Re: [Tagging] wiki building=hangar

2013-01-25 Thread Stephen Hope
I've seen hangar used for a building that stores lots of boats, usually on racks of some sort. Though usually as "boat hangar", not just hangar. It's not a common term, though. Stephen On 24 January 2013 07:42, John F. Eldredge wrote: > Pieren wrote: > > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Ma

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread François Lacombe
2013/1/25 Martin Vonwald (imagic) > Am 25.01.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Ole Nielsen : > > > It is a little bit sad that the proposal > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_generation_refinementdied > due to lack of votes. It would have resolved these problems. Maybe > somebody c

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Martin Vonwald (imagic)
Am 25.01.2013 um 20:23 schrieb Ole Nielsen : > It is a little bit sad that the proposal > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Power_generation_refinement > died due to lack of votes. It would have resolved these problems. Maybe > somebody could review and eventually improve it

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Ole Nielsen
On 25/01/2013 19:23, Janko Mihelić wrote: 2013/1/25 fly mailto:lowfligh...@googlemail.com>> but I also see a problem with using power=sub_station for all now. I think there is a difference between big substations and the real small ones (tagged with as substations right now).

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/25 fly > but I also see a problem with using power=sub_station for all now. I think > there > is a difference between big substations and the real small ones (tagged > with as > substations right now). Even if it is only a difference in voltage, we will > loose this information. Also I wou

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread fly
On 25/01/13 11:57, Martin Vonwald wrote: > 2013/1/25 Janko Mihelić : >> How did you come to the conclusion that power=station is Umspannwerk, and >> power=sub_station is Transformatorenstation? There is no logical reason, >> because power station is a power plant in English. > > I'm a german nativ

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Pieren
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > It's not as tricky as it sounds. For an airport, I'd tag the perimeter as > whatever the imported node was originally, make that the perimeter member of > a site relation. Definition of relation 'site' on the wiki: >> A way to group elements

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Tobias Johansson
I just read the site relation page http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relations/Proposed/Site . And as I see it it states clearly "However, this relation is not to be used in simple cases. If all the elements contained within an area (the perimeter) belong to the site, and no elements of the site e

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
It's not as tricky as it sounds. For an airport, I'd tag the perimeter as whatever the imported node was originally, make that the perimeter member of a site relation. Everything mapped within the airport would have their appropriate names (if they have a name that differs from the airport) and a

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread AJ Ashton
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Tobias Johansson wrote: > I find this practice wrong because it's unneccesary duplication of > data. If you want to render a map with labels that way why not render > the name from the aeroway=aerodrome where the one of the > aeroway=terminal is? > Agreed. Anoth

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Tobias Johansson
Yes maybee, but I dont really see any need for a relation (but I don't oposse it). 2013/1/25 Paul Johnson : > This sounds like a job for a relation type=site > > > On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Tobias Johansson wrote: >> >> Hello >> >> I have an issue that may already have been discussed but

Re: [Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Paul Johnson
This sounds like a job for a relation type=site On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Tobias Johansson wrote: > Hello > > I have an issue that may already have been discussed but I can't > remember that I have ever seen it. That is the duplication of poi-data > for certain features. There are two f

[Tagging] Duplication of POI-data

2013-01-25 Thread Tobias Johansson
Hello I have an issue that may already have been discussed but I can't remember that I have ever seen it. That is the duplication of poi-data for certain features. There are two features I'm aware of that often are duplicated. One is the aeroway=aerodrome and the other is leisure=golf_course . In

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread François Lacombe
The main problem is precisely the vocabulary used. OSM tagging should respect current language, especillay when OSM terms refers to totally different real life elements (plant taken for substation) There's no distinguishing to make between big and small power substations since they have the same f

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/1/25 François Lacombe : > 2013/1/25 Andreas Labres >> >> Transformatorstationen (aka substation) look like this: >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformatorenstation >> >> Umspannwerke (aka power station) look like this: >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Umspannwerk_01_KMJ.jpg >> >> It'

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Martin Vonwald
2013/1/25 Janko Mihelić : > How did you come to the conclusion that power=station is Umspannwerk, and > power=sub_station is Transformatorenstation? There is no logical reason, > because power station is a power plant in English. I'm a german native speaker, but nonetheless +1 . As was already men

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/25 Andreas Labres > > There is a clear distinction between Hochspannung and Mittelspannung: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hochspannung > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mittelspannungsnetz > > That's german political clasification. Some germans sat down and decided that in Germany, Mittelspa

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread François Lacombe
Hi Andreas, 2013/1/25 Andreas Labres > Transformatorstationen (aka substation) look like this: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transformatorenstation > > Umspannwerke (aka power station) look like this: > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Umspannwerk_01_KMJ.jpg > > It's not that big a problem to

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Andreas Labres
On 25.01.13 10:29, Janko Mihelić wrote: > Problem with this is that you have to define the exact area that delimits a > big from a small substation, and the exact voltage. What about stations that > are big in area, but low in voltage? And vice-versa? There is a clear distinction between Hochspann

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Janko Mihelić
2013/1/25 Friedrich Volkmann > > power=station is used for large, fenced areas where high voltage is > transformed to medium voltage. In German: Umspannwerk > > power=sub_station is used for smaller objects, like buildings with 2m each > side and a height of a few m, where medium voltage is trans

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread François Lacombe
Gentlemen, The power=station's case seems to have been already treated in 2010. http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2010-January/001146.html Moreover, a serious definition about station vs substation is available as a reply of the wiki modification announce. http://lists.openstreetma

Re: [Tagging] Is the difference between power station and sub station clear?

2013-01-25 Thread Ole Nielsen / osm
> On 21.01.2013 01:54, François Lacombe wrote: >> May someone answers that question > > power=station is used for large, fenced areas where high voltage is > transformed to medium voltage. In German: Umspannwerk > > power=sub_station is used for smaller objects, like buildings with 2m each > side