Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-10-02 Thread Colin Smale
On 02/10/2010 02:07, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/30 Colin Smale: Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including width and curviness you may never achieve anywhere near that in practice. th

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-10-02 Thread Steve Bennett
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 6:52 PM, Pieren wrote: > Could you provide some examples of such "various programs" because this > distinction is new for me. I think cloudmade does this. Also, GPSes that do routing estimate speeds based on road type, I believe. I'm sure I've read someone's analysis of ho

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-10-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/30 Colin Smale : > Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. > Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including > width and curviness you may never achieve anywhere near that in practice. this depends on the vehicle and the expertise o

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-10-01 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/30 Pieren : > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Could you provide some examples of such "various programs" because this > distinction is new for me. > So it means that a slow speed road serving industrial or retail areas are > for you "residential roads" ? My definitio

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-10-01 Thread Dave F.
On 30/09/2010 12:38, Colin Smale wrote: Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including width and curviness you may never achieve anywhere near that in practice. Only stupid people think that beca

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/10 8:36 AM, Nathan Edgars II wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Richard Welty wrote: On 9/30/10 7:38 AM, Colin Smale wrote: Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including width an

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 8:15 AM, Richard Welty wrote: > On 9/30/10 7:38 AM, Colin Smale wrote: >> Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. >> Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including >> width and curviness you may never achieve anywh

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/10 7:38 AM, Colin Smale wrote: we as mappers have no control over how the different routing systems select default speeds. we should not be making assumptions about that. Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. Many country roads may have a high legal lim

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Colin Smale
> we as mappers have no control over how the different routing systems > select default speeds. we should not be making assumptions about that. Also important for routing systems is the "practical speed" for a road. Many country roads may have a high legal limit, but for reasons including width a

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/30/10 4:52 AM, Pieren wrote: On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Steve Bennett > wrote: Probably the simplest distinction is that various programs treat "unclassified" as a fast country road (eg, 100+kph), and "residential" as a quiet residential street

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-30 Thread Pieren
On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Probably the simplest distinction is that various programs treat > "unclassified" as a fast country road (eg, 100+kph), and "residential" > as a quiet residential street (eg, 50-60kph). Take your pick. > > Could you provide some examples of

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-29 Thread Nathan Edgars II
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Steve Bennett wrote: > If the houses have public street addresses (eg, 46 Jones St), I make > them highway=residential. If they're addressed within the context of > the development/retirement village/caravan park (eg, lot 15, Jones > Park), I'd use something like

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-29 Thread Steve Bennett
Hi Stephen, You've highlighted two grey areas I often struggle with. On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 6:01 PM, Stephen Hope wrote: > First, I've recently done a couple of roads in the country. They're > either dead end roads or form some sort of web but are not connecting > roads in the sense that they

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/28/10 9:08 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: 2010/9/28 Richard Welty: but do get the speed limits and set maxspeed, as otherwise any routing software will likely make wrong assumptions. if there is no posted speed limit, find the one for the state in which you are mapping as again, routing so

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-28 Thread M∡rtin Koppenhoefer
2010/9/28 Richard Welty : > but do get the speed limits and set maxspeed, as otherwise any > routing software will likely make wrong assumptions. if there is no > posted speed limit, find the one for the state in which you are > mapping as again, routing software will otherwise be forced to > make

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-28 Thread Richard Welty
On 9/28/10 4:31 AM, Florian Lohoff wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 06:01:40PM +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: First, I've recently done a couple of roads in the country. They're either dead end roads or form some sort of web but are not connecting roads in the sense that they go anywhere else in part

Re: [Tagging] Residential roads

2010-09-28 Thread Florian Lohoff
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 06:01:40PM +1000, Stephen Hope wrote: > First, I've recently done a couple of roads in the country. They're > either dead end roads or form some sort of web but are not connecting > roads in the sense that they go anywhere else in particular. One > example is about three or