[Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Elena ``of Valhalla''
On 2010-10-02 at 17:06:38 +0200, Colin Smale wrote: > Absolutely, and many other factors as well. But the point is that it has > no relation to the legal maximum speed, which is the current definition > of the maxspeed tag except that maxspeed should probably be the upper > limit of the speed

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Woll Newall
We definitely need an "average speed" tag, to improve routing. In my area the road speeds vary a lot depending on the amount of traffic, which means that the "fastest" routes selected by routing algorithms are often not good because the journey goes along roads where the traffic is nearly s

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Woll Newall wrote: > We definitely need an "average speed" tag, to improve routing. I very much disagree that this should be a tag. If it's going to be included, it should be in a separate table or set of tables. Hacking up a system to put average speed informati

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Ralf Kleineisel
On 10/03/2010 04:17 PM, Anthony wrote: > You'd also need information about how the average speed was measured, > when it was measured, how accurate it can be expected to be. When > different people come up with different measurements using different > methods, you have to have a method to choose

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ralf Kleineisel wrote: > Many things in OSM are subjective. I don't know about "many", but yes, there are some things in OSM which are subjective, and therefore shouldn't be there. > Having a tag which enables us to indicate "this road > normally can be driven at

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Ralf Kleineisel
On 10/03/2010 05:04 PM, Anthony wrote: > Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I don't see how it would be. Well, where I live (Germany) we have a legal limit of 100 kph on roads outside of cities, motorways excluded. This legally applies even to small roads if there is no sign indicating

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Peter Wendorff
On 03.10.2010 17:16, Ralf Kleineisel wrote: On 10/03/2010 05:04 PM, Anthony wrote: Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I don't see how it would be. Well, where I live (Germany) we have a legal limit of 100 kph on roads outside of cities, motorways excluded. This legally applies even

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Anthony
On Sun, Oct 3, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Ralf Kleineisel wrote: > On 10/03/2010 05:04 PM, Anthony wrote: > >> Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I don't see how it would be. > > Well, where I live (Germany) we have a legal limit of 100 kph on roads > outside of cities, motorways excluded. This l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Colin Smale
On 03/10/2010 17:36, Peter Wendorff wrote: On 03.10.2010 17:16, Ralf Kleineisel wrote: On 10/03/2010 05:04 PM, Anthony wrote: Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I don't see how it would be. Well, where I live (Germany) we have a legal limit of 100 kph on roads outside of cities, m

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Pierre-Alain Dorange
Ralf Kleineisel wrote: > > Maybe it's just because of where I live, but I don't see how it would be. > > Well, where I live (Germany) we have a legal limit of 100 kph on roads > outside of cities, motorways excluded. This legally applies even to > small roads if there is no sign indicating a low

[Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-03 Thread Dave F.
Hi Has anybody tagged an Animal rescue centre. A place where abandoned/rescued animals are homed until a new home can be found? I can't find anything appropriate in tag search. I think Animal rescue centre would be the best option if nobody has an alternative. Cheers Dave F.

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-03 Thread John Smith
On 4 October 2010 05:35, Dave F. wrote: > I think Animal rescue centre would be the best option if nobody has an > alternative. Wouldn't this just be another type of shelter? shelter=animal ? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://l

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/3 Ralf Kleineisel : > would be much, much better than nothing. Right now when I make a > routable map for a Garmin GPS I can set the road_class and road_speed > only by looking at the Highway=* tag. This can lead to strange speed > estimates. I think a simple "typical speed" tag would be ve

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-03 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/10/3 John Smith : > On 4 October 2010 05:35, Dave F. wrote: >> I think Animal rescue centre would be the best option if nobody has an >> alternative. > > Wouldn't this just be another type of shelter? > shelter=animal ? THere is a proposal: animal=shelter http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/D

[Tagging] Doorgetrokken middenstreep

2010-10-03 Thread Colin Smale
Sinds kort bestaat de N201 tussen Vinkeveen en de A2 nu (in OSM) uit twee wegen met oneway=yes, alsof het gescheiden weghelften zouden zijn. Ik heb altijd begrepen dat alleen fysieke afscheidingen tellen (zie [1]), en die zijn er daar niet, alleen een doorgetrokken streep. Maar ik had me al ve

Re: [Tagging] Tagging average speed [Was: Re: Residential roads]

2010-10-03 Thread Steve Bennett
On Mon, Oct 4, 2010 at 1:17 AM, Anthony wrote: > I very much disagree that this should be a tag.  If it's going to be > included, it should be in a separate table or set of tables. Agreed. The entire world is not in scope for OSM. When we hit things like this, we need to say "this is not in scope

Re: [Tagging] Animal rescue centre

2010-10-03 Thread Sean Horgan
I was just thinking about adding animal to the social facility feature proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/social_facility We use the "for" subtag to specify who the facility would be used by. A natu