cheers, dktue [1] https://www.hauserfoto.com/img/s/v-3/p14189406-5.jpg

[Tagging] Area of Firestations

hould I go with amenity=fire_station for the area and building=fire_station for the buildings inside of it? Cheers, dktue ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

How about ambulance stations? Should we tag the area with emergency=ambulance_station and the building with building=ambulance_station? dktue Am 21.09.2018 um 03:23 schrieb Mike H: I've only mapped one station like this so far, but the area is actually rendered on the map.

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

ale <mailto:colin.sm...@xs4all.nl>> написал(а): What about landuse=ambulance_station on the area? What would the landuse be otherwise? Asking for a friend... On 2018-09-21 10:47, dktue wrote: How about ambulance stations? Should we tag the area with emergency=ambulance_station an

Re: [Tagging] Area of Firestations / Area of Ambulancestations

Am 22.09.2018 um 00:29 schrieb Warin: On 21/09/18 23:52, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 21. Sep 2018, at 11:28, dktue wrote: but: it's not amenity=ambulance_station we're using at the moment. We're using emergency=ambulance_station -- so: How do we solve