Re: [Tagging] What separator do you use for multiple value

2023-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Semicolon https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Semi-colon_value_separator On Wed, Jun 14, 2023, 9:23 AM Niels Elgaard Larsen wrote: > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 11:26:27 +0200 > Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > >the semicolon is standard for most cases, for multilingual names > >dashes and slashes are

[Tagging] [RFC] Feature Proposal - Replace `*:signed` suffix key with `signed:*` prefix key

2023-02-01 Thread Zeke Farwell
Cross postig from the forum: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-replace-signed-suffix-key-with-signed-prefix-key/8459 Westnordost wrote: > Hey there. > > I’ve created a proposal to replace *:signed suffix key with signed:* > prefix key 7 >

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-30 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Fri, Dec 30, 2022 at 2:51 PM Dave F via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > I think this inconsistency is bad for OSM. > > Many ways don't have names, even if they have routes along them. They are > just footpaths, & tracks etc. > > This instance on giving them a name tag is fake. It'

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-29 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 1:08 PM Peter Elderson wrote: > So most of the time this would be an error, but you can't be sure without > survey. > I agree on the survey part, but not on the "most of the time" part. Sometimes it's an error, sometimes it's not. How likely it is to be one or the other

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-29 Thread Zeke Farwell
hat's ok. On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 10:38 AM Jmapb wrote: > On 12/29/2022 10:13 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: > > Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name. However, > sometimes there is no local trail name and the long distance route name is > the only name. In t

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

2022-12-29 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 9:15 AM Dave F via Tagging < tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote: > > The actual way routes progress along often have their own, different, > name. These should be ithe name placed in the way's name tag. > Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name. However, s

Re: [Tagging] Foot / sidewalk access tagging

2022-12-18 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Sun, Dec 18, 2022 at 6:33 PM Minh Nguyen wrote: > Vào lúc 15:00 2022-12-18, Zeke Farwell đã viết: > > I'll try to answer the original question as succinctly as possible. As > > I understand it, the combination foot=no + sidewalk=separate means > > walking is not all

Re: [Tagging] Foot / sidewalk access tagging

2022-12-18 Thread Zeke Farwell
I'll try to answer the original question as succinctly as possible. As I understand it, the combination foot=no + sidewalk=separate means walking is not allowed at all on this street and the sidewalk belonging to this street is mapped as a separate way. Since the sidewalk belongs to the street, f

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Start moving proposal announcements to the new forum

2022-11-23 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Nov 23, 2022 at 10:57 AM Matija Nalis < mnalis-openstreetmapl...@voyager.hr> wrote: > I find Discourse work well for short discussions (up to max. 10-15 > messages), but becomes totally unusable on > bigger threads esp. with subthreads (e.g. highway=scramble discussion with > 100+ messages

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

2022-10-06 Thread Zeke Farwell
The proposal currently states: > Meaning of the unisex =yes > is currently unclear: > >- gender neutral facility (as the "unisex" term in English); or >- facility that accessible for men and women, either segregated or not. > > I do not under

Re: [Tagging] football or soccer ?

2010-06-30 Thread Zeke Farwell
Wow…. after following the back and forth on this thread I'm really starting to understand the argument for numeric tagging schemes sport=305 (american football) sport=246 (association football, football, soccer, calcio, etc…) sport=220 (rugby) Is anyone going to get insulted that the tag for foo

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-20 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 6:28 AM, Lennard wrote: > On 20-6-2010 0:53, Val Kartchner wrote: > > > So, apparently we have to work it out ourselves before they'll even > > consider making the change. > > The problem is that once we add a tag to the stylesheet, and it starts > rendering, it is very ha

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-17 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Steve Bennett wrote: > Although there are other uses of map data, the > primary use is for renderers. We don't abuse our own tagging systems > to suit a specific version of a specific renderer, but we certainly > "tag for renderers"... Going out of our way to avo

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 12:21 AM, John Smith wrote: > Everything you talked about above is specifically about rendering, not > about mapping, in terms of mapping airports you really need to base > things on a 1:1 basis, rather than start thinking about pre-processing > before rendering, maybe it's

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:20 PM, John Smith wrote: > In terms of airports, you really can only compare them on a world wide > basis, it doesn't matter where a small airport is, it will never have > the same level of importance as a major international hub like LAX. I disagree a bit here. You c

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:18 PM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > > FYI, there is already a draft for this in the wiki: > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_Features/Importance Great! I like it. Zeke ___ Tagging mailin

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
Lots of good discussion here. We seem to be split into two camps: 1. Those who think an airport specific, verifiable, subset of of tags would be best 2. Those who think a general importance tag with numeric values would be best Both have benefits and drawbacks in my mind. Either way

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
Does anyone see a problem with simply using the same admin_level tag currently in use with boundary=administrative, in combination with aeroway=aerodrome? A new aerodrome_importance tag could be created, but admin_level is already in use so why not make it multi-purpose. All we'd have to do is co

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 10:48 PM, John Smith wrote: > Welcome to the wonderful world of cartography, it's as much of an art > as anything else… I quite agree. Creating a database that can be used to render a cartographically pleasing map of any area of the world is a tall order :-D ___

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
rt/aerodrome with 1 short > runway (1250m) with few small buildings in the hole country > > *From:* Zeke Farwell > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 15, 2010 4:33 AM > *To:* Tag discussion, strategy and related tools; > talk-us > *Subject:* Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
I also have not seen runways tagged as nodes, but I have seen many, many nodes tagged as aeroway=aerodrome. You're right, probably many of these could have their runways traced from aerial imagery, but I've also seen quite a few where I could not make out a runway. Now this is either because the

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
abase. Perhaps it's publicly available online, or it may vary by country. I think it probably makes most sense to have a solution that doesn't depend on data which may not be easily accessible. Zeke On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:30 PM, OJ W wrote: > On 6/15/10, Zeke Farwell wro

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-15 Thread Zeke Farwell
Classifying by runway length does make some sense to me, but I really have no idea how Mapnik or any other renderer works. Not sure if this would in fact be easy or not. It also means a renderer needs the runway tagged as a way or polygon in order to make a decision. What is a renderer to do wi

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
6:27 > To: Tag discussion, strategy and related tools > Subject: Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags? > > On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 6:47 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > You may or may not know that currently in OSM there is only one > [rendered] > >

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Steve, I like this as a possible solution as well. Perhaps the admin_level tag could be used? Same as for boundaries. The challenges in my eyes are not making the tagging scheme overly complicated, and making if verifiable based on physical characteristics. In my opinion OSM only needs three l

Re: [Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-14 Thread Zeke Farwell
Thanks for the link, Dave. I've though about similar classification schemes to what's listed there. Something like this in decreasing importance: aerodrome = international aerodrome = regional aerodrome = local The problem I see with this terminology is that it's more subjective, and it's harder

Re: [Tagging] [Talk-us] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-12 Thread Zeke Farwell
Would something like this work, Val? Personal Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=airstrip access=private RC Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=rc_airstrip Another possibility for RC Airstrip: aeroway=aerodrome aerodrome=airstrip aircraft_type=radio_controlled On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 5:00

[Tagging] Aeroway=Aerodrome Modifier Tags?

2010-06-12 Thread Zeke Farwell
Hi everyone, You may or may not know that currently in OSM there is only one [rendered] tag to describe the many different types of places where planes can take off and land (aeroway=aerodrome). I'm trying to figure out how we can tag tiny airstrips and gigantic international airports differently

Re: [Tagging] Landuse border alignment

2010-05-16 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 10:29 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer < dieterdre...@gmail.com> wrote: > IMHO yes, as natural is mainly about landcover (what you physically > encounter on the spot) while landuse is about usage. > If you want do some extremely detailed mapping you might make a lot of different no

Re: [Tagging] City Walls and multipolygons in Osmarender

2010-05-03 Thread Zeke Farwell
On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:08 AM, Seventy 7 wrote: > > I have also tried mapping the Museum Gardens using single ways and > multipolygons just to see how well this style of mapping actually works. So > where there is a fence or a wall I've used these as the boundaries and not > created a separate a

Re: [Tagging] How To Tag Coastlines That Are Also Cliffs?

2010-05-02 Thread Zeke Farwell
most sense to me. Of course it won't render for now. Hopefully one day this or a slightly different tagging scheme will be rendered. Zeke On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:16 AM, Chris Hill wrote: > Zeke Farwell wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'm newly subscribed to the tag

[Tagging] How To Tag Coastlines That Are Also Cliffs?

2010-04-30 Thread Zeke Farwell
s going to be rendered fully in Mapnik yet. That's fine. I just don't want to break the basic coastline rendering. I know it's touchy and can make the slippy map look like hell when it goes wrong. Zeke -- Zeke Farwell Vermont, USA