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Am 04.11.2015 um 07:16 schrieb John Willis :
>> The network is ran/owned by a government institution, the actual power
>> distribution by commercial providers. So when you want a contract to get
>> electricity you go to a commercial entity. So building=civic is not suitable
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> Am 04.11.2015 um 07:22 schrieb Gerd Petermann
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> E.ON,RWE,Vattenfall and EnBW.
> I am sure there are offices somewhere, but probably not for the public.
>
of course there are, at least in the big cities...
cheers
Martin __
The reason why we have two different mapping approaches for mini-roundabout
and roundabout is that at least in one country (that happens to be the
birth-country of OSM) there is a clear distinction between the two with
different road layouts (see
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads
Hi Martin,
I know a shop in my town driven by EWE .
They sells power, internet access, telephone lines and maybe more.
I would not call that an office, EWE calls it "EWE ServicePunkt"
Gerd
Von: Martin Koppenhoefer
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. November 2015 09:14
2015-11-04 9:49 GMT+01:00 Gerd Petermann :
> I would not call that an office, EWE calls it "EWE ServicePunkt"
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>
well. then call it a shop or an amenity. Banks for instance are amenities
in OSM. You are right that "office" is typically used for back offices
(i.e. no customers, or only by appoint
2015-11-04 8:24 GMT+01:00 johnw :
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> there's a difference: flowerbed is the place inside which the flowers are
> put, tree is the plant itself
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>
>
> I think you are thinking of a flower box.
>
no
> googling flowerbed leads to a sm
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 5:12 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> The building tag is about the building itself,
That is a good point. I don't want to throw all this in amenity.
It isn't a shop...
Office=*. ?
I always assume that a building at this level is usually dedicated, but I guess
th
On Tue, Nov 03, 2015 at 05:35:53PM +0100, Colin Smale wrote:
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> Hi Gerd,
>
> Personally from a navigation point of view I expect roundabouts and
> mini-roundabouts to be treated the same, i.e. "take the first exit at
They are currently not - Most navigational software basically does
not kn
thanks for the link to the pdf, I think it shows that OSM is again a bit too
close to UK rules ;-)
In Germany roundabouts are getting more popular, but they require more
space, and unused space is rare here.
Gerd
Von: Volker Schmidt
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. No
Just to add to the fun, we're now getting a new type of roundabout, with a
different-coloured circle of tarmac and no signs (or markings) at all. I'd
use a node if the mini-roundabout is just an ineffectual piece of traffic
calming, and make a circle if people genuinely give way (yes I know that's
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 6:53 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> while front facing offices often get the shop tag.
Most offices that provide customer service for existing services or billing
resolution don't seem like a shop.
If the role for shop=* is so expansive, then it should be documen
2015-11-04 7:17 GMT+01:00 Georg Feddern :
> If you read (and use) _only_ traffic_sign:forward - I suppose you read
> only the german wiki page and then I understand your problem, because that
> can not work in all cases.
> If you read the english wiki page, you may understand the intention better
2015-11-04 10:00 GMT+01:00 John Willis :
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> That is a good point. I don't want to throw all this in amenity.
>
why not? There's still room ;-)
>
> It isn't a shop...
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> Office=*. ?
maybe we should distinguish between amenity (open to the public) and office
(no public admitted)?
I'd maybe
Hi Martin,
I think you are mixing two things now. I talked about the "As part of a way"
part, not the "On a way or area" part,
which looks even more weird to me.
Besides that: Yes, I also think that we should map a traffic_sign as a node
with the position of the sign.
Gerd
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Javbw
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 7:01 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer
> wrote:
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> everything's an object ;-) (if you want/need to)
In a general sense, everything is a node, way or area object, yea.
But a flower field is not a man_made=* object, in the common OSM usage.
It's not "man_made=forest" becau
That depends on how the mini-roundabouts are modelled in the route
network, so it's chicken and egg. I mentioned what I would expect, and
you are right, that's not always how it happens now. But if I ask a
fellow human for directions, they will call it a roundabout, as in "turn
left at the round
I just notice that center_barrier or center_obstacle would
be US spelling, so it has to be centre_*
In other words, we should probably not use a key that is
different in UK / US spelling, else we'll see many wrong
entries.
Another problem that I see here is that we allow to map
a roundabout as
Maybe we should have roundabouts as a relation, containing all the road
segments which should produce a closed polygon. Then we put the centre
obstacle stuff on the relation. That would be closer to the OSM model of
having one OSM object for one real-world object. Then a magic roundabout
could b
I want to use natural=flowerbed (or another tag which will be agreed here)
to a flower field grown naturally (not planted by man). Is it appropriate?
Some natural flower field (for example Katakuri or Mizubasho flower) are
famous in Japan. They are usually protected but not planted.
It's happy for
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> Am 04.11.2015 um 11:29 schrieb John Willis :
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> But a flower field is not a man_made=* object, in the common OSM usage.
I think it's not that different to a cutline for instance, which is one of the
most used values in man_made. I don't insist in man_made for a flowerbed
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> Am 04.11.2015 um 12:52 schrieb tomoya muramoto :
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> I want to use natural=flowerbed (or another tag which will be agreed here) to
> a flower field grown naturally (not planted by man). Is it appropriate?
to me (non-native) flowerbed doesn't sound right. What about landus
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Gerd Petermann <
gpetermann_muenc...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
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>
> I think the wiki
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:junction%3Droundabout
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> is very clear about this, one has to connect the roads in a single node
>
> and add the tag highway=mini_r
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 8:52 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote:
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> to a flower field grown naturally (not planted by man). Is it appropriate?
AFAIK that a natural open area of grasses is natural=grassland.
If it is a bit taller stuff, possibly natural=scrub ( like the 1m tall green
plants growing along
Thanks.
landuse=meadow looks fine to me. I will add meadow=perpetual and
taxon/genus/species=* to that natural flower fields.
muramoto
2015-11-04 21:03 GMT+09:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
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> > Am 04.11.2015 um 12:52 schrieb tomoya muramoto >:
> >
> > I want to use natural=
For Mizubasho, most famous field is Oze swamp(but sorry I have never been
there) due to a famous japanese fork song, you know.
I remember natural Katakuri flower field at the top of Mt. Tsukuba. They
say there are 30 thousand Katakuri flowers in 20,000 m2 area (
http://www.ttca.jp/?p=1552), they ar
Mateusz Konieczny writes:
> On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 14:59:41 +0200
> David Marchal wrote:
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>> Thanks for the full story, Lauri. I understand now why the subject
>> seems so sensitive to some. I retain from your story, if I correctly
>> understood it that:* the current usage of minor_line/line is t
Here's a picture of some mountain flowers (the tiny pink ones) on
Kusatsu-shirane, near Kusatsu. They look natural, but they were all planted and
maintained as a tourist attraction. They were not native to the area.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/javbw/11094084766/
The picture I took is not so
In Toronto there are overhead signs that say something like "EXPRESS
AND COLLECTOR MOVING VERY SLOWLY BEYOND NEXT TRANSFER" (on Highway
401). Sometimes these signs will have safety messages like "DO NOT
DRINK AND DRIVE" or will show the name of the next few exits, or will
display that there is an a
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