"AKA military installations in certain countries" I would happily map military installation in Russia/North Korea/Iran/USA/whatever - it is not illegal for me. Maybe they can make laws making it illegal for their citizens to do this, but is it changing anything for me?
2015-03-17 6:57 GMT+01:00 johnw <jo...@mac.com>: > so the driveways are bad, but the powerlines are good? > > Aren’t the driveways in a substation part of the stubsation, just like > like all the other detail that is recorded for the powerline system or > fence for the substation? > > I am against rendering.. umm.. “distribution” lines, but if mapping them > is your thing, then go ahead. the power lines, especially the transmission > lines, are totally, utterly private , off-limits, and lethal. And mapped. > The driveway seems to be much less… dangerous or clutter inducing. > > Unless it is lawfully off-limits (AKA military installations in certain > countries) or behind private doors, then anything is mappable. It may not > be good to map it, but it is mappable. Just like the trees or the tracks > around the substation. > > Once we start doing indoor mapping, then the same thing will apply as well > - the examples listed below are for private spaces inside a building, and > those “backroom” or “private” spaces of homes and publicly accessible > buildings will have to be unmapped in some way. The mapping notes below > sound good. > > However even indoors, the paths connecting to fire escapes, hoses, and > other safety items in public accessible buildings should be mapped, even if > they go through a private loading dock or hallway, maybe. just another case > where mapping a private path might be a good idea even in the future for > indoor stuff. > > some kind of exception for safety or somewhat visible to the public - > especially if it is part of the road network. > > Deleting a driveway seems a bit too much. > > Javbw > > > On Mar 17, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Bryce Nesbitt <bry...@obviously.com> wrote: > > > I almost, but not quite, pressed delete on these: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142910/history > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/272142911/history > They're private objects within a private gated electrical substation. > > Similar to toilets inside people's homes, it feels like these should not > be mapped. > Scattering access=private tags on the dumpsters and enclosing ways feels > like > a hack. > > The dividing line set by the community remains murky. How about: > > > "Please do not map private objects in private space. In general if > the object could create a privacy concern, or is just not useful to > a member of the public, please don't add it to the database. Note > it is fully OK to map facilities within membership or fee based venues, > as long as the facilities are reasonably available to members of the > public." > > *Examples not to map*: toilets in homes, employee only toilets in > businesses, private recycling bins, playgrounds in private homes or day > care facilities. > > *Examples to map: *toilets inside DisneyLand, buildings visible from air > photos, private facilities with a history of public "permissive" use. > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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