On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 13:05, Frederik Ramm <frede...@remote.org> wrote:
> Hi, > > On 30.07.20 13:32, Colin Smale wrote: > > The EU is «composed-of» whole member states. It has all the attributes > > of a governmental administrative body - with the executive, parliament > > and justicial branches impacting citizens directly. > > To me as a citizen of a EU country it does not feel like the EU is a > higher-level administrative body than the country. Yes, countries have > decided to contractually transfer some rights and responsibilities to > the EU but that doesn't (in my mind) mean the EU is some form of > super-state. Quitting the EU if you don't like it is much easier than > seceding from a country. > To me pooling resources does not generate a higher level entity, it rearranges existing ones. If the EU does become the "final decider" across all branches of government, then to me it becomes the admin_level=2 entity and the states that form it become "lower level" entities. In practical terms it would probably be easier at that point to give them admin_level=1 and automatically retag all non-EU admin_level=2 entities as admin_level=1 (~250?) rather than running through every admin boundary within the EU and adding 1 to it (thousands?). After all, in many countries, the admin_levels are already rather sparse so having a gap between 1 and 3 shouldn't be too much of an issue. This doesn't seem like a thing that will need to happen for another couple of decades if it happens at all. > I would prefer to map the EU as a contract than as an administrative > boundary. There are many such contracts around the world, where smaller > countries pool their defense or other typically national capabilities, > and I would not be surprised if there were situations where countries > pool their defense with one group, and their currency with another. > Mapping these things as "areas on the map" is old-style cartographic > thinking. We can do better than that. > > Even *if* a boundary was mapped, it would probably more pragmatic to map > the outer boundary of the Schengen region than the outer boundary of the > EU states. > I think it would be useful to have distinct tagging for these types of agreements, I know of at least one other currency union, and I can imagine a map of what you need in your wallet might come in handy for travellers.
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