On Fri, 24 May 2024, 15:14 Timothy Noname, wrote:
> There is a node 6397545656 marked as amenity telephone but it's a service
only for cyclists to contact the shuttle bus that takes them through the
Dartford crossing.
Sounds more like an intercom than a phone.
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(Although it can be used as I describe above, its primary purpose is
to find, for a given location, nearby Wikidata items that lack
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Would we want to introduce various extra tags for each?
That invokes a slippery-slope fallacy; but consider:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:mapillary
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:flickr
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:=foo
If this would cloud the use of "destination", we could use, say:
inscription:337.5:=foo
What do folk think?
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 08:57, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?
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With all the usual "we are not Wikipedia" caveats, this page might
make useful reading:
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On Tue, 4 Aug 2020 at 09:46, Frederik Ramm wrote:
> On 04.08.20 10:06, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >> Have our tagging voting rules changed recently?
>
> > Which rules?
>
> Should I have written "was our voting process changed recently", or what
> exactly are yo
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 at 22:48, Martin Koppenhoefer
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> > On 20. Aug 2020, at 23:18, Volker Schmidt wrote:
> Or maybe footway=canopy_walkway?
That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway) and can be reduced to:
footway=canopy
or better:
footway=treetop
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>
> > On 21. Aug 2020, at 15:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
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> > That's a tautology (consider: footway=walkway)
> it is not a tautology, it’s a subtype
[We were discussing the suggestion
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>
>
> sent from a phone
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> > On 21. Aug 2020, at 20:53, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >
> > What type of footway is not a walkway?
> >
> > What type of walkway is not a footway?
> >
> >
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> >highway=trunk_hghway
> these are different because it would be a literal repetition.
Do we tag:
highway=trunk_road ?
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2020 at 23:56, Peter Elderson wrote:
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> Do we tag
> highway=motor ?
Is anybody proposing
footway=legs ?
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no "moderation team" on Commons; deletion decisions there are
made by the community of contributors at large (just like edits in
OSM).
Your images sound as though they would be in scope. Did you try to upload them?
Do you have an example of an image which has been deleted from Commons?
ial ones.
I have a pond in my garden. I could, if I had a mind to and a decent
run up, jump over it. Not by any stretch of the imagination is it a
lake, reservoir or basin.
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On Sat, 11 Feb 2023 at 10:07, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> The ‘dry swamp’ has no apparent way to tag it.
Are they also known by some other name?
I ask because I can find no papers about the phenomenon, by that name,
on Google Scholar
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> staff,...
there are at least two possibilities:
phone=
phone:emergency=
phone:staff=
and:
phone=
emergency:phone=
staff:phone=
Neither of which requires "contact:"
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> tag?
> You have examples like tagging all ways that are a part of a street with
> the wikidata item about that street. You can't define those parts in
> Wikidata.
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> grouping itself was flagged as being of listed buildings.
Do you mean categories on Wikimedia Commons? That's not Wikidata.
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rty identifiers (for example, Lidl
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etlands, which happen to have a lake
> within them. Map
> the wetlands and add the wikidata tag to it.
..and create a Wikidata item for (just) the lake.
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https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q314003 /
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q26703203 )
But perhaps this is better done through the templated link to
Q26703203 on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org and/ or Q26703203
/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dstolperstein
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296167.
Can we agree that these should all be removed, or replaced with
suitable sub-tag, ASAP? the sub-tag might be, say:
historic:wikidata=Q2961670
> I would give all these roads part:wikidata=Q29616
I would not.
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bout that street. You can't define those parts in
>>> Wikidata.
>> Use a relation.
> Introducing pointless relation to satisfy unneded rule is pointless.
Indeed it would be.
In this case, though the relation would not be "pointless".
tect Wiki pages unless they are the target of
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On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 15:58, Robert Skedgell wrote:
> I've just been to La Fauxmagerie in Shoreditch, London, a vegan "cheese"
> shop.
shop=hipster
produce=bogus
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Is JOSM correct, what's the preferred alternative, and why is there no
easily-found documntation for this common use case?
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Set of statues in Porto:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2996821310
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:People_looking_the_sky_%28Faro_district%29.JPG
We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or
define a new relation_type:artwork
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> Le 06.02.20 à 13:20, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
> > We could use relation_type:set
>
> why not using relation type=site that already exist ?
Because they are not a "site".
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> I hope to find consensus for how to tag artworks with multiple parts,
> as a relation.
> We could use relation_type:set (which I used for the Moonstones) or
> define a new relation_type:artwork
To further complicate matters I
e full URLs nor the whole
PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors
masquerading as the companies whose commercial sites we depict. And
would in any case be a ridiculous over-reaction, and damaging to our
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/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/...)
From the page headers (extraneous parameters snipped, white space added):
https://www.hilton.com/en/hotels/bhxsadi-doubletree-stratford-upon-avon/";
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On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:46, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
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> On 2/25/20 4:05 AM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> > We should not, of course, remove either the full URLs nor the whole
> > PoIs, since that would open us up to attack from bad actors
> > masquerading as the companies w
start_date= [date]
* operator= [...]
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* wikidata= [QID]
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On Sat, 16 Feb 2019 at 13:46, Eugene Podshivalov wrote:
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> сб, 16 февр. 2019 г. в 16:30, Andy Mabbett :
>> Why would we tag either, when software can calculate them?
> Calculated value may differ from the official one and is error-prone
I would suggest that values entered by hu
On Wed, 24 Apr 2019 at 20:47, François Lacombe
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> The main difference with rivers going through cities is it's often the
> original natural course.
The River Tame, in North Birmingham and in the urban areas north of
the city, has several sections, some concrete-sided and some looking
entir
the wiki is supposed to document current best
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On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 17:26, marc marc wrote:
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> Le 08.05.19 à 18:00, Andy Mabbett a écrit :
> > On Wed, 8 May 2019 at 14:50,
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I
> >
> > Who is "I"? is "wiki_openstreetmap_org.5.kuru" really your name?
practice, and can not dictate it?
> You did notice she has linked to a proposal page, which is a space in the
> wiki explicitly set up to discuss new ideas?
Yes, I did. My point stands.
Or did we change things, and agree that the Wiki is now the de jure
record of authority?
nglish month names.
> opening_hours to keep things simple and to prevent a problem in one affecting
> all of them.
If only there was some sort of ISO standard for representing dates...
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https://billdargue.jimdo.com/placenames-gazetteer-a-to-y/places-h/holloway-head/
which is an historic street name, not a neologism.
That said, I have no view regarding the use of the term in tagging.
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Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground
items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like
material.
I've used surface=rubber, for now, but that's not really accurate.
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On 12 March 2018 at 12:53, Tom Pfeifer wrote:
> On 12.03.2018 13:03, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> Suggestions, please, for tagging the surface underneath playground
>> items like swings and slides, which is made of a soft, rubber-like
>> material.
>>
>> I've us
umb 3
> rubber_grass 3
Whatever the correct value turns out to be, there's an alarming level
of redundancy there.
"Rubber" and "recycled_rubber" should both be "rubber".
"rubbercrumb" and "rubber_crumb" are clearly the same concept.
I wond
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it ranks results
> based on wiki tags. So if you are going through these it would be a great
> time to fix these as well.
It would, but it would be even better to substitute, or add,
wikidata:brand= at the same time.
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On Tue, 15 May 2018 02:36 Paul Allen, wrote:
> at least one other language makes a similar
> distinction to English in that stations are for people, not goods.
The U.K. has (or had) many places named 'Goods Station'.
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back at its starting point is NOT called a "round trip", whether or
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> teaches:esperanto=yes
Do we really want to replicate schools' and colleges' prospectuses?
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e=Rue du Marché aux Poulets - Kiekenmarkt (Belgium, Spain)
* spaces: name=干諾道中 Connaught Road Central (Hong Kong)
* spaced slashes: name=Le Rhin / Rhein (shared boundaries)
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:xx field.
I understand that already.
> p.s. It is not the first time this question pops up.
That can be a sign that something is amiss.
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Tagg
Xstraat", so the sign says Rue X-straat.
> That's true and I always wondered why the community didn't take that
> approach. Map what is on the sign.
Signs can use different fonts, text size, colours and "line breaks" to
indicate meaning which cannot be captured
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> This is a different problem from which separator to use.
I wondered if anyone would remember that question!
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On 16 August 2018 at 22:34, seirra wrote:
> hmmm i do see the point there about racial/class bias... i was thinking more
> about areas that were known crime spots/had associated illegal activities
> people may want to avoid
What, like tax avoidance and insider dealing?
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> In Nederland the Stolpersteine project has caught on and there is a database.
Is that online, please?
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at you add to OSM with the equivalent
Wikidata "QID". If the new database has PIDs for each Stolperstein, I
will propose a new Wikidata property to store those IDs also, so we
will be able to triangulate between the three databases.
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On 26 August 2018 at 12:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> There is also a project to log Stolpersteine in Wikidata:
>
>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_Stolpersteine
P.S. Of course, this also involves adding a photograph of each
individual Stolperstein to Wikimedia Commo
"On 26 August 2018 at 14:22, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 26. Aug 2018, at 13:18, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>> Please tag any Stolperstein that you add to OSM with the equivalent
>> Wikidata "QID".
> Does Wikidata have an item for every Stolperstein
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l or foreign prepared foods".
But note also that the same page says "'Deli' also denotes a small
convenience store or milk bar in [Australia]" and "In the United
States, a delicatessen (or deli) is often a combined grocery store and
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 at 19:27, Rory McCann wrote:
> "shop=books lgbtq=yes" is a LGBTQ book shop,
Wouldn't that be "shop=books books=lgbtq"?
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The wiki tells us to use "leisure=slipway":
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dslipway
but many slipways are primarily for search-and-rescue, fishing craft,
small ferries or other non-leisure uses.
What would be a better tag?
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atures/" to "Key:", the better.
Other issues which are unhelpful to data re-users include keys with
missing documentation; redundant keys ("Key:openplaques_plaque" vs
"Key:openplaques_id"); ambiguous keys ("ref=1234" - ref in whose
database?) and
On 1 April 2014 17:31, Dan S wrote:
> 2014-04-01 16:29 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett :
>> last year's State of the Map.
>
> And well done indeed!
Thank you.
>> I've just modified [[Template:KeyDescription]] by adding
>> two parameters:
>> for &qu
I commend this proposal to the list:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Wikidata
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> know how I can find the corresponding Wikidata ID to go alongside.
Look for a Wikipedia article - in any language. If there is none, it
may be that the Wikidata entry has not yet been created, If so, write
one, and then create it!
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Card microformat (or some other contact metadata) and bring it back
into the preset dialogue for editing and confirmation.
It should also be able to do that with a Wikidata URL or "Q"
identifier, and bring back a range of properties.
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> in the case of a Franchise operator:wikidata would
> not be McDonald's Corp. but the company that
> operates the small restaurant (sometimes it is McD,
> but mostly not).
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> It should be posisble to give JOSM (or other editors)
> the URL of a "contact us" web page, and for JOSM
> to then go to that page, read an hCard microformat
> (or some other contact metadata) and bring it back
> into the pr
e is to make the link wherever a wikdiata entry already
esxists for an entity in OSM, so that the richness of data available
there is linked, and thus exposed to the re-users of OSM data.
We should be able to use bots/scripts/tools to do much of this, BTW.
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On 2 April 2014 11:31, Jo wrote:
> or rather brand:wikidata (which is already in the list)
Please see the proposal's talk page for discussion of how to order the
componets of sub-tags:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Wikidata#Order_of_parts
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On 2 April 2014 15:56, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> On 2 April 2014 13:47, Janko Mihelić wrote:
>
>> "There shouldn't be more than one Openstreetmap item with the same Wikidata
>> ID."
>>
>> Although that's not entirely possible.
>
> There is al
ed to "an hCard microformat or
some other contact metadata".
Was I unclear in my proposal?
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If we do decide on the "_plaque" variant, how do we discourage
colleagues from using "_id"?
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ss/organisation websites actually add these things?
There are many millions of them; but, as noted above, I specifically
referred to "an hCard microformat or some other contact metadata".
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On 2 April 2014 18:37, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> On 02.04.2014 19:25, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> The response probably refers to the fact
> that, unfortunately, very few business websites offer contact data in a
> machine-readable format.
Perhaps, though a number do.
But why would the mach
nly in American; in both English AND American it means "a person going for
a walk". I can't comment on other English variants (AU, SA, Scots etc.).
>
> It makes sense to avoid the ambiguity
This is where a Wikidata link would usefully add disambiguation.
.2C_redux
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It's very disappointing to see this minor feature rewuest:
https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47
summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or alternative, please?
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On 15 May 2014 16:06, Tobias Knerr wrote:
> On 15.05.2014 12:36, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> It's very disappointing to see this minor feature request:
>>
>>https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47
>>
>> summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or a
On 15 May 2014 11:36, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> It's very disappointing to see this minor feature rewuest:
>
>https://github.com/joto/taginfo/issues/47
>
> summarily closed. Can anyone suggest a work-around or alternative, please?
In the interim, I've created a wrap
On 15 May 2014 20:56, Frederik Ramm wrote:
>> summarily closed.
>
> Can you summarily do something to a single thing?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/summarily then definition 2 on
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/summary
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Following a suggestion I made, Taginfo now allows comparison of tags.
See, for example:
http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/compare/openplaques_plaque/openplaques_id
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, or a walkway from another building.
Some buildings (or structures, more widely) have archways with no
door, or just a turnstyle, or are open to the outside along a whole
wall.
All of these, and more, need to be catered for.
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On Jun 20, 2014 2:20 PM, "bulwersator" wrote:
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> How I should tag pipelines with unknown direction?
FIXME ;-)
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mehwere that Wikidata can help. For example, the entry for
"newspaper":
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q11032
has a "label list" with entries in several tens of languages, e.g.
"Premsa" in Catalan and "krant" in Dutch, plus several in languages
that use non-west
continue to allow editors to tag with links to
Wikipedia articles, but have the editing tool, or a bot, convert the
tag to one with the equivalent Wikidata ID (or perhaps add a Wikidata
tag, leaving the Wikipedia tag in situ).
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he cathedral, and that tells us which musical
works have been premiered there. We wouldn't want to use OSM to store
lists of works premiered in the buildings we map.
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On 1 July 2014 16:40, Pieren wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 4:42 PM, Andy Mabbett
> wrote:
>
>> A Wikidata ID is part of a URL and can be rendered as such; for
>> example, Q173882 equates to <https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q173882>
>
> It was said at the beg
er; but to
illustarte that such pinnickety bikeshedding [1], based on one's
personal experiences and preferences, is unhelpful and inefficient.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bikeshedding
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On Jul 16, 2014 1:42 PM, "John Willis" wrote:
> Landuse=religious gives us a generic tag, like landuse retail or
commercial, without having to be so specific.
I'm going to tag my house and garden landuse=atheism
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meals that are cooked and served on the premises." All of
that can be done at a McDonalds.
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igh-end department store.
That was shortly after I ate my first burger, in a "Wimpy"
establishment that had table service.
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On 3 August 2014 17:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> Il giorno 03/ago/2014, alle ore 17:15, Andy Mabbett
>> ha scritto:
>>
>> My dictionary defines a restaurant as "A place where people pay to sit
>> and eat meals that are cooked and served on the premises
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