Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-24 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
Martin: > “pompe bianche” is a meta category you will not find on the ground in this part either, rather there will be signs with brands you never heard about. > I would leave brands that are already there, and would not tag nobrand=yes because there is some kind of brand.I'm quoting to brand wiki

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2018, at 09:57, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: > > IMHO all records tagged brand="Pompe Bianche" don't have well-known name nor > well-known operator. well known by whom? If there is a sign I would think it is sufficient, and I still have to find a petrol station

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-24 Thread Cascafico Giovanni
The issue is: do we really want to drop unfranchising information? nobrand=yes tag seems reasonable: how can it damage the quality of import? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread seirra
Is there a way to put what currency denomination they output? for example: whilst every cash machine here should theoretically output £20/£10 notes, there are a growing number that output £5 notes (obviously allowing the user to withdraw multiples of 5 rather than just multiples of 10). I imagi

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-08-24 11:29 GMT+02:00 Cascafico Giovanni : > The issue is: do we really want to drop unfranchising information? > nobrand=yes tag seems reasonable: how can it damage the quality of import? > You still haven't told us what it means. Which brands count and which don't? Cheers, Martin ___

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
How is this verifiable? Do they write it on the machine what kind of notes are contained? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 14:22 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > How is this verifiable? Do they write it on the machine what kind of > notes are contained? > Certainly not verifiable, sometimes they may give you a choice but not always. Cashback again would be hard to verify, its only available

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 1:44 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 14:22 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > How is this verifiable? Do they write it on the machine what kind of notes > are contained? > > Certainly not verifiable, sometimes they may give you a choice but not > always

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Evacuation Routes

2018-08-24 Thread Eric H. Christensen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 9, 2018 11:57 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: > I'm opening up my Evacuation Routes proposal[0] for voting. I think we've had > two good sessions of discussions for ironing out the bugs and it's time to >

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread seirra
i can confirm this to be the case. where i work the cashback procedure is indeed just a signature of the receipt. As far as i know ATMs that issue £5 notes tend to for a long time, i don't recall any here suddenly stopping. source on why it may be valuable information to some (note the small nu

[Tagging] How to tag Summer/Winter admin_centres (in Indian states)?

2018-08-24 Thread egil
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_and_union_territories_of_India Some of the states have different summer and winter admin_centres. JOSM complains if I put more than 1 admin_centre in a boundary relation. See https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/1950884 (mumbai =winter only

[Tagging] Time to deprecate place=region and boundary=region?

2018-08-24 Thread egil
I began looking at this after finding a boundary=region in Ladakh, India that caused this region admin_level=5 not to show up in nominatim or on the main map. Of the tags mentioned below only place=region has a wiki-page where it is not marked as deprecated. I much prefer boundary=administra

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 3:38 PM, seirra wrote: > i can confirm this to be the case. where i work the cashback procedure is > indeed just a signature of the receipt. As far as i know ATMs that issue £5 > notes tend to for a long time, i don't recall any here suddenly stopping. > ATMs have a finit

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread seirra
i would imagine it would be better having some data over none though? the main thing that got me thinking about this really, was that if we got the ability to tag this out there, could we then for example convince link atm to use osm for their data? i figured it was best only contacting them af

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Shawn K. Quinn
On 08/24/2018 05:35 AM, seirra wrote: > Is there a way to put what currency denomination they output? for > example: whilst every cash machine here should theoretically output > £20/£10 notes, there are a growing number that output £5 notes I'm not sure this is something we should try to keep up to

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:38 PM, seirra wrote: > i would imagine it would be better having some data over none though? > Incomplete data is better than no data. Incorrect data is worse than no data. The problem with this is that incomplete (or even complete) data can become incorrect over time

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread seirra
as an example, say a cash machine dispenses £10 and £20 notes... you can't guarantee you'll get 20s can you? but what you do know, is you can get any multiple of 10. so maybe the standard notation could be that you put currency, the currency code, then the smallest amount you can get? as the sm

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Philip Barnes
On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 19:41 +0100, Paul Allen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 6:38 PM, seirra > wrote: > >    > > > >    > >    > > i would imagine it would be better having some data over none > >   though? > > > > Incomplete data is better than no data.  Incorrect data is worse t

Re: [Tagging] ATMs and cashback

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:48 PM, seirra wrote: > as an example, say a cash machine dispenses £10 and £20 notes... you can't > guarantee you'll get 20s can you? > You can't guarantee you'll get 10s, either. It could run out of 20s first. It could run out of 10s first. It could be out of both.

Re: [Tagging] delivery areas?

2018-08-24 Thread Greg Troxel
seirra writes: > I was thinking more to the tune of specific things like charity shops > or smaller stores where it may not be standard I think this doesn't belong in the OSM database. If you could get shops to publish an API endpoint with a geojson of their delivery area, we could add that UR

Re: [Tagging] nobrand

2018-08-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Fri, 24 Aug 2018 at 18:29, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 24. Aug 2018, at 09:57, Cascafico Giovanni > wrote: > > > > IMHO all records tagged brand="Pompe Bianche" don't have well-known name > nor well-known operator. > > well known by whom? If there is a sign I would think it is suffici

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Evacuation Routes

2018-08-24 Thread Warin
Err no. Think you 'll find  is a requirement for a minimum number of votes? On 24/08/18 23:42, Eric H. Christensen wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On August 9, 2018 11:57 AM, Eric H. Christensen wrote: I'm opening up my Evacuation Rou

[Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Daniel Koć
Hi, We're currently discussing special rendering of memorials on OSM Carto and Stolpersteine looks like a problematic case, because all other types seem to embrace memorial=* notation, while Stolpersteine are usually using memorial:type=* notation. Here is a link to German forum where I started t

[Tagging] Slow vehicle turnouts

2018-08-24 Thread Dave Swarthout
I've been trying to decide tagging for slow-vehicle turnouts consisting of a lane added to the right side (in the U.S.) of the road so that slow moving vehicles can pull aside to allow following vehicles to pass. The best I can come up with is the tag highway=passing_place but strangely it applies

Re: [Tagging] How to tag Summer/Winter admin_centres (in Indian states)?

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 24. Aug 2018, at 18:13, egil wrote: > > JOSM complains if I put more than 1 admin_centre in a boundary relation. Here is also a province with multiple admin centres https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2203582 Josm validator (or any validator) is ok, but doesn’t kn

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2018, at 01:48, Daniel Koć wrote: > > Stolpersteine looks like a problematic case, because all other types > seem to embrace memorial=* notation, while Stolpersteine are usually > using memorial:type=* notation. there are a few other tags that also use the memo

Re: [Tagging] Slow vehicle turnouts

2018-08-24 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On Sat, 25 Aug 2018 at 10:18, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I've been trying to decide tagging for slow-vehicle turnouts consisting of > a lane added to the right side (in the U.S.) of the road so that slow > moving vehicles can pull aside to allow following vehicles to pass. The > best I can come up w

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Paul Allen
On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:48 AM, Daniel Koć wrote: > > We're currently discussing special rendering of memorials on OSM Carto > and Stolpersteine looks like a problematic case, because all other types > seem to embrace memorial=* notation, while Stolpersteine are usually > using memorial:type=*

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.08.2018 o 02:38, Martin Koppenhoefer pisze: > there are a few other tags that also use the memorial:type key, e.g. > “plate”, flood_mark It would be good to have uniform tagging scheme and I encourage to do it. Stolpersteine is the biggest cause for this subkey to exist and is very loca

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 25. Aug 2018, at 02:49, Paul Allen wrote: > > See also https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:memorial%3Dstolperstein which > says memorial=stoplerstein is preferred should say by whom it is “preferred”, it clearly isn’t preferred by the mappers, only 0.5% usage. ;-)

Re: [Tagging] Slow vehicle turnouts

2018-08-24 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 8:18 PM Dave Swarthout wrote: > > I've been trying to decide tagging for slow-vehicle turnouts consisting of a > lane added to the right side (in the U.S.) of the road so that slow moving > vehicles can pull aside to allow following vehicles to pass. The best I can > com

Re: [Tagging] Stolpersteine tagging scheme problem

2018-08-24 Thread Daniel Koć
W dniu 25.08.2018 o 02:49, Paul Allen pisze: > I did some searching pretty much at random and found > https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4892971695 which has > memorial=stoperstein + memorial:type=stolperstein, which is one way of > handling the problem. Dual tagging of a single feature is just a