Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow orchards. A > meadow orchard is specifically low density/sparse trees, while silvopasture > indicates a forest/woodland, i.e. denser tree cover. > Really? I don't see anything in t

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

sent from a phone > On 18. Sep 2019, at 17:36, Paul Allen wrote: > > In simple signage, yes. But if you asked most people do those signs apply to > coaches > you'd get a variety of answers, because most people think buses and coaches > are > different things (except for long-distance coache

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

Let me summarizeWhy `phone`:- It's more used- It's shorter- Better to find in wikiWhy `contact:phone`:- It's more structured because it's a subkey of `contact`- It's better to find in wiki (for people who think in a "more structured" way)- It's the approved oneBoth let us add more subkeys like `eme

Re: [Tagging] phone vs contact:phone WAS Re: Multiple tags for one purpose

Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:20 Uhr schrieb Valor Naram via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org>: > Let me summarize > > Why `phone`: > - It's more used > - It's shorter > - Better to find in wiki > > Why `contact:phone`: > - It's more structured because it's a subkey of `contact` > - It's better

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:18 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow orchards. A >> meadow orchard is specifically low density/sparse trees, while silvopasture >> indicates a forest/wood

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

Right. Silvopasture combines trees used for forestry with grass for grazing. That means that the trees are used to produce for forestry products: usually wood or timber, sometimes bark, sap, or other non-food products. Orchards produce food: usually fruits like bananas, coconuts or oranges, but a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values for landuse. Specific word combinations are not a good solution So far I know of meadow + fruit trees bovine pasture + aok trees grain + olive trees grain + Almond pigs + trees I am sure there are many more.

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

On 19/09/2019 00:29, Warin wrote: On 19/09/19 07:02, Steve Doerr wrote: On 18/09/2019 18:57, Steve Doerr wrote: Sounds like a road-train to me. Actually I've reallized that the expression I was looking for was 'land train'. I don't think so ... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_trai

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 08:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:18 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen >: > >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >> I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow orchards. A >>> meadow orchard is specificall

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

And what about something like:Landuse=mixed (0 use in taginfo)Landuse:orchard=yesLanduse:meadow=yes I would prefer that compared to secondary_landuse as it is much

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:47, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > Right. Silvopasture combines trees used for forestry with grass for > grazing. > >From the Wikipedia article https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silvopasture: Silvopasture is compatible with fruit, nut, and timber production. Grazing can serve a

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 09:51, Volker Schmidt wrote: > we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values for > landuse. > +1 Specific word combinations are not a good solution > +1 -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstree

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

Oups, wrong key, 32 use of landuse=mixed, sorry. LeTopographeFou

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

It's indeed a lot like that train in Tenerife. Since it's solar powered (supposedly), it's called Zonnetrein. Not a real train, no rails, more like a bus, but specifically targeted to tourists or group events. It's true we don't have a way to map this, so for now I would have been inclined to us

Re: [Tagging] Tourist bus stop

Forgot the link: https://zonnetrein.be/en/ On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:04 PM Jo wrote: > It's indeed a lot like that train in Tenerife. > > Since it's solar powered (supposedly), it's called Zonnetrein. > > Not a real train, no rails, more like a bus, but specifically targeted to > tourists or gr

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

I have to disagree with the wikipedia article. Fruit orchards are not frequently mentioned with "silvopasture" Unfortunately, this term is not defined in any of the British English dictionaries that I've found online, or in reliable American English dictionaries. The only online dictionary definit

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

Hi everyone, I think that this case and my dehesas pose the same problem, which is that the current collection of possible landuses is too narrow. In my opinion there are three options: a) Expand the number of landuse values to adapt to different realities in other parts of the world. Apart from

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

> irrigated vs non-irrigated crops That's a good idea. There is a key irrigated=yes/no in use, that can be added to areas of landuse=farmland, and you can also tag crop=rice for example. But it needs to be documented with a wiki page: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/irrigated There's also

Re: [Tagging] "not:brand" to mark a shop that isn't part of a chain?

On 9/14/2019 10:53 AM, Tim Magee wrote: I would absolutely agree with this use case. Especially for cases such as the regularly mentioned Burger King. If somebody from out of town is either traveling through or armchair mapping they could be confused. If they are using the ID editor, it suggests

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 12:57 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen : > I didn't write it was "dense", I wrote it was "denser", compared to a >> meadow orchard. >> > > I see a range of tree densities in the Wikipedia article. > > it is using the term "woodland". For meadow orchards, I would use the term >> "m

Re: [Tagging] "not:brand" to mark a shop that isn't part of a chain?

I think the idea of the iD developers was to add "not:brand=XXX" when a mapper selects "this is not that brand" in the editor. This would then make it clear that the feature had already been checked and noted to be different than the expected brand based on the name. But wisely, they decided not

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 16:32, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: > > Usually the main land use should be the one that is most economically > important, and also should take up the most land. Most economically important including or excluding subsidies? In Switzerland, farmers receive subsidies for standard

Re: [Tagging] "not:brand" to mark a shop that isn't part of a chain?

19 Sep 2019, 16:52 by tagging@openstreetmap.org: > Personally I have a problem with the asymmetry of work that this > requires from mappers who need to protect their work from iD versus > mappers who blindly "upgrade" using iD. > https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/6517

Re: [Tagging] "not:brand" to mark a shop that isn't part of a chain?

On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 10:52:01 -0400 Jmapb via Tagging wrote: > On 9/14/2019 10:53 AM, Tim Magee wrote: > > I would absolutely agree with this use case. Especially for cases > > such as the regularly mentioned Burger King. If somebody from out > > of town is either traveling through or armchair map

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Utility markers

Hi all, Following useful comments received about the utility markers proposal, it has been reworked a bit. Now marker=* is used to classify markers upon their shape and design, which allows to include already used marker=stone in it. marker=* is intended in the specific context of utility markers

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Utility markers

A link would be better to reach the document https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Utility_markers_proposal Sorry for noise François Le jeu. 19 sept. 2019 à 23:59, François Lacombe a écrit : > Hi all, > > Following useful comments received about the utility markers proposal, it

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

On 19/09/19 18:49, Volker Schmidt wrote: we may have to byte the bullet and allow semicolon-separated values for landuse. Specific word combinations are not a good solution OSM uses landuse=residential as a broad brush that includes recreation and commercial uses. It includes various densities

Re: [Tagging] Motorcycle taxis, pedicabs

On 19/09/19 15:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 13:57, Joseph Eisenberg mailto:joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>> wrote: Is "pedicab" the best British English / International English term for these hired tricycles vehicles? That's what I've always known them as.

Re: [Tagging] Motorcycle taxis, pedicabs

In Yogjakarta (Indonesia) you can hire 5 different rides with different names 1) taxi (motorcar) - called a “taksi” 2) pedicab (pedaled tricycle) - called a “becak” 3) motorcycle “taxi” - called a “Ojek” (a private motorcycle is a “motor) 4) auto rickshaw - called a “bemo” or “bajai” 5) horse-draw

Re: [Tagging] Tagging meadow orchards

sent from a phone > On 20. Sep 2019, at 02:13, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why not landuse=agriculture? As a broad brush it could do well. Could > includes all types of agriculture practice. we already have a broad brush for this field: landuse=farmland Cheers Martin _