Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-10 Thread OSMDoudou
, 2018 03:41 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Urbex https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2018-January/018279.html On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Andy Mabbett mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> > wrote: On 8 January 2018 at 23:39, Kevin Ken

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Kevin Kenny
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-us/2018-January/018279.html On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 7:32 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 8 January 2018 at 23:39, Kevin Kenny > wrote: > > > Witness municipalities asking us to remove their > > streets from the map > > When & where did that happen? > >

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 8 January 2018 at 23:39, Kevin Kenny wrote: > Witness municipalities asking us to remove their > streets from the map When & where did that happen? [off-topic for the tagging list, so please feel free to point me to an alternative venue] -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread OSMDoudou
A lot of good food for thought, be it in favor or not in favor of mapping it. Thanks for the feedback. I could see room for mapping, potentially in great details even (e.g. is there under-water exploration, cave exploration, toxic material detected, what kind of hazards you could be exposed to,

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread moltonel
On January 8, 2018 11:39:51 PM GMT+00:00, Kevin Kenny wrote: >On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer > >wrote: > >> are we encouraging / supporting / recommending something because we >map >> it? >> > >Some seem to think so. Witness municipalities asking us to remove their >streets

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Tijmen Stam wrote: > +1 as well. As an active explorer, I wouldn't encourage mapping those. > It has no use outside the very close and sometimes closed community, which > has many means (fora, facebook pages) to share those locations. > > Also, most urban explorers

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Tijmen Stam
On 09-01-18 08:01, Michal Fabík wrote: On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:35 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: Should it be mapped at all? Hi, I don't think it should be mapped. I used to take part in it years ago and I can tell you that the environments where UrbEx can be practiced are so highl

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Michal Fabík
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:14 PM, marc marc wrote: > if it is a specialized place for urbex training, it is interesting to > add leisure=urban_exploration and/or urbex=yes I'm pretty sure there's no such thing as "urbex training". Urbex is essentially climbing over rusted chain-link fences, walking

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread marc marc
it depends on what it is. if it is a specialized place for urbex training, it is interesting to add leisure=urban_exploration and/or urbex=yes. if it is to describe that this place is usable in urbex as half the city or is likely to host activities often illegally, I find it inappropriate to add

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Warin
On 09-Jan-18 10:41 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Having said that, yes, we should be mapping some dangerous areas (mine shafts & minefields are 2 that come to mind), but as a warning to not go there. I know of one minefield area that is mapped the same way westerners map speed cameras

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-09 Thread Moritz
+1 for Michal's thoughts. Thus not mapping it explicitly. Whoever wants to find spots suitable for Urbex should look for ruins/abandoned etc. Regards Moritz ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Michal Fabík
On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:35 AM, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Should it be mapped at all? Hi, I don't think it should be mapped. I used to take part in it years ago and I can tell you that the environments where UrbEx can be practiced are so highly varied I can't think of any meaningful

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Warin
On 09-Jan-18 08:51 AM, OSMDoudou wrote: Hello, I stumbled upon this place: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2994322059. I initially thought Urbex would be the former name of the factory ("Exploitation de craie abandonée" = "abandoned clay exploitation" in English), but it seems it rather stan

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
That's the question - are we? If we're showing a spot on the map that you can go exploring potentially hazardous, possibly out-of-bounds areas, then are we supporting the idea, & if so, should we be? It's one thing to say "this is an abandoned factory", but should we then be pointing out that peop

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Kevin Kenny
On Mon, Jan 8, 2018 at 6:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > are we encouraging / supporting / recommending something because we map > it? > Some seem to think so. Witness municipalities asking us to remove their streets from the map, public land managers asking us not to map certain trails, and

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2018-01-08 23:12 GMT+01:00 Graeme Fitzpatrick : > I don't know if OSM should be seen to be possibly supporting / > recommending / encouraging it? > are we encouraging / supporting / recommending something because we map it? Cheers, Martin ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] Urbex

2018-01-08 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
On 9 January 2018 at 07:51, OSMDoudou < 19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238...@gmx.com> wrote: > Hello, > I stumbled upon this place: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2994322059. > >From reading the Wiki article, in conjunction with the little I already knew of the concept, it strikes me as a bo