Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 00:14:48 + Philip Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 15:22 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Tobias Knerr > > wrote: > > > Sure, but the sidewalk attribute is essential for other, much more > > > basic > > > use cases that separate w

[Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems the Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) but JOSM reports an error when coded that way. WTF? I want to use a tag written in English that describes a certain tree Is this correct? 1) wikipedia=en.wik

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 03:00:47PM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems the > Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) but JOSM > reports an error when coded that way. WTF? > > I want to use a tag written in E

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 09:29:18AM +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 03:00:47PM +0700, Dave Swarthout wrote: > > Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems the > > Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) but JOSM > > reports

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-25 9:00 GMT+01:00 Dave Swarthout : > I want to use a tag written in English that describes a certain tree > Is this correct? > > 1) wikipedia=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak > > or this? > > 2) wikipedia:en=wikipedia.org/wiki/teak > the common syntax for the generic case is: wikipedia=en:Te

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On Nov 25, 2015 8:00 AM, "Dave Swarthout" wrote: > > Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? > I want to use a tag written in English that describes a certain tree > Is this correct? > > 1) wikipedia=en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teak > > or this? > > 2) wikipedia:en=wikipedia.org/wi

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-25 8:59 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > "unless the mapper provides a lot of connections to the > road" - or data is properly used. can you elaborate on this? How can you use data properly if important information is missing (which footway belongs to which road, how are they separated o

Re: [Tagging] Relevance or otherwise of the wiki

2015-11-25 Thread Gerd Petermann
I've just updated the english wiki for ford http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ford#Deprecated_Tags I learned that most of the text is generated by a macro, I'd prefer to have my text above the Taginfo block. I am not an experienced wiki editor, is that possible? Gerd __

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
Ah, thank you, Andy. For some reason I missed that on the Wiki page. I knew it didn't want the "http://"; stuff but never studied it past that point I reckon. I do include the wikidata ref when it's present. I've wanted to add a species to wikidata but they have my VPN's IP address blocked and nob

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 25 November 2015 at 12:13, Dave Swarthout wrote: > I do include the wikidata ref when it's present. I've wanted to add a > species to wikidata but they have my VPN's IP address blocked and nobody > answers my pleas for help. Screw them if they don't want my help. Very > frustrating. I *think*

[Tagging] Forest parcels and national/municipal forest: how to map?

2015-11-25 Thread David Marchal
Hello, there. I'm wondering how to map 2 things: 1) forest parcels: some people use a boundary relation with boundary=forest_compartment, but this seems mainly used in Eastern Europe, so geographically limited; others map each parcel with landuse=forest and then use ref=* to give the parcel num

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread Paul Johnson
On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Philip Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 15:22 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: > > > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Tobias Knerr > > wrote: > > > Sure, but the sidewalk attribute is essential for other, much more > > > basic > > > use cases that separate ways

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread André Pirard
On 2015-11-25 09:00, Dave Swarthout wrote : Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems the Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) but JOSM reports an error when coded that way. WTF?

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 16:11:01 +0100 "André Pirard" wrote: > On 2015-11-25 09:00, Dave Swarthout wrote : > Can someone provide the correct way to tag a wikipedia link? It seems > the Wiki wants it one way and JOSM another. The wiki wants version 1) > but JOSM reports an error when coded that way. W

Re: [Tagging] Relevance or otherwise of the wiki

2015-11-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 10:08:54 + Gerd Petermann wrote: > I've just updated the english wiki for ford > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ford#Deprecated_Tags > > I learned that most of the text is generated by a macro, > I'd prefer to have my text above the Taginfo block. > I am not an e

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-11-25 19:51 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > In that case that there is no article about this particular tree using > wikipedia tag is incorrect. Use wikipedia:species or similar key. > I suggest doing it the other way round (not the species of wikipedia, but the wikipedia article for the sp

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Mateusz Konieczny
On Wed, 25 Nov 2015 21:23:13 +0100 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > 2015-11-25 19:51 GMT+01:00 Mateusz Konieczny : > > > In that case that there is no article about this particular tree > > using wikipedia tag is incorrect. Use wikipedia:species or similar > > key. > > > > > I suggest doing it the

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Tue, 2015-11-24 at 16:51 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 4:14 PM, Philip Barnes > wrote: > > They are not matching reality, can cause long detours and poor > > routing > > unless the mapper provides a lot of connections to the road. > > Remember > > normal pedestrians c

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread Philip Barnes
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 10:27 +0900, John Willis wrote: > > > On Nov 25, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Philip Barnes > > wrote: > > > > Remember > > normal pedestrians can cross wherever they want > > > People with vision impairments or wheelchairs can't - so directing > them to crosswalks with kerb cuts/sl

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
Here are the tags I include in my JOSM preset for a species of tree I want to include in OSM.

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread John Willis
> On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:09 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > Wheelchair routing would need to used sloped curbs, in most cases in a > residential area these will be driveways If they are in a residential area with sidewalks, then the sidewalks and their junctions with the roads are mappable. And t

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
Please use "species:wikidata=Q140957". The wikidata=* tag should be used only when the thing you are tagging is exactly, not more or less, the thing described in the wiki article. So for example, you can tag the tree Árbol del Tule [1] with wikidata=Q252182 [2] and species:wikidata=Q1429751 [3]

Re: [Tagging] Wikipedia

2015-11-25 Thread Dave Swarthout
Thanks Janko. I'm glad I posted my presets. I thought I was doing everything right but apparently I missed another fine point. I will adjust my tagging accordingly. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 7:46 AM, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Please use "species:wikidata=Q140957". The wikidata=* tag should be used >

Re: [Tagging] Sidewalk Tagging for Routing

2015-11-25 Thread John Willis
Javbw > On Nov 26, 2015, at 6:18 AM, Philip Barnes wrote: > > adding parallel ways which do not exist on the > ground. Sidewalks are parallel ways with very different access restrictions that exist on the ground - so I'm not sure what you mean. I can easily see them and their crosswalks and

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

2015-11-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:46 AM, Erik Johansson wrote: > > amenity=diy_tool_station > bicycle=yes > iceskates=yes > locked=yes > opening_hours=during games. > > I only know of one for iceskates though, can I can't remember why it > wasn't made a generic tag, the current tag is a bit like > subway

Re: [Tagging] amenity=bicycle_repair_station

2015-11-25 Thread Bryce Nesbitt
On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 1:27 PM, Andy Townsend wrote: > An alternative suggestion - lobby the authors of iD to include the word > "repair" in the "bicycle shop" description, or otherwise influence the > search results. If you search for "bicycle", bicycle shop is ahead of > bicycle repair statio