Am 22.03.2015 um 23:11 schrieb Warin:
> On 23/03/2015 1:20 AM, fly wrote:
>> Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis:
>>> There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military
>>> installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to
>>> map things on that location,
On 23/03/2015 1:20 AM, fly wrote:
Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis:
There was a big bruhaha about any mappers mapping Israeli military
installations. They were deleting everything and leaving notes not to map
things on that location, if I remember correctly.
I don't know the details
Am 17.03.2015 um 07:26 schrieb John Willis:
>> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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>> "AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map
>> military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever -
>> it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make law
> On Mar 19, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer
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>> Am 18.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb John Willis :
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>> simply appending "private:" on existing public tags is not preferred, though
>> the simplest to execute and avoids having to redefine everything in the
>> world ag
> Am 18.03.2015 um 14:47 schrieb John Willis :
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> simply appending "private:" on existing public tags is not preferred, though
> the simplest to execute and avoids having to redefine everything in the world
> again.
I think prefixing private: is a viable idea, it can be easily filtered o
I agree with Martin on not changing the definition of tags where public access,
or a subset of the public (customers) is inherent in the tags definition
through tag modifiers.
But everyone is envisioning a future where information about private facilities
would eventually become part of OSM -
2015-03-18 12:58 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
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> the operator doesn't tell you anything about access rights, property
> structure, "publicness" etc.
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It is about the entity _operating_ a feature / object / thing.
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It doesn't, but it tells you who decides on those things. That's as much
deta
2015-03-18 12:44 GMT+01:00 :
> Am I missing something here? What's the matter with the current schema?
> If it is essential that a toilet in a power plant is mapped then why not
> amenity=toilet and access=private?
according to the current schema you cannot tag like this (and I don't want
to
2015-03-18 12:30 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić :
> It would require us to add operator tags to every single object inside
>> another object with the same operator tag, if I got you right.
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> Only to the ones that are by default used by public, so toilets,
> waste_disposals, and so on.
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the operat
Am I missing something here? What's the matter with the current schema? If it
is essential that a toilet in a power plant is mapped then why not
amenity=toilet and access=private?
Or a better example, a toilet in a train station that is for staff only
amenity=toilet access=private or access=
2015-03-18 12:15 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
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> It would require us to add operator tags to every single object inside
> another object with the same operator tag, if I got you right.
>
Only to the ones that are by default used by public, so toilets,
waste_disposals, and so on. But they ar
2015-03-18 11:52 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić :
> if that toilet is tagged with amenity=toilets it is a tagging error and
>> the tag should be fixed or the object completely removed. The toilets tag
>> is for "toilet[s] open to the public".
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> Well, it is a toilet, and it is an amenity, although a
2015-03-18 11:38 GMT+01:00 Martin Koppenhoefer :
if that toilet is tagged with amenity=toilets it is a tagging error and the
> tag should be fixed or the object completely removed. The toilets tag is
> for "toilet[s] open to the public".
>
Well, it is a toilet, and it is an amenity, although a pr
2015-03-18 11:28 GMT+01:00 Janko Mihelić :
> So theoretically, we shouldn't ban anything from being mapped (or almost
> anything). But practically, we don't want people being routed to the
> nearest toilet that is actually inside a power plant. How do we fix this?
if that toilet is tagged with
So theoretically, we shouldn't ban anything from being mapped (or almost
anything). But practically, we don't want people being routed to the
nearest toilet that is actually inside a power plant. How do we fix this?
One way could be to add a prefix like "private:"
to anything that is by default p
Not sure what you mean by “Private Objects”, anything in the DB is capable of
being displayed, depending on whether the Renderer wants to. Nothing is
Private in OSM.
Jonathan
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Does the default rendering on the slippy map on OSM's main page show
private objects? If it does, then there is a loss of privacy. If it
doesn't, then there is a loss of feedback to mappers.
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"Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that.
Ahh. That makes more sense.
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Javbw
> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:20 PM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
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>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM, johnw wrote:
>> so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good?
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> I was referring to the dumpster (the rolling trash can m
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> On Mar 17, 2015, at 3:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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> "AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map
> military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever -
> it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for
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> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142911/history
ps - that is a work yard next to a substation. And I have driven to work yards
to repair computers, and I would sure like to know where the driveway is.
The actual driveway in the substation is not mapped, though the gates to enter
are
On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 10:57 PM, johnw wrote:
> so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good?
>
I was referring to the dumpster (the rolling trash can mapped twice within
the substation).
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"AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map
military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever -
it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for
their citizens to do this, but is it changing anything for me?
2015-03-17 6:57 GMT+01:00 jo
so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good?
Aren’t the driveways in a substation part of the stubsation, just like like all
the other detail that is recorded for the powerline system or fence for the
substation?
I am against rendering.. umm.. “distribution” lines, but if mapping the
On 17/03/2015 10:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
"Please do not map private objects in private space. In general if
the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not useful to
a member of the public, please don't add it to the database. Note
it is fully OK to map facilities within membersh
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