Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 19:59, Phake Nick wrote: > > > 在 2020年7月31日週五 00:24，Alan Mackie 寫道： > >> >> >> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer >> wrote: >> >>> Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie < >>> aamac...@gmail.com>: >>> This is why I suggested that the mo

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

在 2020年7月31日週五 00:24，Alan Mackie 寫道： > > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > >> Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie < >> aamac...@gmail.com>: >> >>> This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably >>> be to re-tag all existing

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Martin Koppenhoefer: > > > sent from a phone > >> On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: >> >> To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a >> higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have >> decided to contractually transfer some rights

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 16:38, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie >: > >> This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably >> be to re-tag all existing admin_level=2 with admin_level=1 except for the >> EU ones as there are f

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

The problem with tagging it as an orchard isn't that it doesn't look like an orchard in the British sense, it's that it intentionally does not look like cultivated land at all. Banana and date plantations still look very artificial, with very little ground cover or biodiversity, while a typical for

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

30 Jul 2020, 14:33 by colin.sm...@xs4all.nl: > > On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > >> Hi, >> >> On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: >> >>> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes >>> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parl

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 17:13 Uhr schrieb Alan Mackie : > This is why I suggested that the more practical solution would probably be > to re-tag all existing admin_level=2 with admin_level=1 except for the EU > ones as there are far fewer elements to be updated. Arbitrarily deciding > that the EU

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 15:02, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-07-30 15:05, Alan Mackie wrote: > > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote: > >> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:You might not like it, but the >> EU is already a super-state that acts as one, with a federation of state

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

In Indonesia, Costa Rica, Peru and Mexico, it is common to find 30cm kerbs in older neighborhoods. In Nicaragua there were some that were at least 45 cm high, in Leon or Granada. Tropical countries with heavy rainfall often do this to avoid flooding. - Joseph Eisenberg On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 7:

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

A landuse=orchard is any area of perennial shrubs and trees which is used to produce food. In the tropics this tag is used for bananas tea and coffee, and oil date palms, all of which are not exactly “orchards” in the British sense. This was proposed in the original vote. So if Wikipedia is correc

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

On 2020-07-30 7:40 a.m., Paul Allen wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:34, joost schouppe > wrote: > > > Someone tried to map a "food forest" near me. > > > The best I could come up with, given that it described itself as part > orchard, > was landuse=orchard. 

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 13:16 Uhr schrieb ael : > Only because, as you say, the source tag is misused. I admit that > extending tags is not very widely done, like it or not, this is what makes the whole concept dysfunctional in practise. Maybe it's time to change habits ;-) > and some peopl

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

Am Do., 30. Juli 2020 um 10:13 Uhr schrieb Philip Barnes < p...@trigpoint.me.uk>: > when reading the term raised kerb I’d rather think about something like > 25-40cm, while 4 cm surely wouldn’t be considered “raised” > > At that height even a fit able bodied person would need to think about > cros

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On 2020-07-30 15:05, Alan Mackie wrote: > On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote: > >> On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote:You might not like it, but the EU >> is already a super-state that acts as one, with a federation of states >> below. I know the whole idea of a "United Sta

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 14:33, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:41, Alan Mackie wrote: > > > > To me pooling resources does not generate a higher level entity, it > rearranges existing ones. If the EU does become the "final decider" across > all bran

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

sent from a phone > On 30. Jul 2020, at 13:42, Paul Allen wrote: > > The best I could come up with, given that it described itself as part orchard, > was landuse=orchard. If we ever come up with a more appropriate tag I'll > change it there’s no principal problem with using undocumented tag

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

sent from a phone > On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:41, Alan Mackie wrote: > > To me pooling resources does not generate a higher level entity, it > rearranges existing ones. If the EU does become the "final decider" across > all branches of government, then to me it becomes the admin_level=2 entity

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

sent from a phone > On 30. Jul 2020, at 14:04, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a > higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have > decided to contractually transfer some rights and responsibilities to > the EU

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:35, Colin Smale wrote: > On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: > > Hi, > > On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: > > The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes > of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament > and

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:05, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: > > The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes > > of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament > > and justicial branches impacting citizens di

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On 2020-07-30 14:02, Frederik Ramm wrote: > Hi, > > On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: > >> The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes >> of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament >> and justicial branches impacting citizens directly.

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

> Quitting the EU if you don't like it is much easier thanseceding from a country.I don't follow this reasoning since some people will always leave their country behind and begin a new life somewhere else. That was just how the US was founded, founded by ones from Europe mostly who broke up with th

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Hi, On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: > The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes > of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament > and justicial branches impacting citizens directly. To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel lik

Re: [Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 12:34, joost schouppe wrote: > > Someone tried to map a "food forest" near me. > The best I could come up with, given that it described itself as part orchard, was landuse=orchard. If we ever come up with a more appropriate tag I'll change it. -- Paul __

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On 2020-07-30 12:26, Alan Mackie wrote: > IMO the logic behind putting the EU as admin_level=1 would have meant that > the United States of America, the USSR and Australia would have been made > admin_level=1 when they were formed from their preceding entities (if OSM had > existed at those tim

[Tagging] food forests / forest gardening

Hi, Someone tried to map a "food forest" near me. I've looked into both the wiki and the tagging archives, but it all turned up dry. Anyone aware of previous discussions or relevant documentation? For context, I found this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forest_gardening https://communityfoodfores

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 12:40:58PM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 10:39, ael wrote: > > > > often without survey, and then do not update the source, so > > that tag becomes completely misleading. > > that’s what happens all the time. When I edit things that already

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

sent from a phone > On 30. Jul 2020, at 10:39, ael wrote: > > often without survey, and then do not update the source, so > that tag becomes completely misleading. that’s what happens all the time. When I edit things that already have a source tag (generally source=Bing) I am removing it,

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

IMO the logic behind putting the EU as admin_level=1 would have meant that the United States of America, the USSR and Australia would have been made admin_level=1 when they were formed from their preceding entities (if OSM had existed at those times). I would suggest that contrary to the preceding

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Hi, On 30.07.20 11:19, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote: > Unlike such objects EU has (AFAIK) well defined border, matching > existing administrative boundaries, so problems inherent in > mapping fuzzy objects are not present. I'm not an expert on international treaties but I believe that if F

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Jul 30, 2020, 09:44 by frede...@remote.org: > in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many > parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to > form the EU. > EU is in a weird state where it is sort of organization of countries sort of administrati

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

On 30/07/2020 09:44, Frederik Ramm wrote: in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to form the EU. The Treaty of Lisbon gave the EU it's own “legal personality”, so the EU, as a body itself is now

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 01:55:45AM +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > > > On 26. Jul 2020, at 23:58, ael wrote: > > > > Adding such source tags to a changeset seldom makes sense. > > Most of my changesets are a mixture of local knowledge, surveys, gps, > > photographic and video. I even occasio

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

On Wed, 2020-07-29 at 20:15 -0400, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 19:46, Martin Koppenhoefer > wrote: > > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow > > > wrote: > > > The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in > > > height. Your definition of a regular kerb is o

Re: [Tagging] kerb=regular vs. raised

On Thu, 2020-07-30 at 01:45 +0200, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: > sent from a phone > > > On 30. Jul 2020, at 00:03, Clifford Snow > > wrote: > > > > The wiki has a raised kerb as any kerb greater than 3cm in height. > > Your definition of a regular kerb is one greater than or equal to > > 10cm >

Re: [Tagging] Should admin_level=1 tag be applied to EU?

Hi, in my view, the EU is not an administrative body with a border and many parts (countries), but instead the countries have made a contract to form the EU. I would therefore object to mapping the EU as an entity with a boundary; instead, if it were mapped, I would expect it to be a relation of