Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 22, 2015, at 11:18 AM, John Eldredge wrote: > > If you have signals facing each of the directions at an intersection, will > all of the signals at that intersection share the same name, or are they > named separately, so that an intersection where two roads cross would have > four di

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

If you have signals facing each of the directions at an intersection, will all of the signals at that intersection share the same name, or are they named separately, so that an intersection where two roads cross would have four different signal names? -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:46 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > Severe problem: Different names I did a quick look around, and this signal-grid naming issue seems to be pretty big, but only in Hokkaido. I never noticed this, as I have not been to Hokkaido yet. several cities up there (Sapporo, Ch

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 13, 2015, at 7:46 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > However officially (legally) the name is "place" name. It causes some > problems. I understood it to be the signals were named after the places - not the places themselves.And only *sometimes* named for places. Places are named with pl

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

In Japan, a name plate is attached to a traffic signal, but the name is widely recognized as "junction" name. So I think it's reasonable to tag it as a junction. However officially (legally) the name is "place" name. It causes some problems. Small problem: No junction http://www.openstreetmap.org

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Javbw > On Nov 13, 2015, at 6:45 AM, John Eldredge wrote: > > Could you have a named signal at a named junction, with different names? Afaik, named road junctions do not exist in Japan (motorway junctions are named, but not normal roads with signals) I am not sure about other places.

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Named junctions Javbw On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar mailto:sea...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'd suggest to use a node tagged place=junction with name=* or ref=* for this. What do you think? From what I rem

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 10:14 PM, Andrew Errington wrote: > > Surely this is a rendering problem? > > In other words, if there are many named traffic lights within a > certain distance of each other then only one symbol/name/whatever > should be rendered? If the traffic lights are all tagged the

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 9, 2015, at 9:38 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > *You want to establish a new tag such as traffic_signals_area to solve > multiple signals rendering. > *Opinions on the new tag are welcome from Japanese/Asian community because > rendering of traffic signal and its name is very importa

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

2015-11-09 14:14 GMT+01:00 Andrew Errington : > It could be something like "when a named traffic light node is found, > add it to a group with that name. When it's time to label the map, > decide how much space is available for the label, depending on the > zoom level. At low zoom, draw a single

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Surely this is a rendering problem? In other words, if there are many named traffic lights within a certain distance of each other then only one symbol/name/whatever should be rendered? If the traffic lights are all tagged the same then it ought to be even easier. Adding an area with a tag is ju

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Hi Javbw, I want to confirm your point. *You want to establish a new tag such as traffic_signals_area to solve multiple signals rendering. *Opinions on the new tag are welcome from Japanese/Asian community because rendering of traffic signal and its name is very important for (car) navigation in J

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

On Mon, Nov 9, 2015 at 11:59 AM, johnw wrote: > Google Maps is actually two different sets of data: Google’s and a Japanese > GIS company, Zenrin. They have basically surveyed all of Japan building by > building, and everything is drawn area based (because the roads in Japan can > be such weird s

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

2015-11-09 11:59 GMT+01:00 johnw : > This “necessity” to show signals is common among Japanese maps and > properly localized maps. I want OSM to be just as good. I can understand this desire, and given what was said in this respect, it seems reasonable / indispensable for your region to show th

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 7:17 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > As for me, signals rendering seems not to be a big problem I was looking around at the other maps, and the one I really like the look of is Mapion. http://www.mapion.co.jp/m2/36.396593778361435,140.5346977118126,15

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

> On Nov 8, 2015, at 7:17 PM, tomoya muramoto wrote: > > I'm a Japanese mapper, and I thank you for your work on Japan/Asia specific > problems. > It's very tough to read and understand a long discussion in English, so maybe > I'm lack of full understanding on this issue. Just trying to solve

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

I'm a Japanese mapper, and I thank you for your work on Japan/Asia specific problems. It's very tough to read and understand a long discussion in English, so maybe I'm lack of full understanding on this issue. I'm sorry I couldn't grasp this problem at this time. *Signals rendering is dependent on

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

(This Was sent earlier but looks like it wasn't received. Cleaned up/ clarified a bit and sent again). > On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:30 PM, Marc Gemis wrote: > > However, I do not see why the "ignorance" of the non-Asian mappers Full disclosure: I am an American. I moved to Japan in 2011, and my c

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Oh, sorry, I did not yet notice this one :-( So forget my suggestion. Gerd Von: Andrew Errington Gesendet: Freitag, 6. November 2015 09:35 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Named junctions We already use junction

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

endet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2015 23:47 > An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Named junctions > > > > > > Javbw > On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar > mailto:sea...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > I'd suggest to

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Von: John Willis Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. November 2015 23:47 An: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Named junctions Javbw On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar mailto:sea...@gmail.com>> wrote: I'd suggest to use a

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 11:47 PM, John Willis wrote: > Traffic_signals_area was an attempt to solve this, but as this isn't an > issue in Europe, it was ignored. Thanks a lot John for this explanation (which I left out of the quote) of the Japanese needs. However, I do not see why the "ignorance

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

Javbw > On Nov 6, 2015, at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: > > I'd suggest to use a node tagged > place=junction > > with name=* or ref=* > for this. What do you think? > From what I remember - in Korea they name junctions, and in Japan they actually name the signals themselves. I k

Re: [Tagging] Named junctions

This has been discussed somewhat last year: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-July/018517.html https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2014-September/019338.html See also this tagging proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tagging_for_complex

[Tagging] Named junctions

I've learned that in some countries each junction has a name/ref and that these are used for navigation. At small junctions you may just find a node with a name tag, but at larger junctions or roundabouts I see all kinds of "tricks" to place an object with a name. I'd suggest to use a node ta