[Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
I am currently working on cleaning up stuff in Stockholm, and I was wondering if it was OK do to things like: * Remove cycleways parallel to other ways and add a cycleway=track to that way instead. * Remove parks created from green areas on the satellite that are not really parks (adding a tree_li

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:56 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 5 May 2010 22:50, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > * Remove cycleways parallel to other ways and add a cycleway=track to > that > > way instead. > > Is there a good reason you want to reduce information? > Yes, as

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:24 PM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > 2010/5/5 Jonas Minnberg : > > > > > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 2:56 PM, John Smith > > wrote: > >> > >> On 5 May 2010 22:50, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > >> > * Remove cycleways paral

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:59 PM, John Smith wrote: > On 5 May 2010 23:54, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > So OK, I can leave sidewalks (even though to be consistent you should > then > > draw sidewalks next to every street in the city that has them). > > That's wher

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Peteris Krisjanis wrote: > >> A bad compromise would be to leave the park area and retag it as > >> fixme=looked_green_on_satellite or something, but that approach would > just > >> leave lots of useless areas... > > > > If they aren't parks, then what are they? >

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:18 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/5 Jonas Minnberg : > >> If they aren't parks, then what are they? > > > > They are trees or sometimes small areas of grass next to buildings. For > > instance; > > > use landuse=grass,

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
further inside. You remember shops locations by their storefronts. (Not for shops inside malls of course.) On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:46 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/5 Jonas Minnberg : > > Shouldn't you expect - you know - *grass* in areas with landuse=grass ? > :9 > >

Re: [Tagging] Cleaning up

2010-05-05 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:49 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/5 Jonas Minnberg : > > I will not join together joining areas since there doesn't seem to > > be consensus on that. > > > I think there is consensus that the nodes should be connected (and > I'

[Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Jonas Minnberg
Ok so I keep running into these; green areas visible on satellite imagery that are tagged as parks but aren't really. My first instinct was to remove them, but that was mostly met with skepticism and alternative tag suggestions. So I am thinking of inventing a couple of new tags for this: landus

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 2:53 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/6 Jonas Minnberg : > > landuse=lawn (For smaller areas of kept grass that are > > either inaccessible or not meant to - you know - picnic on or similar). > > landuse=yard (For private backyards etc, usually

Re: [Tagging] Green areas that are not parks (revisited)

2010-05-06 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Craig Wallace wrote: > > I think "yard" is a rather vague word, as it could also be a farmyard, > industrial yard, courtyard, shipyard etc. > That is what I like about it - when all I can find out about an area is that is green and lies in between buildings, "yard

[Tagging] More tagging questions

2010-05-07 Thread Jonas Minnberg
In Sweden we have special barriers in the ground that only larger vehicles can pass, meant to allow buses but not normal cars - is there a tag for such a thing or should I make one up? Is there a a good way to define the area covered by school grounds? The examples and documentation about educatio

Re: [Tagging] More tagging questions

2010-05-07 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 10:25 PM, Craig Wallace wrote: > On 07/05/2010 21:09, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > > > In Sweden we have special barriers in the ground that only larger > > vehicles can pass, meant to allow buses but not normal cars - is there a > > tag for such a

[Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Jonas Minnberg
So as I'm adding things I also try to fix bad alignments, doing things like: * Make bordering landuses share nodes, moving the nodes for the least "static" ie if a forest lies next to a lake, move the forest nodes since the lake may be derived from real data, whereas the forest is probably just pl

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Jonas Minnberg
OK, some real world examples; * Two overlapping wood-areas, one named, the other not. * Grass inside grass landuse, rock inside grass landuse etc - is the rule that wholly interior (possibly sharing nodes with the exterior) areas are always rendered on top of its exterior area? __

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Jonas Minnberg
Oh and I forgot: * landuse=grass overlapping landuse=wood, grass set as layer=-1 On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:26 PM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > OK, some real world examples; > > * Two overlapping wood-areas, one named, the other not. > > * Grass inside grass landuse, rock inside

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Jonas Minnberg
Well the area around where I live is a wonderful mish-mash of overlapping landuses, and many roads sharing nodes with landuse-borders and I think it's too much work to get it straight for now... In the case of the grass/forest overlap: That was a grassy-looking area containing houses (so actually

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-14 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:50 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2010/5/14 John Smith : > > On 15 May 2010 05:27, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > >> Oh and I forgot: > >> * landuse=grass overlapping landuse=wood, grass set as layer=-1 > > > > Are you mixing

[Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Jonas Minnberg
Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or suburban areas? Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area (residential or commercial most often). None I have found have ever had any sort of copyright text on them. -- Sasq

Re: [Tagging] Roadside maps

2010-05-15 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Chris Hill wrote: > Jonas Minnberg wrote: > > Is it OK to use information you find on map-signs next to streets or > > suburban areas? > > > > Usually they show the houses and street names in a certain area > > (residential or c

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-16 Thread Jonas Minnberg
So the common problem I have here in Stockholm is that most residential areas in the suburbs have been "carved" out of wood- and grass-areas so there is always a mish-mash between those three. Is the correct way to split up all those landuses in smaller parts so they never overlap? Also, is it OK

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Minnberg
> > > * Unglue roads that share borders with landuses and move them into the > "correct" one (a residential road into the residential area etc). > > I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) and

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-17 Thread Jonas Minnberg
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Pieren wrote: > On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 2:00 PM, Jonas Minnberg wrote: > >> >> I'm kind of considering if this is right or not - if a road is the divider >> between two landuses, is it still best to unglue it from the landuse(s) a