Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On 26/05/18 23:13, Tod Fitch wrote: On May 26, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: sent from a phone On 24. May 2018, at 05:47, Tod Fitch wrote: By the way, I don’t see a way to tag the accuracy or confidence level for a measurement. Seems like we ought to have something like *:

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

> On May 26, 2018, at 5:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > > sent from a phone > >> On 24. May 2018, at 05:47, Tod Fitch wrote: >> >> By the way, I don’t see a way to tag the accuracy or confidence level for a >> measurement. Seems like we ought to have something like *:confidence=

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

sent from a phone > On 24. May 2018, at 05:47, Tod Fitch wrote: > > By the way, I don’t see a way to tag the accuracy or confidence level for a > measurement. Seems like we ought to have something like *:confidence=*, > similar to the *:lanes tagging so we could, for example tag the width of

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On 24/05/18 13:47, Tod Fitch wrote: On May 23, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Paul Johnson > wrote: On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org>> wrote: In th

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

> On May 23, 2018, at 7:57 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch > wrote: > >> On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson > > wrote: >> >> In the case of your typical bog standard American residential s

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 12:31 PM, yo paseopor wrote: > Case B: some pics before > https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=41.46210902249982&lng=12. > 874923250143638&z=17&pKey=ygjsHztch9KkrIILOPA3Jg&focus= > photo&x=0.4957587433175&y=0.4652742508751958&zoom=0.3348214285714282 > > lanes=1, impossib

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 10:34 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane situation. I'd be > inclined to mark unpainted lanes in

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Also I add oneway=no Salut i marques vials yopaseopor On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Tod Fitch wrote: > > On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane s

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018 at 7:15 AM, wrote: > > > > > *From:* yo paseopor > *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:11 > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools < > tagging@openstreetmap.org> > *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane marki

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Case B: some pics before https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=41.46210902249982&lng=12.874923250143638&z=17&pKey=ygjsHztch9KkrIILOPA3Jg&focus=photo&x=0.4957587433175&y=0.4652742508751958&zoom=0.3348214285714282 lanes=1, impossible to be estimated:lanes=2 , instead of some itallian driver would t

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

> On May 22, 2018, at 12:48 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > > In the case of your typical bog standard American residential street, I'm > strongly disinclined to agree that this is a two lane situation. I'd be > inclined to mark unpainted lanes in the cases where channelization regularly > occurs

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

El mié., 23 de mayo de 2018 9:28, Javier Sánchez Portero < javiers...@gmail.com> escribió: > > > Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't > enough wide for two cars to pass comfortably (see here > https://goo.gl/maps/6PC2Wfkfw7A2 like the van has to put the wheel in t

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-23 8:07 GMT+02:00 José G Moya Y. : > @Martin:I don't want to be a troll, but I feel there is some inconsistence > between answers in this thread and answers in cycle:lanes last week. > Here are mapillary images for the 2 examples I gave, Case A, for me lanes=2, unmarked: https://www.mapi

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

From: Javier Sánchez Portero Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 17:27 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings Anyway, for your example of the LR-333 road, most of the time it isn't enough wide for two cars to

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

lar). Disculpe las erratas. No veo bien > la pantalla... > > El 23/5/2018 7:16, escribió: > > > > > > *From:* yo paseopor > *Sent:* Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:11 > > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools < > tagging@openstreetmap.o

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On 23 May 2018 at 08:07, José G Moya Y. wrote: > @Martin:I don't want to be a troll, but I feel there is some inconsistence > between answers in this thread and answers in cycle:lanes last week. Exactly. I too prefer to not dilute the current definition of the lanes key because it corresponds to

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

:11 *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings oneway=no lanes=1 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYQQwOGMPC6imwyGhMHMCg I would consider that wrong. lanes=1 oneway=no is a road that is so narrow that oppos

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

From: yo paseopor Sent: Wednesday, 23 May 2018 04:11 To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Subject: Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings oneway=no lanes=1 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYQQwOGMPC6imwyGhMHMCg I would consider that wrong

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

On Tue, May 22, 2018, 11:29 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > 2018-05-22 17:18 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch : > >> In reviewing the wiki in preparation to fixing some of my older mapping, >> it seems there is an inconsistency in how to tag a road that is wide enough >> to two lanes of traffic but is lackin

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

I'm not completely sure of what you want tou express. When you say "a oneway one-wide-lane", I think you refers to a oneway=yes, lanes=1 (correct me if not). I'm referring to a two way road (oneway=no) with enough width for two approaching cars to pass each other without having to slow down or use

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Javier, I don't know if it has enough sense to use a new tag to tag something we have already tagged or not. But try it in Spain, overtake a Guardia Civil de tráfico car or motorbike in a oneway one-wide-lane and expect it ;) Salut i marques viales yopaseopor __

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

I agree with the solution mentioned by Thorsten. The keys oneway=no + [lanes=2] + division=no have much more sense to me than tagging lanes=1 + oneway=no for this kind of highway (just the same width that a two lanes way but without division). A proper value could serve to indicate also that the d

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 20:10 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > > Think about it : with more than one lane you can overtake legally. With > only one lane you cannot overtake in your same direction because you don't > have any lane to pass by. > Not sure about the jurisdiction you write about, but also this is perfec

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 18:33 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > One of the problems of driving in Rome is that people overtakes you in a > one-lane-street for every side they can turn it. If police would punished > them this problem will not exist as not exists in the other countries of > Europe. > in Germany this

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

You have other tags to mark there is more than one direction: oneway=no I think it is important to keep the sense of the wiki, why? Because , with data you can "imagine" (or render) some kind of reality. It is not the same: 1 oneway=no lanes=1 https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYQQwOGMPC6imwyGhMH

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 18:33 GMT+02:00 yo paseopor : > I'm not agree with that , Martin > Road markings are real, touchable, checkable, objective...estimated width > and estimated lanes not. OSM data serves to a lot of apps with lane > indications, if we drop this then the apps will show erroneous information

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

Personally, I tend to tag roads that are wide enough for 2 lanes (two cars can pass each other without noticeably slowing down) and which are clearly meant to be two lane (one lane each direction) roads with: lanes=2 divider=no Yes, I know that is in violation of the strict reading of the wiki,

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

I'm not agree with that , Martin Road markings are real, touchable, checkable, objective...estimated width and estimated lanes not. OSM data serves to a lot of apps with lane indications, if we drop this then the apps will show erroneous information or less exact information. One of the problems

Re: [Tagging] Sample tagging for highways with no lane markings

2018-05-22 17:18 GMT+02:00 Tod Fitch : > In reviewing the wiki in preparation to fixing some of my older mapping, > it seems there is an inconsistency in how to tag a road that is wide enough > to two lanes of traffic but is lacking lane striping. > > In the lanes description [1] it says "the lane