Re: [sword-devel] Malayalam module

2014-02-26 Thread Mike Hart
That page is in Malayalam, but appears to claim the bible being presented at that wikisource page is an 1870 British and Foreign Bible Society work (possibly updated in 1910).  However, my ability to read Malayalam is somewhat nonexistent.  One of the links close to the Bottom takes you to indiv

Re: [sword-devel] KJV 1611

2013-12-15 Thread Mike Hart
https://archive.org/stream/holybiblefacsimi00polluoft#page/144/mode/2up The original 1611 printing of the original English Authorized Version also included (in addition to the much discussed and documented pilcrows) footnotes, cross references, and sections.. although the sections were listed t

Re: [sword-devel] USFM2OSIS

2013-12-13 Thread Mike Hart
bug and is generating markup in violation of the > USFM spec. If UBS wants to declare that the markup being generated from > Paratext is correct, then the USFM Reference needs to be corrected. That is all to say that I will not modify usfm2osis.py to work around Paratext bugs that generat

[sword-devel] USFM2OSIS

2013-12-10 Thread Mike Hart
FYI -- item came up on another mailing list.  It appears that recently USFM tagging completely ignores the return character in many places, and validates only on the start of another tag.  That is, USFM2OSIS apparently considers something like (regex) \\id (...)(.+$)  to be the ID field; while

Re: [sword-devel] Displaying Khmer script in Macs?

2013-04-20 Thread Mike Hart
David,  The issue is more likely a font issue and not a program issue.  Khmer is supported by UTF 8, but is not normally included in mac system fonts. The fault will be with Apple and not Eoquent. Scriptsource : http://scriptsource.org/cms/scripts/page.php?item_id=script_detail&uid=ccd655bf5c

Re: [sword-devel] KJV 1611

2013-04-12 Thread Mike Hart
The KJV1611 needs to be experienced as it was originally laid out to be fully understood how different it is from the "King George" version of the "King James Bible" It included Paragraphs ( marked with capitulums ¢), Sections (listed at the start of each Chapter), and Topical page headers, as w

Re: [sword-devel] [osis-users] Some more footnote questions

2013-02-22 Thread Mike Hart
mostly work with USFM and not with OSIS, which has a way to mark footnote markers independently of footnote texts. I don't think this works in OSIS.  Mike Hart (just Mike) From: Markku Pihlaja To: osis-us...@crosswire.org Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2

Re: [sword-devel] Generated footnote markers in non-Roman modules

2013-02-20 Thread Mike Hart
The safer method for Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai, Burmese, and some lesser punctuated languages like Haitian Creole is to use a number with a circle around it. This is found as a standard in Japanese typesetting and generally accepted in field testing. We've even considered using this for Cy

[sword-devel] Summer of Code apps due next month

2013-02-14 Thread Mike Hart
Re: Google Summer of Code http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page I strongly suspect Google would sponsor activity related to recent 'cloud based notes with personal cloud option' technology recently discussed.  I would also love to see a proje

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire mirroring

2013-01-12 Thread Mike Hart
Andrew,  The vocabulary is the issue here: There are module repositories already in existence which contain data that is completely compatible with at least some Sword Project programs, but are not mirrors or even part of the the Sword Project.  I know of at least a little overlap between mod

Re: [sword-devel] sword -> epub ?

2012-12-08 Thread Mike Hart
Also, epub without DRM uses pretty generic compressions tools.  That is, if you rename an .epub to .zip, you can uncompress it and use your favorite massedit tools on it.   http://idpf.org/epub/201___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.o

Re: [sword-devel] sword -> epub ?

2012-12-04 Thread Mike Hart
I've been looking for a good solution and here's the best things I've found that don't require any paid licenses. Basically there are 3 options and they all have holes or a steep learning curve: 1. OSIS>USFM>SIL Fieldworks/Pathways, 2. Multiple Open Office plugins, 3. OSIS>xxx?>KindleGen>Calibre

Re: [sword-devel] The English Psalter from the BCP

2012-10-04 Thread Mike Hart
Are you coding this as a devotional, as a Psalms only scripture module, as a commentary, as a genbook, or combination? From: David Haslam To: sword-devel@crosswire.org Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 6:44 AM Subject: Re: [sword-devel] The English Psalter from

Re: [sword-devel] The poor man's interlinear

2012-09-08 Thread Mike Hart
David, To understand your input request, someone wanted A.  to display each row of text from 2 separate files, alternating. Or B. To display an actual interlinear, matching 'related words' For A, I would have: 1. loaded each file into excel, created a new Collumn 1 (named order) and auton

Re: [sword-devel] Any modern web ui available?

2012-08-14 Thread Mike Hart
It's a native mac client, not a web GUI, so probably slightly off-topic,  but Don't forget the *beta* version of Bibletime-Mac that has performed flawlessly(*) for me for the last 8 months. http://sourceforge.net/projects/bibletime/files/BibleTime%202/ F

Re: [sword-devel] Some questions about the WEB module

2012-04-14 Thread Mike Hart
For what it's worth: I've lately seen in some online help menus and peripheral documentation that Paratext 7.3 will support a newer version of USFM. The latest is 2.35 but it's changed multiple times in the last couple months, and as far as I know 7.3 isn't out yet.  2.35 appears to be a full

Re: [sword-devel] Kindle/Nook Format

2012-04-13 Thread Mike Hart
I also apologize to PVK if somehow my request has turned into an impersonation of Peter. I'll respond to Andrew offlist about epub/mobi formats, but someone with specifics on licenses should inform him about redistributing some of the copyrighted texts that his posting implies.  In short, And

[sword-devel] Kindle/Nook Format

2012-04-12 Thread Mike Hart
Re: palmbible+  and kindle/nook e-ink format Crosswire in 2004 listed palmbible+ as a crosswire program (today the site claims that crosswire has no palm platform program.) I'm not claiming any particular person, and especially not Chris Little, is seeking to change history, and I apologize tha

Re: [sword-devel] Websites

2012-04-10 Thread Mike Hart
> CrossWire has never been involved in any palm apps. http://web.archive.org/web/20040202044710/http://www.crosswire.org/crosswire/index.jsp I used a handspring visor. I've seen related posts about this, and I'm always a little confused why people would seek to change history.  Did you mean Pa

[sword-devel] Social Media and Crosswire

2012-04-09 Thread Mike Hart
Last year there was some discussion about Crosswire and Sword opportunities in social media. That discussion has produced some alpha tests of new applications, and I look forward to more. In the last week or so I had a basic epiphany about social media that is really below much discussion, ex

Re: [sword-devel] Websites

2012-04-09 Thread Mike Hart
The Crosswire Bible Society is about getting e-bible´s to the ends of the earth at zero cost. While the sword project is one of the legs of Crosswire, it is not the only one.  Go-Bible (and formerly some palm apps) do fall into the umbrella of crosswire but not under sword.  Crosswire has an opp

Re: [sword-devel] HTML5 front-end

2012-03-28 Thread Mike Hart
An HTML5 (or similar) reader (app free) with persistent retention of texts (offline, at least once the text is obtained the first time) would be a very very valuable item to have in the CrossWire.org stable. Sort of an evolved Go-Bible. :-)___ sword-

[sword-devel] OT : Patheos | Mobile Faith

2012-03-01 Thread Mike Hart
FYI: SXSW Pre-event This came across my desk and I thought it may be of value to some on the list. If you are going to be there, let me know. I am planning to go. http://www.patheos.com/Events/mobilefaith-SXSW.html Join us for mobile.faith @ SXSW Interactive Patheos and Cadabra Media presen

Re: [sword-devel] FontURL as a suggested .conf property

2012-02-21 Thread Mike Hart
Almost 100% of fonts come wrapped in some way (binary zip, gzip, archive, executable, behind ten acknowledgement and/or pay clicks, etc. )  and have several types OTF, TTF, etc. All permutations of possibilities would be impossible to code. Most OS's deal with the screen themselves, so unless a

[sword-devel] Bibletime Mac OSX

2011-12-08 Thread Mike Hart
Although there's been no announcement, BibleTime download directory now shows an OSX folder with a 2.90 version in it.  (as of today If I'm reading the directory info right). http://sourceforge.net/projects/bibletime/files/BibleTime%202/ It seems to run faster than BT windows (but then my ma

Re: [sword-devel] URL's in Commentary

2011-10-14 Thread Mike Hart
I've placed something close to the module I wanted to build on the Internet Archive @ http://www.archive.org/details/BibleGatewaySwordModule The config file and directory structure are as I originally tested (IMP -> Text @ rawtext in Plaintext) which produced the links when viewed as a text (m

[sword-devel] URL's in Commentary

2011-10-13 Thread Mike Hart
The other day I had an idea to provide a "Bible Gateway" module which contains URL links to the current verse for each copyrighted version available on Bible Gateway.  While this doesn't exactly solve copyrighted texts displaying within the sword platform, it reduces the time required to do comp

[sword-devel] Virus in Luther's Works?

2011-09-26 Thread Mike Hart
AVG today found " luhe.HTML.pictscript.a  " in ...\sword\modules\genbook\luthersworks\images\PhilippMelantchthon.jpg?  It reported this during the scan but the end of scan results said clean.  I had to go to the virus vault to see it, where it again says it first discovered it today (first sc

Re: [sword-devel] Social networks and front-end apps?

2011-08-14 Thread Mike Hart
As already demonstrated, the Crosswire Swordweb implementation is usable with most social sharing sites that accept http links. Other than that, a cron system that pushed daily readings might be nice... but I don't see how you'd apply bible reader apps to social websites besides those paramete

Re: [sword-devel] Catholic Versification - Prologue of Sirach, Lamentations

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Hart
It's a learning process, but I try to learn on unpicked fruit. :-) I'm far enough along, I want to see this one through, but I thought I had been productively learning. ... wanders off to port 1024 to see what else came in with the tide ... ___ s

[sword-devel] Catholic Versification - Prologue of Sirach, Lamentations

2011-06-17 Thread Mike Hart
Re: http://www.sacredbible.org/catholic/index.htm I'm working on importing the Catholic Public Domain Bible. This version includes 9 verses at the beginning of Sirach marked verses P:1 - P:9. There are also 3 prologue verses at the beginning of Lamentations. To properly set this up for Cathol

Re: [sword-devel] Perseus

2011-06-16 Thread Mike Hart
The next Google link is far more accurate: http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/search?redirect=true ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your se

Re: [sword-devel] Perseus

2011-06-16 Thread Mike Hart
Greg, Can you provide a link? I'm looking at something google says is perseus, but I'm not seeing any code access on the frontside. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instru

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Mike Hart
Angel are we stil talking about the RVR2011? The RVR (parent document), as well as the file sent to me, has 'scripture' in about 60 of the psalm titles that would be missing in the file you are describing. I spent some time redesigning the excel file logic to count the chapters instead of ext

Re: [sword-devel] bash vs python

2011-06-15 Thread Mike Hart
Whereas I prefer spreadsheets so I can SEE my before and after texts next to each other, and I don't generate so many text files that must be maintained. 'Track changes' works so much nicer than trying to keep up with filenames or revisions on the commandline. And (for me) verifying one line loo

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Mike Hart
The spreadsheet I just explained can be modified to COUNT the verse numbers instead of reading them by inserting another collumn like E and F. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-dev

Re: [sword-devel] Help converting text to imp

2011-06-15 Thread Mike Hart
If you look at the The excel file I sent you on Friday(?) (RVR2011-VPL-heading.xlsx) ... A shortened example for another Bible version, converted into open office calc format is viewable at http://www.archive.org/details/ImportFilterWorksheetsForSwordExamples Open office is MUCH less efficie

Re: [sword-devel] BREW Development?

2011-06-14 Thread Mike Hart
Just to follow up on BREW. Unlike J2ME apps, Each Application published via = BREW is for a single model of phone on a single wireless carrier only. To publish a Bible app on a single model phone on all phone carriers in the US, That would be about 20 publications. Each publication has a certif

Re: [sword-devel] mod2zmod usage

2011-06-12 Thread Mike Hart
Hi Angel, I just wanted to say my offer to help you with any technical issue still stands. I can't in good conscious be part of any activity that will compromise my beliefs, but I respect others beliefs and while I point out differences and even have opinions, I try my best not to be judgment

Re: [sword-devel] Permissions for the New American Bible

2011-06-11 Thread Mike Hart
If my memory serves me correctly, The NRSV was formerly available from the University of Michigan in a single downloadable package (circa 1997ish). It was removed on request, I believe due to abuse (someone tried to add value (comments or section headings?) and offer the derivative work for sal

Re: [sword-devel] RVR2011

2011-06-11 Thread Mike Hart
The title word "Cult" on that section seems to prevent any living translator or group from voluntarily placing their version in that list. Perhaps if the section were renamed something less offensive it might contain more works. Sectarian? or Unorthodox? Nobody wants to consider their own g

Re: [sword-devel] RVR2011

2011-06-11 Thread Mike Hart
I think it important to state here that this is not just about a statement of faith on the website. The problem is that the RVR2011 appears to be intentionally mistranslated to support the theology described there. More specifically, John 1:1 reads "EN el principio era el Verbo, y el Verbo era

[sword-devel] source texts. Was Re: Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-11 Thread Mike Hart
The files currently being discussed can be retrieved from http://ia600607.us.archive.org/2/items/RVR2011/    or http://www.archive.org/details/RVR2011&reCache=1   -> click the 'all files HTTP' link. Files list- RVR2011.vpl - The file I received from Angel rvr2011-vpl-ready.txt - The ve

Re: [sword-devel] Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-10 Thread Mike Hart
FYI: I created the RVR2011 module via windows from Angel's file, in the way I do it (prepend the verse reference to each line.)  I see no missing space characters in BibleTime with the completed module.  It looks complete with the spaces.  I don't read Spanish, but I believe the encoding is the

Re: [sword-devel] Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-10 Thread Mike Hart
011 at 9:33 AM, Angel Candelaria wrote: I tried to download the vpl2mod.exe (for Windows) but seems that the link is broken.  Is there any other link available? Or maybe someone can provide a copy. Thanks. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mike Hart wrote: I had that problem (terminating characters

Re: [sword-devel] Looking for vpl reference

2011-06-10 Thread Mike Hart
I had that problem (terminating characters) on linux, but not on windows.  When I didn't have a windows box, I found that the vpl2mod.exe command under wine worked better than the vpl2mod script.  In my case the incoming trouble had to do with the file I was working on being saved by open office

[sword-devel] EMTV + AB = LOGOS

2011-05-30 Thread Mike Hart
I've combined AB + EMTV modules on my own several times, but neglect to keep it up after an upgrade until it annoys me so see an empty collumn after a testament change.  Each time I do OT+NT combination, I think about suggesting it, but this time the annoy factor was high enough (had to change u

Re: [sword-devel] Display versification name in the module managers?

2011-05-17 Thread Mike Hart
I'm not trying to assign someone a whole new project, but selectable category filters in a sidebar seem more useful than a display collumn for versification.  It would also help to make the site much more 'polished'.  Look at the left sidebar at Christianbooks.com Bible listings. The category

Re: [sword-devel] Pilcrows in the KJV Apocrypha?

2011-04-25 Thread Mike Hart
A facsimile of the 1611 KJV printing can be viewed at http://www.archive.org/stream/holybiblefacsimi00polluoft#page/n1152/mode/1up (Opens at the beginning of the apocrypha). I see pilcrows at the title of each book and one appearing at I Esdras 2:8, I Esdras 3:13, I Esdras 4:13, ...  I'm not

[sword-devel] BREW Development?

2011-04-18 Thread Mike Hart
I've recently switched cellphone carriers, and as a result of various factors, I'm now using a dumb phone that does not support Java apps, but only BREW.  (Metro is giving away a dumb phone when you buy any phone, and my wife got the nice one.) While investigating what BREW means, I run into wh

[sword-devel] "portable" front end for windows

2011-03-18 Thread Mike Hart
I'm trying to install a Crosswire front end to a Cebuano bible on a circa 2000 laptop with 'deep freeze'  installed and locked up tight (apparently setup for remote management only.) Deep freeze resets the entire c:\ drive tree to its memorized state every boot, removing any newly installed prog

Re: [sword-devel] YouVersion application for facebook

2010-11-13 Thread Mike Hart
I tried YouVersion on my work provided blackberry. The number one learning I had from it was: Here in America, on Sunday at 11am, no 'net' bible is going to work due to a predictable traffic spike overloading servers. Unfortunately, that is the only time 95% of users want it to work.  So, even

Re: [sword-devel] Audio text linkage

2010-08-19 Thread Mike Hart
Audio bibles are generally <1Gb, which may prevent collecting all known versions into a portable media device, but the size does not prevent keeping a Bible in an Iphone or pretty much any player you pay more than 10 bucks for.  I've been loading whole audio bibles into my phones for about 3-4 y

Re: [sword-devel] Crossreferences

2010-08-17 Thread Mike Hart
I'd really like this list of references as a commentary that can be watched next to the text, However, adding material into texts that are not present in the dead tree version is scary and deceptive to me.  It will reduce the value of the texts maintained on Crosswire. If I'm following cross ref

[sword-devel] Maybe Off Topic: OSIS site is down?

2010-07-30 Thread Mike Hart
I can't seem to login to the OSIS support website at http://www.bibletechnologies.org, Although I think I was able to create an account just now. Emails to osis-u...@whi.wts.edu are bouncing. Is there another home for OSIS now? ___ sword

Re: [sword-devel] The Scriptures translation from the Institute of Scripture Research

2010-03-07 Thread Mike Hart
I've had the ISR module installed on linux, and it works... sort of. (I went looking just now and it's not in any of my current readers.) Within linux (up to PCLinux 2007, with bibletime), at least some of the text has RTF-type encoding that shows up in the body of the scripture as extraneous a

Re: [sword-devel] RSV/NRSV: Nope.

2009-08-23 Thread Mike Hart
There is a copy of the RSV new testament available on the Internet Archive @ ( http://www.archive.org/stream/newcovenantcommo009161mbp#page/n5/mode/1up ) In this work published in the United States, the copyright statement declares "copyright 1946/ International Council of Religious Education/to

Re: [sword-devel] Bisaya-Inunhan New Testament (Philippines)

2009-07-26 Thread Mike Hart
I'll try to get it from msword to VPL. If you are concerned about paragraph formatting, WOC, etc. and someone with more experience volunteers, go with them. I would be stripping everything but scripture, chapter headings, and verse numbers. (i.e. no footnotes, etc.) My wife and her sister are

Re: [sword-devel] Problems with LXXM module in CrossWire beta

2009-05-25 Thread Mike Hart
ANY module in the production repository should work. The beta repository should be for things that are supposed to work. Issues found with modules on the beta repository are supposed to be reported. If we're posting modules that are truly experimental and not content verification, shouldn't t

Re: [sword-devel] File Compression (Was: Making Import Easier)

2009-04-07 Thread Mike Hart
My original point was (supposed to be): Beta modules are easier to troubleshoot if they are not compressed. Therefore: If you (someone, anyone, all of us together) make a menu option in a GUI to automagically create a module, it would be NICE to make it a 2 step process so the module can be

Re: [sword-devel] Making Import Easier

2009-04-06 Thread Mike Hart
On this subject, why are ALL modules (especially beta mods) compressed? Once upon a time, compression made the world of POTS (telephone) based file transfer possible.. turning a 2 hour 5 meg download into a 20 minute download made sense. Today with the exception of very low end mobile devices,

Re: [sword-devel] Spelling (was Versification/Encoding issues)

2009-01-08 Thread Mike Hart
On issue 4, spelling: I've taken everyone's advice on spelling to heart, I will try to remain true to the original text copy. > As for spelling, and as a fascinating learning experience, pick up your > printed KJV Bible and examine the spelling of the word "ankle[s]" in Ezekiel > 47:3 and Acts

[sword-devel] Versification/Encoding Issues

2009-01-07 Thread Mike Hart
I'm working on several bibles to get them into Sword Format (ultimately into public domain, or as close to PD as possible), and I've got a few unresolved issues. Can someone point me to the how-to that covers these topics? Issue number 1 - Versification standards One Bible I'm working on is

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Bible Name guidelines ?

2008-12-22 Thread Mike Hart
Tony, (Someone correct me if  I'm wrong) To tell if a module identifier is "free": You can browse the repositories and look at the config file names.  Any ID for any module (dictionary, commentary, etc..) that has a similar ID will conflict in the mods.d directory whether its in OSIS or ThML

Re: [sword-devel] Logos required/requested

2008-12-14 Thread Mike Hart
Can we name the library for the bible society? ( i.e. the Crosswire Bible Society E-library. ) Make Crosswire about the texts, and Sword Project about the code?  It would tend to clearly differentiate the code and the bibles... for users anyway. Requests by or on behalf of a 'bible society'

Re: [sword-devel] CrossWire website up and running

2008-12-10 Thread Mike Hart
the Library page is blank ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page

Re: [sword-devel] Zondervan are the good guys

2008-12-06 Thread Mike Hart
Please keep in mind that any potential publisher who may be checking into releasing texts via the Sword Project and/or Crosswire Bible Society may read these threads, as they are all archived semi-permanently on the crosswire site. I have a lot of respect for Zondervan. If there is any greed

Re: [sword-devel] GnomeSword on Ubuntu 8.10

2008-11-21 Thread Mike Hart
During a search a few days ago I came across diatheke being listed as a vulnerability on linux systems (remote scripting possible). It didn't make any sense to me, but then I'm on PCLinux and don't have any depends for apache on my system. http://www.juniper.net/security/auto/vulnerabilities/vu