[Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dadit the tag "depth" should be used for the length of an adit (horizontal mine entrance). According to wiki discussion, people seem to agree that "length" is a better tag for this, as "depth" is used to indicate how deep (vertically) s

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread muzirian
> "length" is a better tag for this, as "depth" is used to indicate how deep (vertically) something is. +1 cheers On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 1:52 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dadit the > tag "depth" should be used for the length of

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Michal Fabík
Sounds reasonable to me. If it's horizontal or near-horizontal, depth makes no sense. -- Michal Fabík On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > According to https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dadit the > tag "depth" should be used fo

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Volker Schmidt
Is there anyone from the mining industry? I looked a this Wikpedia article [1] and ge confused. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_in_a_well On 11 May 2017 at 10:54, Michal Fabík wrote: > Sounds reasonable to me. If it's horizontal or near-horizontal, depth > makes no sense. > > -- > Micha

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Colin Smale
In UK English (not sure about other dialects!) "depth" is often used in a horizontal sense. The depth of a cupboard or a shelf for example, or the depth of a hole you have drilled. The depth of an adit would make perfect sense to me - indicating how far it penetrates into the substrate. If it is st

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Bjoern Hassler
HI Phil, hi Colin, in the case of 4a/4b etc I would put in different stop points. If 4a always serves one route, then 4a would be added to the route relation. Maybe if 4a / 5a / 6a can all serve the same route, then I don't know what the solution is Maybe you just add a new stop point somewher

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Colin Smale
Hi Bjoern, On 2017-05-11 11:17, Bjoern Hassler wrote: > HI Phil, hi Colin, > > Colin: Actually, in the case you mentioned (short/long trains), I guess there > could also be several stop points. I think that's not a problem. It's just > you would only add one of those to the route relation. F

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi Colin, Colin: Actually, in the case you mentioned (short/long trains), I guess > there could also be several stop points. I think that's not a problem. It's > just you would only add one of those to the route relation. For the several > stop points, ideally there would be a note, saying "front

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Philip Barnes
On Thursday, 11 May 2017, Bjoern Hassler wrote: > HI Phil, hi Colin, > > in the case of 4a/4b etc I would put in different stop points. If 4a always > serves one route, then 4a would be added to the route relation. Maybe if 4a > / 5a / 6a can all serve the same route, then I don't know what the so

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2017-05-11 11:14 GMT+02:00 Colin Smale : > In UK English (not sure about other dialects!) "depth" is often used in a > horizontal sense. The depth of a cupboard or a shelf for example, or the > depth of a hole you have drilled. The depth of an adit would make perfect > sense to me - indicating how

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk-be] Missing oneway:bicycle=no / Wiki editing

2017-05-11 Thread André Pirard
On 2017-05-10 21:08, Thilo Haug OSM wrote: > > Hi André, > > according to this documentation, > the tagging mailing list is the wrong platform to address this : > "*If you have ideas for the wiki, you can generally just do them, by > editing the wiki! * > If you need any assistance the *wikiteam*

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 10-05-17 18:58, Bjoern Hassler wrote: Hi all, I've got the following question for clarification. Suppose you have a relation: osm:relation:route (type=route, route=train/...), with nodes as stops. (1) The wiki says that the node in this re

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 10-05-17 18:59, Bjoern Hassler wrote: Hello again, In an osm:relation:route (type=route, route=train/...), you have both platforms and stop positions. How is a particular platform associated with a stop that serves it? E.g. for public tra

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi Tijmen, hi Martin, many thanks! Bjoern On 11 May 2017 at 22:34, Tijmen Stam wrote: > On 10-05-17 18:58, Bjoern Hassler wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I've got the following question for clarification. Suppose you have a >> relation: osm:relation:route >>

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Bjoern Hassler
Hi Tijmen, many thanks. Yes, I understand the wiki that way too, i.e. suggest one stop_area for the station and associated infrastructure. Follow up question: In the relation you have .../stop/platform/stop/platform/stop/platform/... - would you agree with the convention that the stop comes firs

Re: [Tagging] rail routes: how are platforms and stops associated (rail question 2)

2017-05-11 Thread Warin
On 12-May-17 07:45 AM, Tijmen Stam wrote: On 10-05-17 18:59, Bjoern Hassler wrote: Hello again, In an osm:relation:route (type=route, route=train/...), you have both platforms and stop positions. How is a particular platform associated with

Re: [Tagging] change recommendation from "depth" to "length" for the adit length?

2017-05-11 Thread Steve Doerr
deep, adj.: 1. a. Having great or considerable extension downward. b. Having great or considerable extension inward from the surface or exterior, or backward from the front. (Oxford English Dictionary) Both senses are dated from the Anglo-Saxon period. Steve On 11/05/2017 09:54, Michal Fabí

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 11. May 2017, at 23:34, Tijmen Stam wrote: > > In my view, a fully mapped (simple) station should have a railway=station > node, and a public_transport=platform and public_transport=stop_postion per > platform/track. I would use an area for the station, which would b

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread John Willis
> On May 12, 2017, at 8:03 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > I would use an area for the station Unless something has changed in the last year or so, this is not possible because no good tag for it exists (and it breaks -carto) My first trouble as a new mapper in 2013 was about this, an

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone On 12. May 2017, at 07:52, John Willis wrote: >> I would use an area for the station > > > Unless something has changed in the last year or so, this is not possible > because no good tag for it exists (and it breaks -carto) it is defined for areas in the wiki and accor

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 12. May 2017, at 07:52, John Willis wrote: > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1457 this was closed as duplicate, so they are aware there is an issue. In the discussion the only argument (by Nakaner, a rail enthusiast) is that there are 3 d

Re: [Tagging] rail routes and stations (rail question 1)

2017-05-11 Thread Michael Reichert
Hi, Am 2017-05-12 um 08:07 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer: > this was closed as duplicate, so they are aware there is an issue. > In the discussion the only argument (by Nakaner, a rail enthusiast) > is that there are 3 different legally relevant areas for train > stations in Germany, so the German r