Right. Silvopasture combines trees used for forestry with grass for grazing.
That means that the trees are used to produce for forestry products: usually wood or timber, sometimes bark, sap, or other non-food products. Orchards produce food: usually fruits like bananas, coconuts or oranges, but also tea leaves, coffee beans, and fruits used for oil like olives and oil palms. (According to current osm usage) I think a new tag like secondary_landuse or landuse:secondary would be nice so we don’t needn’t tags for every common combination, but I’m ok with orchard=meadow_orchard since it is already in use. Joseph On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:43 PM Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Am Do., 19. Sept. 2019 um 09:18 Uhr schrieb Paul Allen <pla16...@gmail.com > >: > >> On Thu, 19 Sep 2019 at 00:33, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> I agree the term silvopasture is not a synonym for meadow orchards. A >>> meadow orchard is specifically low density/sparse trees, while silvopasture >>> indicates a forest/woodland, i.e. denser tree cover. >>> >> >> Really? I don't see anything in the Wikipedia article that specifies the >> tree cover is dense. >> > > > I didn't write it was "dense", I wrote it was "denser", compared to a > meadow orchard. > > > >> In >> fact, it says: "Integrating pasture into existing woodland presents >> challenges as well: the woodland >> likely needs to be thinned to increase light infiltration" It also has >> pictures of several different >> silvopastures, none of which appear to have dense tree cover throughout. >> > > > it is using the term "woodland". For meadow orchards, I would use the term > "meadow" with trees on it. The term "silvo" also is about a "forest"/woods. > Can you see the difference? > > > > >> Also the meadow in meadow orchard can be used for either pasture or >>> cutting the grass, while silvopasture implies pasture. >>> >> >> The trees scattered throughout would make it more economic to put animals >> out to pasture on >> it than to mow it. But maybe where you are people do things the least >> efficient way. Even if >> that is the case, I doubt that would remain viable for much longer. >> >> BTW, we're probably fooling ourselves in many cases where we say a field >> is pasture or >> meadow: it may change from year to year. >> > > > places in southern Germany used for pasture are often in environments > where (mechanically) cutting the grass is not feasible, due to steep > terrain, or where mowing does not make a lot of sense because the soil is > quite magre. > My point was that "silvopasture" has different connotations, it is about > (some kind of) forest with animals grazing below, while meadow orchards is > about meadows with sparse (fruit) trees on them (or sparse orchards on a > meadow, if you like to put it the other way round). Silvopasture requires > pasture, meadow orchards don't. > > Cheers, > Martin > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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