Re: [Tagging] Limited use telephone

2024-05-24 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 24 May 2024, 15:14 Timothy Noname, wrote: > There is a node 6397545656 marked as amenity telephone but it's a service only for cyclists to contact the shuttle bus that takes them through the Dartford crossing. Sounds more like an intercom than a phone. ___

Re: [Tagging] Adding mapillary tags to every building

2020-06-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
to Commons, you can also link to it from Wikidata. (Although it can be used as I describe above, its primary purpose is to find, for a given location, nearby Wikidata items that lack images.) -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Tagging] Automated edit of image tags suggestion

2020-06-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
Would we want to introduce various extra tags for each? That invokes a slippery-slope fallacy; but consider: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flickr -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] How to map terrace buildings with names

2020-07-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
for you, in one process, and very well. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Finger- or guide-post text

2020-07-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
:=foo If this would cloud the use of "destination", we could use, say: inscription:337.5:=foo What do folk think? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 08:57, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Have our tagging voting rules changed recently? Which rules? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org ht

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
With all the usual "we are not Wikipedia" caveats, this page might make useful reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Polling_is_not_a_substitute_for_discussion -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk __

Re: [Tagging] Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?

2020-08-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 09:46, Frederik Ramm wrote: > On 04.08.20 10:06, Andy Mabbett wrote: > >> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently? > > > Which rules? > > Should I have written "was our voting process changed recently", or what > exactly are yo

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 22:48, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > On 20. Aug 2020, at 23:18, Volker Schmidt wrote: > Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway? That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) and can be reduced to: footway=canopy or better: footway=treetop --

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 15:03, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 15:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) > it is not a tautology, it’s a subtype [We were discussing the suggestion

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 20:46, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > > > On 21. Aug 2020, at 20:53, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > > > What type of footway is not a walkway? > > > > What type of walkway is not a footway? > > > >

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 21:44, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > >highway=trunk_hghway > these are different because it would be a literal repetition. Do we tag: highway=trunk_road ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewi

Re: [Tagging] Canopy Walkways

2020-08-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 23:56, Peter Elderson wrote: > > Do we tag > highway=motor ? Is anybody proposing footway=legs ? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.

Re: [Tagging] Tagging multiple images on one object

2020-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
no "moderation team" on Commons; deletion decisions there are made by the community of contributors at large (just like edits in OSM). Your images sound as though they would be in scope. Did you try to upload them? Do you have an example of an image which has been deleted from Commons?

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate water=pond?

2020-11-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
ial ones. I have a pond in my garden. I could, if I had a mind to and a decent run up, jump over it. Not by any stretch of the imagination is it a lake, reservoir or basin. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing

Re: [Tagging] dry swamps

2023-02-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it. Are they also known by some other name? I ask because I can find no papers about the phenomenon, by that name, on Google Scholar -- Andy Mabbett @pigson

Re: [Tagging] Rail replacement bus service

2023-03-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
: operator= Acme Buses rail_replacement_operator= Foobar Rail Co. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

2019-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
for > staff,... there are at least two possibilities: phone= phone:emergency= phone:staff= and: phone= emergency:phone= staff:phone= Neither of which requires "contact:" -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tag

[Tagging] Hill figures

2019-09-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
[12] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill_figure -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
> tag? > You have examples like tagging all ways that are a part of a street with > the wikidata item about that street. You can't define those parts in > Wikidata. Use a relation. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
ecause the > grouping itself was flagged as being of listed buildings. Do you mean categories on Wikimedia Commons? That's not Wikidata. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
rty identifiers (for example, Lidl has an "EU Transparency Register ID") can help. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
etlands, which happen to have a lake > within them. Map > the wetlands and add the wikidata tag to it. ..and create a Wikidata item for (just) the lake. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q314003 / https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26703203 ) But perhaps this is better done through the templated link to Q26703203 on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org and/ or Q26703203 /wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dstolperstein -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-13 Thread Andy Mabbett
296167. Can we agree that these should all be removed, or replaced with suitable sub-tag, ASAP? the sub-tag might be, say: historic:wikidata=Q2961670 > I would give all these roads part:wikidata=Q29616 I would not. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigso

Re: [Tagging] "part:wikidata=*" tag proposal for multiple elements connected to the same wikidata id

2019-09-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
bout that street. You can't define those parts in >>> Wikidata. >> Use a relation. > Introducing pointless relation to satisfy unneded rule is pointless. Indeed it would be. In this case, though the relation would not be "pointless".

Re: [Tagging] [Key:phone] - Suggesting wiki page changing

2019-09-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
tect Wiki pages unless they are the target of persistent or egregious vandalism. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Vegan "cheese" shops

2019-12-18 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:58, Robert Skedgell wrote: > I've just been to La Fauxmagerie in Shoreditch, London, a vegan "cheese" > shop. shop=hipster produce=bogus -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___

[Tagging] building=disused

2020-01-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
quot; buildings. Is JOSM correct, what's the preferred alternative, and why is there no easily-found documntation for this common use case? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
45733 Set of statues in Porto: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2996821310 https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People_looking_the_sky_%28Faro_district%29.JPG We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or define a new relation_type:artwork Thoughts? -- An

Re: [Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:41, marc marc wrote: > > Le 06.02.20 à 13:20, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > We could use relation_type:set > > why not using relation type=site that already exist ? Because they are not a "site". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Tagging] Relation for multi-part artworks

2020-02-06 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Thu, 6 Feb 2020 at 12:20, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > I hope to find consensus for how to tag artworks with multiple parts, > as a relation. > We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or > define a new relation_type:artwork To further complicate matters I

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
e full URLs nor the whole PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors masquerading as the companies whose commercial sites we depict. And would in any case be a ridiculous over-reaction, and damaging to our reputation. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthe

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/...) From the page headers (extraneous parameters snipped, white space added): https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/"; > -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http

Re: [Tagging] URL tracking parameters

2020-02-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:46, Shawn K. Quinn wrote: > > On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > > We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs nor the whole > > PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors > > masquerading as the companies w

Re: [Tagging] Neighborhood Gateway Signs?

2018-12-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
start_date= [date] * operator= [...] and: * wikidata= [QID] if applicable. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Waterway length

2019-02-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
m. Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Waterway length

2019-02-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 13:46, Eugene Podshivalov wrote: > > сб, 16 февр. 2019 г. в 16:30, Andy Mabbett : >> Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them? > Calculated value may differ from the official one and is error-prone I would suggest that values entered by hu

Re: [Tagging] Incorrectly tagging locks on rivers as canals

2019-04-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 20:47, François Lacombe wrote: > The main difference with rivers going through cities is it's often the > original natural course. The River Tame, in North Birmingham and in the urban areas north of the city, has several sections, some concrete-sided and some looking entir

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
the wiki is supposed to document current best practice, and can not dictate it? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 17:26, marc marc wrote: > > Le 08.05.19 à 18:00, Andy Mabbett a écrit : > > On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 14:50, > > wrote: > >> > >> I > > > > Who is "I"? is "wiki_openstreetmap_org.5.kuru" really your name?

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - toll

2019-05-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
practice, and can not dictate it? > You did notice she has linked to a proposal page, which is a space in the > wiki explicitly set up to discuss new ideas? Yes, I did. My point stands. Or did we change things, and agree that the Wiki is now the de jure record of authority?

Re: [Tagging] Opening hours syntax for non Gregorian calendar

2019-05-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
nglish month names. > opening_hours to keep things simple and to prevent a problem in one affecting > all of them. If only there was some sort of ISO standard for representing dates... -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

Re: [Tagging] reviving hollow way

2018-02-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
0568379 https://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-h/holloway-head/ which is an historic street name, not a neologism. That said, I have no view regarding the use of the term in tagging. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

[Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like material. I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthew

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 12 March 2018 at 12:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground >> items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like >> material. >> >> I've us

Re: [Tagging] Rubberised playground surface

2018-03-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
umb 3 > rubber_grass 3 Whatever the correct value turns out to be, there's an alarming level of redundancy there. "Rubber" and "recycled_rubber" should both be "rubber". "rubbercrumb" and "rubber_crumb" are clearly the same concept. I wond

Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel

2018-03-31 Thread Andy Mabbett
f service, pay at pump -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Cafe run as outreach project

2018-04-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
cooperative, charity, etc); why would we need one in this case? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Unifying large multi-location store chains

2018-05-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
it ranks results > based on wiki tags. So if you are going through these it would be a great > time to fix these as well. It would, but it would be even better to substitute, or add, wikidata:brand= at the same time. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthew

Re: [Tagging] Conflicting wiki docu for aerialway=goods and aerialway=station

2018-05-14 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 15 May 2018 02:36 Paul Allen, wrote: > at least one other language makes a similar > distinction to English in that stations are for people, not goods. The U.K. has (or had) many places named 'Goods Station'. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigs

Re: [Tagging] roundtrip

2018-05-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
circular route to arrive back at its starting point is NOT called a "round trip", whether or not it performs that circuit just once, or multiple times. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@op

Re: [Tagging] esperanto=yes

2018-06-28 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 28 June 2018 at 11:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > teaches:esperanto=yes Do we really want to replicate schools' and colleges' prospectuses? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing

[Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-08 Thread Andy Mabbett
e=Rue du Marché aux Poulets - Kiekenmarkt (Belgium, Spain) * spaces: name=干諾道中 Connaught Road Central (Hong Kong) * spaced slashes: name=Le Rhin / Rhein (shared boundaries) Greater consistency would surely be advantageous? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.o

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
:xx field. I understand that already. > p.s. It is not the first time this question pops up. That can be a sign that something is amiss. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
Xstraat", so the sign says Rue X-straat. > That's true and I always wondered why the community didn't take that > approach. Map what is on the sign. Signs can use different fonts, text size, colours and "line breaks" to indicate meaning which cannot be captured

Re: [Tagging] Slash, space, or spaced hyphen in multi-lingual names

2018-08-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 10 August 2018 at 23:39, Paul Allen wrote: > This is a different problem from which separator to use. I wondered if anyone would remember that question! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagg

Re: [Tagging] areas of risk

2018-08-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 16 August 2018 at 22:34, seirra wrote: > hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more > about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities > people may want to avoid What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing? -- And

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 09:13, Peter Elderson wrote: > In Nederland the Stolpersteine project has caught on and there is a database. Is that online, please? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tag

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
at you add to OSM with the equivalent Wikidata "QID". If the new database has PIDs for each Stolperstein, I will propose a new Wikidata property to store those IDs also, so we will be able to triangulate between the three databases. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigs

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 26 August 2018 at 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: > There is also a project to log Stolpersteine in Wikidata: > >https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stolpersteine P.S. Of course, this also involves adding a photograph of each individual Stolperstein to Wikimedia Commo

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-26 Thread Andy Mabbett
"On 26 August 2018 at 14:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> On 26. Aug 2018, at 13:18, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> >> Please tag any Stolperstein that you add to OSM with the equivalent >> Wikidata "QID". > Does Wikidata have an item for every Stolperstein

Re: [Tagging] Greengrocer vs grocery vs shop=food?

2018-10-10 Thread Andy Mabbett
This is part of a, international chain. What are other branches tagged as? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Greengrocer vs grocery vs shop=food?

2018-10-17 Thread Andy Mabbett
l or foreign prepared foods". But note also that the same page says "'Deli' also denotes a small convenience store or milk bar in [Australia]" and "In the United States, a delicatessen (or deli) is often a combined grocery store and

Re: [Tagging] [Diversity-talk] Out of the bars and onto the map: An lgbtq:*=* tagging scheme?

2018-10-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:27, Rory McCann wrote: > "shop=books lgbtq=yes" is a LGBTQ book shop, Wouldn't that be "shop=books books=lgbtq"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing li

[Tagging] Slipways (for boats)

2018-11-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
The wiki tells us to use "leisure=slipway": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway but many slipways are primarily for search-and-rescue, fishing craft, small ferries or other non-leisure uses. What would be a better tag? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonth

[Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
atures/" to "Key:", the better. Other issues which are unhelpful to data re-users include keys with missing documentation; redundant keys ("Key:openplaques_plaque" vs "Key:openplaques_id"); ambiguous keys ("ref=1234" - ref in whose database?) and

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 April 2014 17:31, Dan S wrote: > 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett : >> last year's State of the Map. > > And well done indeed! Thank you. >> I've just modified [[Template:KeyDescription]] by adding >> two parameters: >> for &qu

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
I commend this proposal to the list: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
to > know how I can find the corresponding Wikidata ID to go alongside. Look for a Wikipedia article - in any language. If there is none, it may be that the Wikidata entry has not yet been created, If so, write one, and then create it! -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.or

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
Card microformat (or some other contact metadata) and bring it back into the preset dialogue for editing and confirmation. It should also be able to do that with a Wikidata URL or "Q" identifier, and bring back a range of properties. I'll raise a bugs for these. -- A

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 April 2014 11:08, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > in the case of a Franchise operator:wikidata would > not be McDonald's Corp. but the company that > operates the small restaurant (sometimes it is McD, > but mostly not). Then we could use wikidata:brand= -- Andy Mabbett @p

Re: [Tagging] Issues relating to URIs and tagging

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 April 2014 10:49, Andy Mabbett wrote: > It should be posisble to give JOSM (or other editors) > the URL of a "contact us" web page, and for JOSM > to then go to that page, read an hCard microformat > (or some other contact metadata) and bring it back > into the pr

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
e is to make the link wherever a wikdiata entry already esxists for an entity in OSM, so that the richness of data available there is linked, and thus exposed to the re-users of OSM data. We should be able to use bots/scripts/tools to do much of this, BTW. See . -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 April 2014 11:31, Jo wrote: > or rather brand:wikidata (which is already in the list) Please see the proposal's talk page for discussion of how to order the componets of sub-tags: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Wikidata#Order_of_parts -- Andy

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
Zurich? Yes; unfortunately I was not able to secure a scholarship to attend. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
but which are mapped as separate entities. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Wikidata

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 April 2014 15:56, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 2 April 2014 13:47, Janko Mihelić wrote: > >> "There shouldn't be more than one Openstreetmap item with the same Wikidata >> ID." >> >> Although that's not entirely possible. > > There is al

[Tagging] Ticket for JOSM to read contact metadata closed

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
ed to "an hCard microformat or some other contact metadata". Was I unclear in my proposal? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] OpenPlaques

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
? If we do decide on the "_plaque" variant, how do we discourage colleagues from using "_id"? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Ticket for JOSM to read contact metadata closed

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
ss/organisation websites actually add these things? There are many millions of them; but, as noted above, I specifically referred to "an hCard microformat or some other contact metadata". -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] Ticket for JOSM to read contact metadata closed

2014-04-02 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 2 April 2014 18:37, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 02.04.2014 19:25, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The response probably refers to the fact > that, unfortunately, very few business websites offer contact data in a > machine-readable format. Perhaps, though a number do. But why would the mach

Re: [Tagging] shop for baby strollers only

2014-04-04 Thread Andy Mabbett
nly in American; in both English AND American it means "a person going for a walk". I can't comment on other English variants (AU, SA, Scots etc.). > > It makes sense to avoid the ambiguity This is where a Wikidata link would usefully add disambiguation.

[Tagging] Tagging with external database identifiers

2014-04-20 Thread Andy Mabbett
.2C_redux -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Making TagInfo more useful

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
It's very disappointing to see this minor feature rewuest: https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47 summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or alternative, please? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Ta

Re: [Tagging] Making TagInfo more useful

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2014 16:06, Tobias Knerr wrote: > On 15.05.2014 12:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: >> It's very disappointing to see this minor feature request: >> >>https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47 >> >> summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or a

Re: [Tagging] Making TagInfo more useful

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2014 11:36, Andy Mabbett wrote: > It's very disappointing to see this minor feature rewuest: > >https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47 > > summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or alternative, please? In the interim, I've created a wrap

Re: [Tagging] Making TagInfo more useful

2014-05-15 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 15 May 2014 20:56, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> summarily closed. > > Can you summarily do something to a single thing? https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/summarily then definition 2 on https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/summary -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonth

[Tagging] Comparing tags in Taginfo

2014-05-19 Thread Andy Mabbett
Following a suggestion I made, Taginfo now allows comparison of tags. See, for example: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/openplaques_plaque/openplaques_id -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list

Re: [Tagging] RFC: Door Values

2014-06-12 Thread Andy Mabbett
, or a walkway from another building. Some buildings (or structures, more widely) have archways with no door, or just a turnstyle, or are open to the outside along a whole wall. All of these, and more, need to be catered for. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] man_made=pipeline - is onewayness implied?

2014-06-22 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jun 20, 2014 2:20 PM, "bulwersator" wrote: > > How I should tag pipelines with unknown direction? FIXME ;-) ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Spelling: vending=news_papers

2014-06-23 Thread Andy Mabbett
mehwere that Wikidata can help. For example, the entry for "newspaper": https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11032 has a "label list" with entries in several tens of languages, e.g. "Premsa" in Catalan and "krant" in Dutch, plus several in languages that use non-west

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

2014-06-30 Thread Andy Mabbett
continue to allow editors to tag with links to Wikipedia articles, but have the editing tool, or a bot, convert the tag to one with the equivalent Wikidata ID (or perhaps add a Wikidata tag, leaving the Wikipedia tag in situ). -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthe

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

2014-07-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
he cathedral, and that tells us which musical works have been premiered there. We wouldn't want to use OSM to store lists of works premiered in the buildings we map. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Subsequent wikipedia links

2014-07-01 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 1 July 2014 16:40, Pieren wrote: > On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Andy Mabbett > wrote: > >> A Wikidata ID is part of a URL and can be rendered as such; for >> example, Q173882 equates to <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q173882> > > It was said at the beg

Re: [Tagging] vending= How to handle food & drinks

2014-07-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
er; but to illustarte that such pinnickety bikeshedding [1], based on one's personal experiences and preferences, is unhelpful and inefficient. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikeshedding -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk _

Re: [Tagging] Religious landuse?

2014-07-16 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Jul 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "John Willis" wrote: > Landuse=religious gives us a generic tag, like landuse retail or commercial, without having to be so specific. I'm going to tag my house and garden landuse=atheism -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pi

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
meals that are cooked and served on the premises." All of that can be done at a McDonalds. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
igh-end department store. That was shortly after I ate my first burger, in a "Wimpy" establishment that had table service. -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreet

Re: [Tagging] Distinction between amenity=restaurant and fast_food

2014-08-03 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 3 August 2014 17:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: >> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 17:15, Andy Mabbett >> ha scritto: >> >> My dictionary defines a restaurant as "A place where people pay to sit >> and eat meals that are cooked and served on the premises

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