Re: [sword-devel] OSHB module

2024-03-15 Thread Daniel Owens
I am responsible for the OSHB module. If an official solution is reached, I am happy to update the source files and submit for a module update. I just did what worked best in the greatest number of front-ends. It was a pragmatic decision. Unfortunately, Xiphos got left out. Daniel On 3/14/24

Re: [sword-devel] vietccmnct

2022-08-11 Thread Daniel Owens
Dear Fr Cyrill, I was the one to create the module. I will have to see if I still have the files. At the time I created the module, DC versification was not yet supported. It would be good to recreate the Bible module as well, to include all the books, if you have time for that. Daniel On 2

Re: [sword-devel] OSHB 2.1: valid content for the lemma attribute ?

2020-12-29 Thread Daniel Owens
m/tyndale/STEPBible-Data> Best regards, David Haslam Sent from ProtonMail Mobile On Mon, Dec 28, 2020 at 12:54, pierre amadio <mailto:amadio.pie...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hello. I received the following feedback from Daniel Owens: # When creating the OSHB, we ran in to the

[sword-devel] SWORD and Tooltips

2020-04-27 Thread Daniel Owens
Does anyone know whether the Bible Tool can be used to create tooltips that show the text of a verse on a website, if the verse is a link with a valid @osisRef in it? I am thinking of something similar to what Logos's RefTagger does, except using SWORD. I ask because I have the Abbott-Smith Ma

Re: [sword-devel] Bishop 1.4.0 and SWORD Utility Modules

2020-03-19 Thread Daniel Owens
Not sure if I love it, but Google's Noto fonts are designed to handle many different languages. Noto Serif would not be a bad choice. We use it to publish books in Vietnamese. It is published under the SIL Open Font License. See https://www.google.com/get/noto/. I believe it is also converted t

[sword-devel] Help in creating a TEI lexdict module, perhaps with encoding problem

2020-02-10 Thread Daniel Owens
I am working on a Vietnamese translation of Robinson's morphological codes, and I am running into a problem. I prepared the module in TEI and am able to create the module without difficulty. However, when I open it in several front-ends, the text is garbled, like it isn't in UTF8 (the source fi

Re: [sword-devel] ETS/IBR/SBL

2018-11-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Troy, Want to grab lunch tomorrow, Tuesday? Daniel 630-229-1499 > On 12 Nov 2018, at 3:54 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: > > Happy week before Thanksgiving! > > I am scheduled to head out to Denver today for the usual cluster of annual > meetings before Thanksgiving. If anyone else plans to b

Re: [sword-devel] Strong's Numbers Standards

2017-09-27 Thread Daniel Owens
As a module creator, this has been a source of untold hours of frustration and experimentation in order to discover what works. From memory, the most widely supported format in practice is to have G or H followed by a padded number. It would be ideal if all the front-ends supported the same f

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-21 Thread Daniel Owens
:04 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: DM, I sent a response but I used the wrong email address. Here is my initial response: *** This module has never worked, as far as I can tell. I never was able to chase down why or convince Chris (who first put it up) to fix it. Thanks for calling attention to this

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-13 Thread Daniel Owens
entry is the word. It is represented in the element, but it is not the same. I also find it odd that there is a leading with the number of occurrences in the NT. I’ve not looked at the pdf to see where that came from. In Him, DM On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: This

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-13 Thread Daniel Owens
the entry is the word. It is represented in the element, but it is not the same. I also find it odd that there is a leading with the number of occurrences in the NT. I’ve not looked at the pdf to see where that came from. In Him, DM On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: T

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-13 Thread Daniel Owens
nt, but it is not the same. I also find it odd that there is a leading with the number of occurrences in the NT. I’ve not looked at the pdf to see where that came from. In Him, DM On Jan 13, 2016, at 8:14 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: This module has never worked, as far as I can tell. I nev

Re: [sword-devel] AbbottSmith module question

2016-01-13 Thread Daniel Owens
This module has never worked, as far as I can tell. I never was able to chase down why or convince Chris (who first put it up) to fix it. Thanks for calling attention to this, DM. Now the source file has many corrections to the markup and data (https://github.com/translatable-exegetical-tools/

Re: [sword-devel] Digital Bible Library

2015-02-07 Thread Daniel Owens
you can get UBS to give permission to eBible.org and CrossWire to distribute those (or any) Bibles, I would be happy to retrieve them, convert to OSIS (and USFM, if you prefer), and pass them to you to make a module with them. On 02/05/2015 06:45 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: I have been advocating

[sword-devel] Digital Bible Library

2015-02-05 Thread Daniel Owens
I have been advocating for the UBS to give permission to CrossWire to distribute several Vietnamese-language texts, available from their Digital Bible Library. Has anyone on this list worked with them to create modules? They list technical requirements at http://www.digitalbiblelibrary.org/in

Re: [sword-devel] osis genbook summary

2014-08-28 Thread Daniel Owens
Laurie, Thank you for sharing the results of your testing. It is thorough and specific! Daniel On 8/29/14 9:05 AM, Laurie Fooks wrote: Thankyou for the opportunity to raise my questions on inconsistencies between front ends in sword. I beleive this was the correct forum for this as a common

Re: [sword-devel] 1.7.2 release

2014-01-16 Thread Daniel Owens
On 1/16/14, 3:50 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 1/15/2014 3:51 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: I agree. From a strategic point of view, I think it makes sense to place a priority on mapping between KJV, NRSV, and Leningrad, but then LXX is important too. Even if it is only approximate, there are some

Re: [sword-devel] 1.7.2 release

2014-01-15 Thread Daniel Owens
I agree. From a strategic point of view, I think it makes sense to place a priority on mapping between KJV, NRSV, and Leningrad, but then LXX is important too. Even if it is only approximate, there are some places where it is very simple (most of the Psalms are offset by

Re: [sword-devel] OSMHB module

2013-07-14 Thread Daniel Owens
Chris, I made the original module, I believe. I tried to strip out all of the forward slashes, but clearly I missed some. I am sorry for that. I do not recall why I did not use to separate morph segments in the module, though my guess is that

Re: [sword-devel] Pre-verse div and headings

2013-02-21 Thread Daniel Owens
Nic, For what it's worth, VietNVB in the CrossWire repository has book intros, in case you want something to test. Daniel On 2/22/13 9:24 AM, Nic Carter wrote: Quick question about introductions in modules: On 22/01/2013, at 2:07 AM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: OK, to clear this up technica

Re: [sword-devel] Searching Morphology Codes

2013-02-21 Thread Daniel Owens
I am so glad you asked about this, DM. As an OT scholar I want to be able to search for any possible combination of lemma and morphology. The possible combinations depend on the structure of the morphology codes. Chris has helpfully listed those for

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS Schema

2012-10-14 Thread Daniel Owens
On 10/14/2012 06:19 PM, DM Smith wrote: The OSIS schema is a bit convoluted how it allows two different document models. I've been thinking that it might make sense to have three distinct OSIS schemas. The one we have now would be one of the three. The other two would be for the other two docu

Re: [sword-devel] seeking consensus on OSIS lemma best practice

2012-10-13 Thread Daniel Owens
On 10/13/2012 05:23 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 10/13/2012 6:12 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: Thanks, Chris. I had not thought of the latter solution, but that is what we need. This raises a fundamental question: how will front-ends find the right lexical entry? Currently, according to my

Re: [sword-devel] seeking consensus on OSIS lemma best practice

2012-10-13 Thread Daniel Owens
On 10/13/2012 02:43 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 10/12/2012 1:40 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: The markup would look like this: Hebrew (from Deuteronomy): תֹּאבֵדוּן֮ Aramaic (from Jeremiah): יֵאבַ֧דוּ The main problem I see is that other front-ends may not follow the process of looking for G or H

Re: [sword-devel] genbook lexicons - example problem and potential solutions

2012-10-13 Thread Daniel Owens
On 10/13/2012 12:55 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 10/11/2012 6:39 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: I am still working on the Abbott-Smith markup project (over 300 entries and counting). We have four contributors right now, so the pace is picking up. Creating a module is another story. Chris made a lexicon

Re: [sword-devel] multiple languages in modules

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Owens
On 10/12/2012 03:23 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 10/12/2012 5:44 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: is the xml way of indicating a language other than the language of the document. So you surround Hebrew text with . A small sidenote, since you do encoding: "heb" is not a legal value for xml:

[sword-devel] seeking consensus on OSIS lemma best practice

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Gary Holmlund and I are working on a problem related to the Westminster Hebrew Morphology (WHM) module. We need a consensus on markup practices for OSIS lemma. I was having a problem getting natural Hebrew lemma to look up an entry and display it in the mag window. Gary discovered that if "H"

Re: [sword-devel] multiple languages in modules

2012-10-12 Thread Daniel Owens
is the xml way of indicating a language other than the language of the document. So you surround Hebrew text with xml:lang="heb">. Judging from Ben's more recent email, even BPBible does not support it. Regardless of the menthod, the effect is great. I use Linux Libertine all the time for all

[sword-devel] multiple languages in modules

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel Owens
Working on Abbott-Smith some things came together in my mind about modules that mix languages. I have identified two problems. First, modules that mix languages do not look good when fonts are chosen per module rather than per language (regardless of the language of the module). I go back and

[sword-devel] genbook lexicons - example problem and potential solutions

2012-10-11 Thread Daniel Owens
I am still working on the Abbott-Smith markup project (over 300 entries and counting). We have four contributors right now, so the pace is picking up. Creating a module is another story. Chris made a lexicon module after the first release, but . . . I would like the module to look like this:

Re: [sword-devel] Insidious mismatched tag errors: recommendations

2012-09-20 Thread Daniel Owens
I use jEdit with the XML plugin installed. I find it helps me find problems fairly easily. Daniel On 09/20/2012 05:26 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: There are a number of pieces of software out there that will pretty-print the XML for you, with indenting and whatnot. Overly indented for what you wou

Re: [sword-devel] AndBible

2012-09-18 Thread Daniel Owens
My phone installs modules to /sdcard/Android/data/net.bible.android.activity/files/, but you tried that already. For what it's worth, I can manually install to that directory without a problem. I can even restore my backup of those files after reinstalling AndBible (long story), and it detects

Re: [sword-devel] USFM conformance in usfm2osis.py

2012-08-01 Thread Daniel Owens
I agree with Peter (there really is no spec), but you have to be realistic about what you can do as the developer. I would add everything that you can from the UBS reference document and then gradually add other common USFM elements as time goes by. Obviously you would have to decide what USFM

[sword-devel] First release of Abbott-Smith's Manual Greek Lexicon

2012-07-27 Thread Daniel Owens
I am pleased to announce the first release of a marked-up version of Abbott-Smith's Manual Greek Lexicon, v. 0.1. This release includes pages iii-3 and words occurring 1,000 times or more in the Greek NT. Obviously there is much still to do (contributors are welcome

Re: [sword-devel] namespaces in xsl

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens
distinguishes the elements that come from that namespace. David On 7/26/2012 4:26 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: I am writing a stylesheet to display Abbott-Smith's Manual Greek Lexicon of the New Testament from Github where I will post releases. I have no idea how to get the namespace declara

[sword-devel] namespaces in xsl

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens
I am writing a stylesheet to display Abbott-Smith's Manual Greek Lexicon of the New Testament from Github where I will post releases. I have no idea how to get the namespace declaration right in the xsl file. I have googled and tried several solutions, but so far nothing works. The source docu

Re: [sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens
bals which might be interesting (with sample values: setStyle=Parchment lang=el On 07/26/2012 06:43 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: Is there a way to create a link to a passage in swordweb and specify the Bible module? I want it to go to the SBL GNT module. Currently the link goes to:

[sword-devel] swordweb links

2012-07-26 Thread Daniel Owens
Is there a way to create a link to a passage in swordweb and specify the Bible module? I want it to go to the SBL GNT module. Currently the link goes to: http://www.crosswire.org/study/passagestudy.jsp?key=Luke.1.5. But that goes to whatever default Bible (in my case, NASB appears, which is th

Re: [sword-devel] Stem searching

2012-07-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Troy, I am excited about this kind of search capability. This is great work. I have a question. Will this solution also cover searching for a morph value for any lemma? It might look like: morph:*@mor1 instead of morph:lem1@mor1 In other words, if I want to find all the masculine, singular

Re: [sword-devel] [jsword-devel] Stem searching

2012-07-10 Thread Daniel Owens
Please let me know if there is anything non- or semi-technical I can do (testing, etc.) to help with this. I was surprised to learn that BW (and Logos 4, I would add) uses such arcane syntax, but it really is powerful once you learn it. I wonder how many users simply do not make use of the powe

Re: [sword-devel] LXXM

2012-06-11 Thread Daniel Owens
ld be wonderful! I agree it is distinctive and is fundamental in ways that many other versification systems are not. Daniel On Jun 2, 2012, at 2:00 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: To my knowledge, the LXXM in the experimental repository is the only LXX module that has diacritics (accents). Is there an

[sword-devel] LXXM

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Owens
To my knowledge, the LXXM in the experimental repository is the only LXX module that has diacritics (accents). Is there any way we could create a usable Bible module using that text? The current LXX module lacks accents and thus makes it much less useful. I downloaded the CCAT files and was goi

Re: [sword-devel] Back in Business

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Owens
Related to that, JIRA is still down, I believe. Daniel On 05/31/2012 07:13 PM, Greg Hellings wrote: Now that we're back in business, the most recent effort I recall was setting up and preparing for 1.7, yes? I realize not much (if anything) got done with the server stoppage. Is there an update

Re: [sword-devel] lemma systems

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/30/2012 12:03 PM, Chris Little wrote: On 04/30/2012 06:47 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: The related discussion about TEI markup and lexicon keys raises another issue: lemma systems. Currently the only defined lemma system is "strong". It is easy to connect to, but we need to move be

[sword-devel] lemma systems

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
The related discussion about TEI markup and lexicon keys raises another issue: lemma systems. Currently the only defined lemma system is "strong". It is easy to connect to, but we need to move beyond it. I have several questions: 1. Should we define new lemma systems? 2. How can we make such l

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/30/2012 06:54 AM, Chris Little wrote: On 4/30/2012 4:39 AM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Chris, I'm certainly no expert on your TEI dictionaries, but wouldn't it make sense to have the first key be one that would sort properly, and present the dictionary in true alphabetical order? I'm thinki

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-29 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/29/2012 07:28 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi Daniel, On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 4:21 AM, Daniel Owens <mailto:dhow...@pmbx.net>> wrote: Well, it may be a poor markup choice on my part, but the Strongs modules are marked up the same way. I was just following the es

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-28 Thread Daniel Owens
Well, it may be a poor markup choice on my part, but the Strongs modules are marked up the same way. I was just following the established pattern. I can see a couple of reasons to include a title in addition to the key: - Normally attributes are not displayed, only the content of elements, exce

Re: [sword-devel] TEI formatting, duplicated key (BDB Glosses)

2012-04-28 Thread Daniel Owens
Well, it may be a poor markup choice on my part. It was intuitive to me to include a title for each entry since it is not intuitive to display the key attribute in the text of the entry. But obviously my intuition is not the same as the filter developers. I could see cases in which a lexicon key w

Re: [sword-devel] Chinese Strongs markup

2012-04-25 Thread Daniel Owens
David, This issue crops up in the WHM module because prefixed and suffixed morphemes are parsed separately. Here is an example: lemma="strong:lemma1 strong:lemma2" morph="whmmorph:morph1 whmmorph:morph2" src="1 2">וַיְהִ֣י. The waw conjunction is parsed separately from the verb. I do not think

Re: [sword-devel] Ubuntu 12.04 ....

2012-04-23 Thread Daniel Owens
On 04/23/2012 02:51 PM, Barry Drake wrote: On 23/04/12 16:17, Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: The information Dmitrijs asked me for did give me the information I needed to sort the problem. I'm glad you got sorted it out = Mixing development repositories, can lead to all sort of weird stuff. Y

Re: [sword-devel] [bt-devel] SWORD 1.7 - Strongs numbers

2012-04-22 Thread Daniel Owens
There is a disambiguation problem for Strongs numbers. This may be a markup question, but the engine cannot connect H0001 and 1. The current Strong's TEI file has the former but all other modules have the latter. As a consequence the BDBGlosses_Strongs does not currently work with any Bible

[sword-devel] WLC module questions

2012-04-12 Thread Daniel Owens
I was using the WLC module to test another module, and I discovered a couple of things in the WLC: 1. The פ and ס "paragraph" markers are deleted in favor of actual paragraph breaks. The editorial decision to add paragraph markers there is reasonable enough (though they are traditionally assum

Re: [sword-devel] Websites

2012-04-03 Thread Daniel Owens
I like Patrick's idea of targeting different groups with different pages. What if www.crosswire.org were a very simple page with very little text - just a brief description of CrossWire (like the one we already have), perhaps a graphic cycling through screenshots of various front-ends, and rath

Re: [sword-devel] simple dummy bible module available?

2012-03-14 Thread Daniel Owens
module as I go. I tried to Daniel Owens' OSIS example and it didn't work. Something simpler. All I really need is the space to add verses as I translate them. Thanks. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.o

Re: [sword-devel] USFM -> OSIS -> Sword

2012-03-07 Thread Daniel Owens
On 03/07/2012 02:46 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/06/2012 04:12 PM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:17 AM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson mailto:kahunap...@mpj.cx>> wrote: On 03/06/2012 12:47 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: 1. You accurately preserve al

[sword-devel] Parallel display of modules with diverse v11n

2012-03-06 Thread Daniel Owens
As many are likely aware, the Verity Project has produced a program that displays the NET and WLC in parallel with the verses lining up properly (at least where I have tested it). Many of the building blocks are there to do that in SWORD, and Peter mentioned there are efforts in the works to do

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
ound Gen 1 in Matt 1, Mark 1 in Genesis chapter 36. Looked through the entire module and didn't find Psalms. Looks like JSword nightly flipped the two testaments. I have something to look forward to this week. -- DM On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: That is wonderful news. I

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
of BD. I found Gen 1 in Matt 1, Mark 1 in Genesis chapter 36. Looked through the entire module and didn't find Psalms. Looks like JSword nightly flipped the two testaments. I have something to look forward to this week. -- DM On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: That is won

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
On 03/04/2012 06:09 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Daniel Owens writes: U... In a fit of freakishness I had not anticipated at all, I just discovered 2 minutes ago that Xiphos has never offered variant support for OSIS at all; the conditional to find variants looked only for ThML. This has

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
asty upload. Daniel On 03/04/2012 05:36 PM, DM Smith wrote: Daniel, I downloaded the module from the link you provided, but it was missing some files. It only had the vss files (index files) and no data files. DM On Mar 4, 2012, at 6:15 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: That is wonderful news. I have

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
It has a nice interface, but I was not able to see anything of the test module. Daniel On 03/04/2012 03:31 PM, David Haslam wrote: http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Talk:OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample#xulsword Anyone not already familiar with xulsword might be pleasantly surprised. I like it - but then

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
A couple of additional clarifications: I am running vanilla SWORD on Linux Mint, so I am running osis2mod rev 2478. Also, this module has content in Gen 1:1-5, Ps 3:1-2, and Mark 1:14-15. Daniel On 03/04/2012 05:14 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: Greg, Take a look at the OSIS file and the compiled

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
4, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: I did some testing of several of the major front-ends (sorry, I do not have a Mac or iPhone). I posted the results at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BSPExample#Level_of_Support_by_Front-ends. Overall feature support is strongest in BPBible

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
e, and BibleCS do not support canonical titles. --Greg On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 6:59 PM, Daniel Owens wrote: Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible, I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
On 03/04/2012 04:24 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson wrote: On 03/04/2012 11:08 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: But BibleTime, Xiphos, and BibleCS simply do not display the text of Canonical psalm titles. That is a severe bug. Wow. That is a scary bug! I guess that means that for now, it is not OK to

Re: [sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-04 Thread Daniel Owens
e affected. Thanks again, Patrick On Sunday, 4. March 2012 01:59:15 Daniel Owens wrote: Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible, I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles ( http

[sword-devel] OSIS example

2012-03-03 Thread Daniel Owens
Based on varied sources, including Patrick's helpful example OSIS Bible, I put together an example OSIS "Bible" that validates and is consistent with the wiki page on OSIS Bibles ( http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles). The text itself is mostly KJV text, with a little Hebrew to illustrate

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel Owens
Not sure if my initial email went through, but I will take up the task of creating an example OSIS document. I started one at http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles/BCVExample. It probably does not validate yet, so don't jump on me yet. I need to go but will work more on it later. I will eve

Re: [sword-devel] preverse divs

2012-03-01 Thread Daniel Owens
Hmmm, that sounds like a tantalizing assignment, that is, if developers pay attention. :) Such a document would need to have excerpts from various parts of the Bible, including especially the Psalms and the Gospels since between them several of the odd markup issues show up. If someone were to

Re: [sword-devel] genbooks and commentaries (was: proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs)

2012-02-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Greg is right and Troy is right. :) The need to support specified footnote markers in Bibles is less than for genbooks and commentaries. Implicitly I meant to refer to the latter. Again, this gets back what philosophy of module creation to use. It is fine to separate form and structure as long

Re: [sword-devel] lang processing

2012-02-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Some form of font instructions is beneficial for certain languages to make life easier for non-power users and other situations. Sometimes a front-end does not give the option of configuring fonts. I was getting used to AndBible recently and discovered that the SBLGNT module specified a font an

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-12 Thread Daniel Owens
On 02/11/2012 09:27 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: What I have tried to propose before with CSS, and what Karl has proposed here with footnote and cross-reference notes is that the application ought to provide good defaults (generated cross-reference and footnote markers when they are lacking) but to

Re: [sword-devel] lang processing

2012-02-12 Thread Daniel Owens
Some form of font instructions is beneficial for certain languages to make life easier for non-power users and other situations. The first scenario is obvious—most people would like Hebrew or Greek or whatever to display correctly right out of the box. Incidentally, I had a colleague email me t

Re: [sword-devel] proposed patch: adding n=X marker content to footnotes and xrefs

2012-02-11 Thread Daniel Owens
On 02/11/2012 09:27 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: What I have tried to propose before with CSS, and what Karl has proposed here with footnote and cross-reference notes is that the application ought to provide good defaults (generated cross-reference and footnote markers when they are lacking) but to

Re: [sword-devel] Av11n and coverage

2012-01-06 Thread Daniel Owens
Yes, mapping! I don't have strong opinion about how this works out on the engine side of things, but proper mapping between versifications for front-ends that support parallel display is essential for doing work with Old Testament Hebrew and Greek texts and with modern translations. I have hap

Re: [sword-devel] Psalm titles

2012-01-04 Thread Daniel Owens
Also, BPBible 0.5 (Windows) displays both AND distinguishes between them using italics for the canonical title. AndBible shows both but does not distinguish between them, placing the canonical title above the non-canonical title. Daniel On 01/05/2012 05:04 AM, Daniel Owens wrote: Yes, right

Re: [sword-devel] Psalm titles

2012-01-04 Thread Daniel Owens
Yes, right. There is a non-canonical section title for each psalm and then a canonical psalm title for some. BibleTime 2.9 does not display the canonical titles. Xiphos 3.1.4 does not display either—it just leaves a big space. BibleDesktop 1.6 displays both but does not differentiate between t

[sword-devel] Psalm titles

2012-01-03 Thread Daniel Owens
I looked through the mail archives but did not find an answer. The wiki recommends marking up Psalm titles as follows: A Psalm of David, when he fled from Absalom his son. This does not display for the KJV module, nor does it for my module. The ESV manages to display both the

Re: [sword-devel] Open Hebrew Lexicon. (David Troidl), (Daniel Owens)

2011-09-05 Thread Daniel Owens
, and giving it more notoriety. I'm following this thread with interest. God bless, Ben Am Sonntag, 4. September 2011, 21:48:44 schrieb Daniel Owens: Snip... On 09/04/2011 01:12 PM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Aaron, On 9/4/2011 10:50 AM, Aaron Christianson wrote: Daniel, This does sound very much

Re: [sword-devel] Open Hebrew Lexicon. (David Troidl), (Daniel Owens)

2011-09-04 Thread Daniel Owens
Snip... On 09/04/2011 01:12 PM, David Troidl wrote: Hi Aaron, On 9/4/2011 10:50 AM, Aaron Christianson wrote: Daniel, This does sound very much like what I am interested in doing, but unfortunately, you seem to be using WeSay, which appears to have some deficiencies in it's Linux versions th

Re: [sword-devel] Open Hebrew Lexicon.

2011-09-03 Thread Daniel Owens
Another project that sounds like what you are interested in doing is at http://www.textonline.org/hebrewaramaiclexicon. The project is fairly dormant right now, but in a year or so I hope to pick it up again and run with it. We are working from the lemma isolated by the Groves Center for the We

Re: [sword-devel] Logos Personal Book Builder

2011-08-14 Thread Daniel Owens
I haven't looked at it myself either, but I like the concept. This past week I was trying to revive the OpenOffice filter that was broken with version 3 of OpenOffice. I have isolated the problem code in the XSLT filter and commented it out so that the filter "works," but it doesn't export the

Re: [sword-devel] OpenOffice GenBook plugin - can't export

2011-08-06 Thread Daniel Owens
To answer myself, the filter worked earlier today but is now giving the same write error. Sorry about this. I will have to look into it more carefully. Daniel For those interested in using the GenBook plugin, I just uploaded a new version that works with LibreOffice 3.3.2. You can find it at

Re: [sword-devel] OpenOffice GenBook plugin - can't export

2011-08-06 Thread Daniel Owens
For those interested in using the GenBook plugin, I just uploaded a new version that works with LibreOffice 3.3.2. You can find it at https://sites.google.com/site/danielowensstuff/. Daniel On 01/02/2011 02:32 AM, alvanx wrote: Hi, I found this thread after I discovered the OpenOffice plugin

Re: [sword-devel] Font size specification inside

2011-06-25 Thread Daniel Owens
On 06/25/2011 03:47 PM, ref...@gmx.net wrote: As Jonathan has explained, this is about the tetragrammaton and marking it up is not a matter of niceness, but carries serious meaning. How to render it is a matter entirely separate and might require thought in a fair number of situations. But

Re: [sword-devel] Font size specification inside

2011-06-25 Thread Daniel Owens
On 06/25/2011 10:18 AM, ref...@gmx.net wrote: It is not so much to imitate print texts, but to allow different languages to use appropriate solutions. Class is good, descriptive presentation is bad. Sent from my HTC - Reply message - From: "Jonathan Morgan" Date: Sat, Jun 25, 2011 1

Re: [sword-devel] Sword 1.6.x and various frontends

2011-05-24 Thread Daniel Owens
On 05/24/2011 06:21 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi Luke, On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Luke Schroeder > wrote: I'm slowly but surely working on getting our translation's electronic bible published. I can only install the file into Xiphos when I have it u

Re: [sword-devel] MDF/SFM Dictionary Import into Sword Format

2011-04-17 Thread Daniel Owens
I actually have a very crude Perl script to do something like that, but I haven't used it for awhile. If no one else bites on the project, I can take a look at what I have. The most significant challenge I would anticipate is that entries might be structured in a variety of ways, so something c

Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?

2011-04-11 Thread Daniel Owens
It is capable of handling multiple files. Typically Paratext has one file for each book of the Bible, so that is why it handles those files that way. I remember running into this problem in Windows, but I don't remember how I solved it. I think I switched my OS. :) I agree this utility should

Re: [sword-devel] The problem with dictionaries (by David Ker)

2011-02-16 Thread Daniel Owens
David, I hadn't thought about publicizing on Facebook. I have so far avoided getting an account, and I probably will continue to do so until my dissertation is finished. But it would make sense to do that since so many people are on Facebook. Daniel On 02/16/2011 10:38 AM, David Haslam wrot

Re: [sword-devel] The problem with dictionaries (by David Ker)

2011-02-16 Thread Daniel Owens
At TExTonline.org we have set up a project for developing a modern replacement for Strongs using WeSay, and therefore LIFT. I haven't developed a script to transform the LIFT file into TEI, but that is on the to-do list when I actually get to working on this seriously. However, I have realized

Re: [sword-devel] The problem with dictionaries (by David Ker)

2011-02-16 Thread Daniel Owens
On 02/16/2011 04:16 AM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Maybe this is something to take note of for SWORD dictionary modules in future. SWORD dictionaries are build on TEI or any of the older formats. Peter That is true, but LIFT could be easily transformed to TEI since TEI entries can be structured

Re: [sword-devel] can't do lucene Hebrew searches in KJV

2011-01-20 Thread Daniel Owens
On 01/20/2011 07:36 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Of course, it would be preferable if users didn't have to type arcane strings like "lemma:H05062" in in the first place. I know I got a comment about BPBible 0.5 beta 1 that it would be good to be able to search for multiple Greek/Hebrew words u

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-14 Thread Daniel Owens
On 01/14/2011 12:48 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri, 14 Jan 2011 13:32:44 -0500 Von: DM Smith * The construction of a Bibtex entry looks error prone. Having a web page that can construct an entry from input would be good. I think I would go one step f

Re: [sword-devel] Bibtex for modules

2011-01-11 Thread Daniel Owens
On 01/11/2011 11:27 AM, Trevor Jenkins wrote: On Mon, 10 Jan 2011, Peter von Kaehne wrote: Modules really should have bibtex or something similar in their conf file. This would improve the use of our library for academic purposes. I don't understand this. First, I don't understand why a sy

Re: [sword-devel] BPBible 0.5 beta 1 released

2010-12-31 Thread Daniel Owens
This has been worth waiting for. Right to left and continuous scrolling is a huge step forward. I also like the options for displaying Strongs numbers. Well done! Daniel On 12/31/2010 07:24 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote: Hi all, BPBible 0.5 beta 1 has been released. As this is the first preview

Re: [sword-devel] How to log out Strongs modules for development

2010-12-13 Thread Daniel Owens
On 12/13/2010 04:06 PM, Peter von Kaehne wrote: On 13/12/10 16:13, David Haslam wrote: If you wish to obtain the OSIS source text for a module, then you'd need to contact the relevant CrossWire volunteer. The Strong modules are created using TEI not OSIS. I am not sure (though Chris Little wi

Re: [sword-devel] av11n mappings

2010-11-09 Thread Daniel Owens
I would like to chime in briefly with a real world case of option 2 below that I am dealing with right now. I am working on a paper on the Psalms where versification varies quite a bit between versions (Leningrad, LXX, and KJV, etc.). I use both BibleTime and Logos because both offer features I

Re: [sword-devel] Hyphens in book names

2010-09-30 Thread Daniel Owens
On 09/29/2010 05:42 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote: I do have a question to the original poster (and regarding Vietnamese). Do you also use '-' in ranges or do you use another character? This might introduce localized logic differences to the parser, not simply localization strings. Troy Vietna

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