Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

sent from a phone > On 3. Jan 2019, at 17:02, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > Forgot to mention : > " it follows what `service:bicycle:*` does." > is not true. right, on the contrary service:vehicle doesn’t follow what service:bicycle does, it goes into competition with it Cheers, Martin

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

Am 02.01.2019 um 19:01 schrieb Kevin Kenny: > On Wed, Jan 2, 2019 at 11:39 AM Simon Poole wrote: >> In any case, on your original question, I would tend towards a national >> consensus that doesn't deviate too much from the population guidelines in >> the wiki, if at all reasonable. The US-Haml

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

Even if the tag keys were not propper, you've just removed many specific information about services that were in the values, such as batteries; brakes; electrical; inspection; muffler; oil_change. Without preserving them in any other usefull, or more propper tag if needed. https://www.openstreetm

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Op do 3 jan. 2019 om 13:22 schreef Marc Gemis : > I wonder why it is under "highway", it seems more related to "tourism" > / "information". Current usage: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=trailhead Overpass shows most usage is in the US, Canada and Japan, now also Nederland, and s

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries (Version 1.6)

I think there are some cases that might not be sufficiently covered by the current proposal and it might be a good idea to explain how they can be tagged in example section of the proposal if they can be represented by it: * Minamitorishima, where it is undoubtably a Japanese natural feature, howev

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

Hi, I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion & consideration, but: On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > So which ACTION should we take now ? > At least those who introduced it should be in charge. The ACTION should definitely not be you mass-editing things bac

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries (Version 1.6)

※ I forgot to mention a few other possible cases of disputed border, for one of them I would use the historical dispute of Sikkim's integration into India as an example, where most countries including India recognized the integration of Sikkin into India and there are also no independent government

Re: [Tagging] Vehicle service tags

We don’t call people fools in subject lines on this list. Please check your language before replying. Richard reluctant tagging@ list admin -- Sent from: http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Tagging-f5258744.html ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 1:10 PM Peter Elderson wrote: > > > > Op do 3 jan. 2019 om 13:22 schreef Marc Gemis : >> >> I wonder why it is under "highway", it seems more related to "tourism" >> / "information". > > > Current usage: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=trailhead > > Overpass s

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

I'm trying to go for the minimal tagging that supports the most of the use cases. Which is a node tagged highway=trailhead. It's up to mappers / communities if and how they will apply and embed that according to local, regional or country-specific needs or definitions. Or maybe decide it's not usef

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

8X- Frederik Ramm frederik at remote.org Fri Jan 4 12:29:34 UTC 2019 Hi, I agree there seems to be a problem here that needs careful discussion & consideration, but: On 03.01.19 16:47, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > So which ACTION should

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:22 AM Simon Poole wrote: > The weird thing is the mixing of place and administrative entities which > actually leads to the inversion issues, go back read your text and you > will find it difficult to determine when you are talking about one or > the other. You're right,

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:30 AM Peter Elderson wrote: > I'm trying to go for the minimal tagging that supports the most of the use > cases. Which is a node tagged highway=trailhead. It's up to mappers / > communities if and how they will apply and embed that according to local, > regional or cou

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice *Don't remove tags that you don't understand* https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map *Do not engage in large-scale "cleanups" without se

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Mapping disputed boundaries (Version 1.6)

Thank you for these examples. I will repost them on the discussion page and reply there. Please note a couple of things: 1) This proposal is meant to cover only those things it states as its intention to cover. For instance, it does not cover EEZ boundaries. I have offered a couple of suggestions

[Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

8X- Sérgio V. svolk2 at hotmail.com Fri Jan 4 15:59:48 UTC 2019 As talking on tools, standards and principles, I think what is vital is to follow "OSM principles": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Good_practice *Don't remove tags that you d

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Let's agree to agree! Op vr 4 jan. 2019 om 16:52 schreef Kevin Kenny : > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 8:30 AM Peter Elderson wrote: > > I'm trying to go for the minimal tagging that supports the most of the > use cases. Which is a node tagged highway=trailhead. It's up to mappers / > communities if an

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

Sorry where I said Japan I was wrong, it's actually Taiwan and Philippines. Op vr 4 jan. 2019 om 13:08 schreef Peter Elderson : > > > Op do 3 jan. 2019 om 13:22 schreef Marc Gemis : > >> I wonder why it is under "highway", it seems more related to "tourism" >> / "information". > > > Current usage

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

As a side note, I find those mails with fancy "scissor" lines hard to read, as the actual contribution is hidden somewhere in between. It would help me if you could use the traditional method of quoting with '>' symbols, which is often supported in mail clients with some syntax highlighting.

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 17:24, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > > It would help me if you could use the traditional method of quoting with > '>' symbols, which is often > supported in mail clients with some syntax highlighting. > +1 -- Paul ___ Tagging mailing lis

[Tagging] landuse=landfill : for regular/irregular ones

Many times in Brazil we found irregular landuse=landfill for urban waste disposals. Many times they are simple trash grounds uncontroled. Guess only 10% of them in Brazil are regularized. There are 2 fundamental classes according to its situation: A) "Sanitary Landfill" (in Brazil "Aterro Sanitár

Re: [Tagging] A fool with a tool ... Vehicle service tags

On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 06:23:15PM +0100, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > As a side note, I find those mails with fancy "scissor" lines hard to read, > as the actual contribution is hidden somewhere in between. also breaking threads for every response is a bit too often. Richard ___

Re: [Tagging] landuse=landfill : for regular/irregular ones

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 18:41:19 + Sérgio V. wrote: > Many times in Brazil we found irregular landuse=landfill for urban > waste disposals. Many times they are simple trash grounds uncontroled. > Guess only 10% of them in Brazil are regularized. > > There are 2 fundamental classes according to it

Re: [Tagging] landuse=landfill : for regular/irregular ones

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 19:44, Mark Wagner wrote: > > Would adding "informal=yes" to the dumping grounds work? > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:informal > I'd prefer something other than regular/irregular. Regular can also refer to shape (regular polygons) and intervals of time (regular

[Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

Hi, looking through the wiki can't find how parking space designated for wheelchair/disabled users should be tagged? Richard ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Fri, 2019-01-04 at 21:43 +0100, Richard wrote: > Hi, > > looking through the wiki can't find how parking space designated > for wheelchair/disabled users should be tagged? It is mentioned in the wiki under parking space https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dparking_space#Disabled

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 20:44, Richard wrote: looking through the wiki can't find how parking space designated > for wheelchair/disabled users should be tagged? > See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=parking or capacity:disabled. Note carefully the definition of capacity: it is the

[Tagging] motorcycle tagging

Hi, the DWG has received a complaint about user ti-lo/Rtfm's introduction of motorcycle tags. Until 03 April, the shop=motorcycle wiki page contained this: > The following is a proposal to put this service variety into tags: > > sale=yes/brand/used/no/... - sells whole motorcycles > ren

[Tagging] Trail register

Now that the dicussion of trailheads seems to be converging (whew!), I'd like to reopen a question that has been mentioned here a couple of times in the past, but that I don't recall a satisfactory resolution. In the area where I hike, there are many trail registers. Rather than simply being books

Re: [Tagging] landuse=landfill : for regular/irregular ones

Ok, so we agree, we will start using landuse=landfill + informal=yes just for the informal, uncontroled, ones. Keeping "Sanitary Landfill" as just landuse=landfill. Considering this will apply to thousands from now on. Thank you - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Sérgio - http://www.openstreetmap.or

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: My Overpass-fu is failing me here. The only similar thing I'm turning up is summit=register, which is the "record your visit" case, rather than "you must sign in and out here," and is specific to a mountain peak. There are a few dozen "tourism=register" no

[Tagging] Where to update ID editor "templates" ?

Hi all, searched the wiki for half an hour but couldn't find how these templates work or how I could edit them : https://i.postimg.cc/L4LTvySh/harley1.png The brand according to wikipedia and wikidata is correct, but the OSM brand= -tag got a typo (missing hyphen) https://i.postimg.cc/zGXFz8gR/ha

Re: [Tagging] Where to update ID editor "templates" ?

> Where to update ID editor "templates" https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index Thilo Haug ezt írta (időpont: 2019. jan. 4., P, 22:43): > Hi all, > > searched the wiki for half an hour but couldn't find > how these templates work or how I could edit them : > https://i.postimg.cc/L4LTvy

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

Hmmm. Having recently shepherded a proposal, and one which in the end was radically different from my original version due to valuable input from the OSM community, I say tell him to make a proposal and live with the results of voting or face wholesale reversion of his edits. My two manats’

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On 05/01/19 08:22, Jmapb wrote: On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: My Overpass-fu is failing me here. The only similar thing I'm turning up is summit=register, which is the "record your visit" case, rather than "you must sign in and out here," and is specific to a mountain peak. There are

Re: [Tagging] wheelchair designated parking space tagging?

Possibly there needs to be a main wiki page for 'disabled' features tagging, toilets, tactile paving, parking, access. On 05/01/19 07:58, Paul Allen wrote: On Fri, 4 Jan 2019 at 20:44, Richard > wrote: looking through the wiki can't find how parking space design

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

I would like a 'discussion' with the user on the tagging list. The tagging "sale" will generate 'discussion' with me ... I think that should be 'sells'. I have voiced that before on this list, my view has not changed. On 05/01/19 09:12, Allan Mustard wrote: Hmmm. Having recently shepherded a

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:21 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > I have one near me. > Some are more of a 'route register' - you state your intended route as > there are several choices, if not here then later. Probably best to > include this in any definition. The ones here, too - the last c

Re: [Tagging] Where to update ID editor "templates" ?

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 08:03, Imre Samu wrote: > > Where to update ID editor "templates" > > https://github.com/osmlab/name-suggestion-index > Yep, that's the spot - I asked this question last week https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2018-December/041666.html As Bryan said, "So jus

[Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

Following a discussion on osm-carto [1], I am looking for a suitable tagging of taxi services that are not passenger cars. Examples are motorcycle taxis and rickshaws. While the original approval for amenity=taxi (32k) [2] does not specify the vehicle type, some additions were introduced in 20

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

Alternately, we could use amenity=motorcycle_taxi and amenity=pedicab(? is this the British terminology?) Here in Indonesia there are separate, unrelated words for each type of hired vehicle, and they serve different markets. In a way they are all related, just like buses, streetcars and subways a

Re: [Tagging] amenity=taxi vehicle type

On 05/01/19 10:34, Tom Pfeifer wrote: Following a discussion on osm-carto [1], I am looking for a suitable tagging of taxi services that are not passenger cars. Examples are motorcycle taxis and rickshaws. While the original approval for amenity=taxi (32k) [2] does not specify the vehicle typ

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

> “We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.” Ha! Not a bad idea for NY/NJ/Connecticut But I think you mean admin_level=5? ;-) On Sat, Jan 5, 2019 at 12:25 AM Kevin Kenny wrote: > On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 6:22 AM Simon Poole wrote: > > The weird thing is the mixing of place and

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On 05/01/19 09:35, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2019 at 5:21 PM Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: I have one near me. Some are more of a 'route register' - you state your intended route as there are several choices, if not here then later. Probably best to include this in any definition.

Re: [Tagging] Dispute on tagging place=* in Turkmenistan

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 20:25 Joseph Eisenberg > “We made up a sui generis admin_level=3 for New York City.” > > Ha! Not a bad idea for NY/NJ/Connecticut > > But I think you mean admin_level=5? ;-) > Yes, I miscounted. Oops! > ___ Tagging mailing list Tag

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On Fri, Jan 4, 2019, 20:26 Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com wrote: > > The one near me is not a trail head ... probably because there would be > too much vandalism if it were on the commonly used areas, so it is at a > place where the trail walkers pass by but the normal public don't go. > > I do know

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

Yes, should definitely be a full proposal & discussion before a major change is pushed through by one user. Thanks Graeme ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 07:23, Jmapb wrote: > On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > > > Has anyone here tagged anything similar to the case I have in mind of, > > "you must sign in/sign out/record your passage, and here's where you > > do it?" > > Personally I'd be inclined to ignore the legal

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On 05/01/19 14:02, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 5 Jan 2019 at 07:23, Jmapb > wrote: On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Has anyone here tagged anything similar to the case I have in mind of, > "you must sign in/sign out/record your passage, and

Re: [Tagging] motorcycle tagging

On 05/01/19 12:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Yes, should definitely be a full proposal & discussion before a major change is pushed through by one user. Not mandatory in OSM ... "Any tags you like". ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org