his is going to vary widely by service provider and weather conditions,
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one location is way too ephemeral to be a good candidate for
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The standard that I've seen is the semicolon. Not sure how well data
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Convenience stores may be inside a landuse area, but shouldn't be tagged
on the same way as a landuse area as I understand it.
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for that classification either; I am not familiar enough with the road
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> =drawing_school?) analogous to amenity=music_school. Any thoughts on that?
>
> Hauke
How about amenity=art_school, with another tag to indicate the specific
disciplines of art being taught?
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t least these reasons, if not others as well. In fact, looking at it
again, the more I think this is likely a frivolous or joke proposal, and
should not even go as far as a vote. Something tells me if this was a
tag like highway=* we were talking about, we wouldn't even
In addition to this, it increases revision and changeset counts needlessly.
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, because it involves a
lot of retagging work for zero actual benefit.
At least healthcare=*, and the temporary dual tagging required to
transition to it, made some sense. This, to me, makes zero sense and
smacks of change for the sake of change.
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this because it may compromise a
> home's security. What do you think?
I don't think this is something that should be mapped, if for no other
reason it's too likely to change quickly, and there's no guarantee a dog
will bark at everyone walking/driving by.
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refers to things like
infomercials or mail advertising campaigns. Such a shop would typically
not be mapped as such.
shop=direct_marketing places too much emphasis on the method of sale
versus what is sold (which is the usual purpose of a shop=* tag), and
also is misleading in this case
On 9/17/20 11:30, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
> On 17/09/2020 10.07, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>> On 9/17/20 08:15, Matthew Woehlke wrote:
>>> It's also atrocious because it can *only* be verified by survey.
>>> As much as we prefer surveys, the reality is that a lot o
ot signals are present.
I agree that the current presets available in JOSM are a bit of a botch,
particularly "uncontrolled" for crossings technically controlled by a
sign. "Marked" may be better but we still have the issue of changing a
lot of previously tagged crossings. I think &
ver them, that play
> classical music 24/7!
Our local Murphy USA c-store/fuel station was playing classical music
for a while, for a similar reason (to repel panhandlers/homeless).
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probably be reviewed, even if a review is not requested. I do this for
greater Houston, time permitting.
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> I can see how an area such as a parking, a churchyard or pedestrian area
> can be tree lined. A node feature, not so much.
For example, A parking area mapped as only a node for the center could
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w where to look (for the curious,
they are 4550 and 4606 among others). The most egregious examples come
where there's a complete lack of signage (county roads in Brazoria
County being the one that sticks out the most), but again, it's more of
there just not being an actual si
-To-Market
Roads.)
I'm on the side that name=* should match what's in addr:street=*, even
if there's some duplicity, but maybe there should be some other tag to
say perhaps the name shouldn't be rendered on (most) visual maps and/or
read out separately from the ref in
it that road segment. Turns out the original mapper was the
one to make the tagging mistake, not yours truly, but I only found this
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r for that matter, just browsing in Macy's).
At least in the US, even though malls are nominally public spaces they
are still private property and many of them around here (Houston area)
specifically state certain non-shopping activities that will get you
bounced from the property (usually
IRC it
> didn't distinguish always green *only* for certain directions, and
> anyway b) I can't find it again, even using the wiki search or Google.)
traffic_signals=continuous_green for the approach that has a continuous
green. The left turn traffic should have a standard traffic signal
hough I would expect
most to be at least nominally murals. Also, graffiti could either be a
style (particularly when lettering is involved) or a characteristic of
its original (lack of) authorization to be made where it was.
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> Starbucks in my experience has seating, I am unaware of any which are
> takeaway only.
There are a couple out here that have outdoor seating only. Even if it
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with tagging these the same way.
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a whole lot, especially if every
changeset is only one or two items. The number I would put more stock in
is the actual number of data items edited (which, in chachafish's case,
is over 7 million, dwarfing most of the other numbers I've seen).
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wiki/Key:oneway>=yes"
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:oneway%3Dyes>
>
> What is the agreed standard, if any?
It can't hurt to specify oneway=yes. I have noticed that the JOSM style
that shows lane counts and lane use will sometimes not show ways
properly if onew
thing to get "consumer" out of
the lexicon... it doesn't belong.
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its volunteers. A "mapper" (or "editor")
would be someone who creates and/or updates the data for the project.
One easily can be both at different times, in fact, I would hope most if
not all mappers "eat their own dog food" and use OSM data as much as
pos
Why should we split these out?
In fact, I'm not sure how useful it is for us to tag phone numbers on
phoneboxes at all. Does anyone actually use this data for something useful?
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> were not invented in the West?
Most ideas of this sort are implemented worldwide, just in different ways.
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ne who has
> experience in database and normalisation it hurts to see that
> mappers don't know how to take care of a database. It is time to take
> action and to clean up so OSM data gets more useful.
As an alternative, why not get rid of the contact:* versions since most
people are
ere is also leisure=recreation_ground
to consider.
Why exactly was leisure=common deprecated? I used it quite a bit on
OpenGeoFiction (which follows OSM's lead for the data model).
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e that generates routings (OsmAnd) doesn't
handle it gracefully and routes you to the wrong place.
Other than that, I generally agree with putting info on smaller
one-tenant building outlines versus adding a separate node.
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tags already used on OSM. It would be as if we tagged
one-way roads with motor_vehicle:backward=no, etc.
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arTrekMap. I'm not even sure
OpenGeoFiction (where I also have done some mapping, and where I
"practice" adding certain features before OSM) would accept Klingon
names, and that says a lot.
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s the companies whose commercial sites we depict. And
> would in any case be a ridiculous over-reaction, and damaging to our
> reputation.
I don't think anyone is suggesting to remove whole URLs or POIs; it's
all about removing the tracking rubbish and only the tracking rubbish.
I can see clearly what it is from
the satellite imagery (like surface=grass).
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the sticks back in the 1950s, where I-610 marked more or less the end of
the urbanized area, but had long since been annexed by the City of Houston).
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" +) "leisure=playground" are a tagging error, that should be
> two separate objects.
JOSM's validator will flag ways that share the same nodes as a warning,
or at least it used to. I think it's just more rubbish in the database
to have one way for the fence and another fo
#x27;addr:street' for the buildings near it, usually it
belongs in 'name'.
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ay (which, interestingly, doesn't become the Houston Freeway
as you get close to Katy). However, here, the names are consistent and
that name on the sign is usually how mail is addressed. I can only
imagine the chaos that ensues when there's no one legal name for the
road as
he
address or on the road itself. I've always thought name=* was to refer
to the name of the road as used in addresses, usually indicated on
street signs. Have I missed something?
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> Martin Koppenhoefer writes:
>
>> Mateusz, offlist deliberately.
>
> While we're at it, could the list admins fix the BROKEN REPLY-TO?
I have working "Reply" and "Reply List" features. I don
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eria (usually disambiguated by floor as
one is ground level by the elevators and financial tower, one is on the
second floor closer to the ice rink) which would at minimum have
different unit numbers.
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other three. I could have maybe split the building outline but decided
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multiple buildings had the same address (number and street) but
different ranges of suite/unit numbers.
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oncept and borrowing from the well known park and ride concept, you
named the tag park_drive which means literally a road in a park. I
also find this confusing.
I have also seen this referred to as "park and
pool" (short for "park and carpool"). Would this be too confusing of
gt; controlling major chemical accident hazards. Seveso III is implemented
> in national legislation and is enforced by national chemical safety
> authorities.”
>
> Are these chemical hazard sites? Inspection sites?
My first guess is it's at least roughly analogous to a Supe
agging - amenity=hospital
> should be on hospitals
> and nothing else.
+1
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> a kind of "transportation"?
It is, just as much as walking is a form of transportation on land.
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>Sorry, can't help with Pachinko, but just in regard to it all
>
>On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 at 15:04, John Willis via Tagging <
>tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Amenity=gambling wiki page says:
>>
>> > A place for gambling, not be
arly smaller towns and older parts of
larger cities, banks were built as separate buildings and many still are
(this local branch of my bank --
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/672138199 -- comes to mind, and it's
relatively new construction).
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>On 5/24/2019 4:28 PM, Jmapb wrote:
>>
>> On 5/24/2019 4:10 PM, Paul Allen wrote:
>>
>>> Have you ever seen a crossing with lights AND zebra stripes?
>>>
>>> This is a very popular situation in Poland.
>>>
>>>
>>> I knew there'd be at least
On 4/13/19 15:43, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> On 13. Apr 2019, at 19:58, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
>>
>> It makes no sense to have to add separate ways for barrier=fence and
>> leisure=park when the fence surrounds the entire park.
>
> you could make the park a multipol
validator will complain about overlapping ways if you have two ways with
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well over 20,000 or so, no telling how many more are out there.
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k "rental" is more accurate.
Some if not all RedBox machines do also sell used DVDs/games. Though
their primary function is rental, adding vending=* in addition wouldn't
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> from levels 2 to 10. I am also aware of dozens of buildings across
> Europe with "street level entrance" on multiple levels.
Deerbrook Mall in Humble, TX, is also like that, with an entrance on the
second floor. I'm sure there
ls but this appears to have been phased
out. Very early in the ATM era (late 1980s/early 1990s) at least one
bank had machines with $20, $10, and $5 bills, but I haven't seen this
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tend to think this is more for video game/pinball arcades.
Perhaps there should be some additional tags to indicate exactly what
kind of games are available?
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Street in Houston crossing Holcombe Boulevard also comes to mind as a
non-trunk with a grade-separated exit.
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er and possibly when it's expected to be
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d Prairie Avenue). There are only a
handful tagged as primary, one of which I upgraded myself even though it
lacks a state/US highway designation (which otherwise seems to be a
requirement by whoever tagged the others).
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flashing would make more sense. Then for strobes,
light:type=strobing, etc.
Also, light:color=blue (or whatever).
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ptions and names.
-1
Slogans change, and personally I would prefer less ad copy (ideally
zero) in the OSM database, not more.
This is probably on the Wikipedia page for most given brands and thus
the link to Wikipedia should suffice.
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rookie flacks/marketers cramming ad copy gibberish into description=*,
and I feel like Yelp/Foursquare/etc reviews are just more of the same.
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The only catch is that it has to be in meters, so you would tag
ele=3493.9 in your example.
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> Yes but what if instead of 附壁式 it is a local type for which no
> English translation exists?
We either come up with the best English translation we can, or use some
(transliterated, in this case) variant of the local word.
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> Which is correct?
>
>
>
>
E. None of the above
if Google Translate got the translation right ("wall type").
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of name. And it is often of historic interest, so
> worth recording it.
If I remember right, we have this field on highway=traffic_signals even
though only one country (Japan) uses it.
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d onto I-610 and I-10 but not signed. US 90 comes out as a signed
route near Katy (going west) and east of I-610 as a freeway (going
east). I-10 and I-610 are the signed routes, but US 90 is still there. I
don't see an easy way to tag the unsigned status of US 90 and AFAIK it
is jus
gt; I had mapped, later destroyed by mappers who had merged the ways with
> different maxspeeds back into one way,
This (losing information when combining ways) is a problem with iD and
possibly other editing software. JOSM will warn you that two ways have
differing maxspeeds when
e tag "Chipotle" not
"Chipotle Mexican Grill". Although, I've seen the latter tagged as
alt_name which I'm fine with in that case, but if Starbucks itself is
deemphasizing the "coffee" part (similar to Domino's and Apple) I'm
as of the version I have.
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or future development".
My suggestion including landuse=grass comes from JOSM presets. Should we
change these to natural=grass or similar? I agree that it doesn't belong
in landuse=* unless there's some subtlety about landuse=grass that I'm
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uel to get to the next fuel stop!
How can this be? At least here in the US, cars and motorcycles run on
the same stuff.
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> * locker
> * rice_polishing
* shredding
Yes, there exist self-service paper/media shredders. The ones I know of
were up in Washington state but they were looking to expand.
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ht move it without noting).
JOSM will highlight a tagged node it doesn't recognize as something else
in bright cyan. iD, as of what I remember from the last time I used it,
does not differentiate between an untagged node and a tagged node it
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good way to say that some streets are officially
> named, please?
For the streets named but not officially recognized, maybe something
like name=* + name:official=no perhaps? (where name:official defaults to
yes if not specified)
That's the onl
amenity=arts_centre and either:
arts_centre=ampitheatre or
arts_centre=outdoor
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like:
building=roof
roof=palapa
(the latter to distinguish it from the garden-variety gas station
canopy, which could be tagged with roof=canopy or similar)
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turf. It would be nice to say yes/no on a
> field that has "multi" that this doesn't include rugby. More granular
> tagging would be very helpful for that.
How about:
sport=multi
sport:rugby=no
sport:american_football=no
and maybe even
pit
or soccer when football season is over and
vice versa. Is sport=soccer;american_football an acceptable way to
combine the two, should the need arise?
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given that it was the example used to show a huge problem our community
didn't even know it had (and which, unfortunately, has been mostly
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I can agree with setting this proposal as abandoned. However, we do need
better tagging for childcare facilities and it is disappointing that the
talk Monica Stephens gave back in 2012 has apparently fallen on deaf
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the map.
This data absolutely, positively, does not belong in OpenStreetMap, as
there would be no end of ethical, moral, and possibly legal problems
from doing so. If you've added any of these already, I'd recommend
quickly reverting the changes.
On Sat, 2016-02-06 at 00:14 +0100, Jean-Marc Liotier wrote:
> For residential streets, we have a well-known and documented naming
> scheme as follows:
>
> - name=* bears the official name
> - loc_name=* bears a local name, which is often an old name but what
> matters is that it is a locally wel
On Sat, 2015-12-26 at 17:45 +0900, John Willis wrote:
>
> > On Dec 26, 2015, at 5:10 PM, Shawn K. Quinn wrote:
> >
> > basically just someone's driveway
>
> It may not be an official name, as in an official city public road.
>
> But it is a named road.
e
convinced to change that. Maybe tag the sign location itself as a point
of interest?
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Shawn K. Quinn
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