Re: [Tagging] Route names that aren’t names

 Hm... That's a strange turnaround. The move from name to route_name may seem logical but the result is not. I still would want the end result to be that name=* will hold the clean name without the extras. But for some reason I do not see that happen some time soon... In the meantime, one of t

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Le 02.04.20 à 23:07, Volker Schmidt a écrit : >> The trouble with this is that very few trails are 'designated' for >> riding a bicycle.  They are legal for bikes, hikers, and horses. > > Please not that this is different in at least three countries in Europe: > highway=cycleway excludes any other

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

It seems like most people are saying highway=cycleway should only be used for urban road bicycle paths, not for mountain bike tracks, sparing one or two vocal critics like myself. If that's the overwhelming opinion I can live with it, but we need to 1. update the wiki to make this clearer (which

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 10:40, Morten Lange via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I agree. And I am glad to se that seems to the overwhelming sentimemt on > the list. > > For those who want to produce MTB maps, this example might serve as an > inspiration > > https://mtb.waymarkedtrails.

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Le 03.04.20 à 11:22, Andrew Harvey a écrit : > work out how a dedicated mountain bike track should be tagged if not > highway=cycleway what's on the ground for those way ? I'm in favor of leisure=track sport=mtb ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 20:42, Marc M. wrote: > Le 03.04.20 à 11:22, Andrew Harvey a écrit : > > work out how a dedicated mountain bike track should be tagged if not > > highway=cycleway > > what's on the ground for those way ? > I'm in favor of leisure=track sport=mtb > https://www.google.com/sea

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Le 03.04.20 à 11:54, Andrew Harvey a écrit : > > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 20:42, Marc M. wrote: > > Le 03.04.20 à 11:22, Andrew Harvey a écrit : > > work out how a dedicated mountain bike track should be > > tagged if not highway=cycleway > > what's on the ground for those way ?

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Fri, 3 Apr 2020 at 21:16, Marc M. wrote: > the first page does not show any sign suggesting that > it is also a pedestrian area > imho "It could be" is not enough to add foot=yes > Oh of course, my take is by default routers should assume a designated mountain bike track is discouraged for pe

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

I think using leisure=track for a mountain bike path is even more misleading than highway=cycleway. A feature with leisure=track is usually an oval racing track for runners, track cyclists, or similar sports. This tag is simply not used for mountain bike paths; http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Sjk - on

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 00:01, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > I think using leisure=track for a mountain bike path is even more > misleading than highway=cycleway. > > A feature with leisure=track is usually an oval racing track for > runners, track cyclists, or similar sports. This tag is simply not >

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

I agree with those that do not like highway=cycleway for unimproved mountain bike paths. The assumption for cycleway is generally a paved way (or at least with sufficiently smooth surface) which you can take with any bike (admittedly, 10 years ago I have locally seen some very bad examples of cobbl

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Sat, 4 Apr 2020 at 00:01, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > highway=cycleway + mtb=designated has been used 558 > times: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/Sjl your query target highway=cycleway + mtb=yes Does exit a sign "cycleway not alloed with a mtb" ? if not, this tag add no additional value or is an erro

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

We need to get some order into this discussion before changing wiki pages, please. Designated cycle paths or, more often, designated mixed foot-cycle paths, with the blue round signs, that are unpaved (fine-gravel or even grass surfaces) exist in different countries in Europe. (we have established

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

I too think leisure=track would be even more misleading. I think singletrack should continue to be a highway=* value. I've never heard someone call singletrack a cycleway here in Brisbane Australia, and I always think of commuting when I think of cycleway. - Recreation is just one use of these tra

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Dear All, Discussions continue regarding how to best tag places sheltering refugees and/or internally displaced persons. Before jumping into the discussion regarding the pros and cons of the alternative solutions debated so far, I w

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

> > I think using highway=singletrack could be a good complement to > highway=track, then we can use standard access (default foot=yes, horse=no, > bicycle=yes, motorcycle=no) and surface tagging like we do for > highway=track. highway=path can continue to be the catch all for "a > non-specific pat

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

We do not need a new highway tag value "singletrack". I independently read the Wikipedia article, and had come to the conclusion that a singletrack is clearly highway=path; surface=unpaved; width=*; mtb:scale=*; mtb:scale:uphill=*; mtb:scale:downhill=* and any other tag form the wiki page Mountain

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

No to motorway, a motorway is a divided, limited access highway, distinct from other types of highway.   Trunk is ambiguous, it wouldn't bother me if it was removed. How to miss the point Note the "etc". The wiki for cycleway, the 1st line: "The highway

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:30 AM Volker Schmidt wrote: > We do not need a new highway tag value "singletrack". > Was only making a suggestion to kick the discussion around to what we are actually mapping, because I dislike leisure=track and highway=cycleway. I independently read the Wikipedia art

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Dear Manon, This new proposal is a big improvement over the previous proposal and properly addresses the many objections to place=refugee_site. A flexible namespace with segregated data related to refugee sites will allow ongoing refugee site data maintenance by facilitating operator source data

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Thank you Volker for this sum up For this example https://youtu.be/gJQtmxsx7j4?t=201 We have a path made specifically for mtb, with lot of mtb features, and it's in a mountain bike "sport center". For this kind I see nothing wrong to use leisure=track + sport=mtb For this one https://www.youtube.

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

Naive question here (I'm not a native speaker) but since OSM tagging uses British English, what is a highway=cycleway in this sense? Could it match with a MTB track? Additionally, I would consider that highway is mainly for displacement and transportation (highway=cycleway is for moving around wit

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Thank you for being willing to work on this and listen to suggestions from the community. I agree that, under the current, very broad definition of "amenity=social_facility", a single building which is used as a shelter for refugees could be tagged as "amenity=social_facility", but a large camp wo

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Refugee Site Location

Also, note that it is incorrect to add place=village and landuse=residential to the same area. A place=village or place=town is mapped as a single node, since settled places do not usually have a well-defined boundary, while landuse=residential is mapped as an area. And the landuse=residential ar