Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 08:10 pm, Jason Turner wrote: > Dave, > > Thanks for your response. I've hashed through a lot of the > advantages/disadvantages on IRC with some of the other developers. I think > that a .NET version would be the fastest to develop, and Diatheke *is* a > viable solution.

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
Dave, Thanks for your response. I've hashed through a lot of the advantages/disadvantages on IRC with some of the other developers. I think that a .NET version would be the fastest to develop, and Diatheke *is* a viable solution. However, I've decided to start work on a wxWindows version based

Re: [sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread Nic Carter
yes, I shall throw my hand up at this stage. I'm half wondering atm whether it is worth redoing Bible Reader, starting from scratch, or doing stuff like Stephen Denne is doing with DataCute... I think I need to figure out what is desired with putting effort into this... I think it currently

Re: [sword-devel] Calvin's Institutes Problems

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Dave Hall wrote: Seems like the Search window should only change modules when you expicitly select a new module from the Search window itself via the left-side module list accessed by the [...] button. I hate the fact that the search window has a different UI () for selecting modules than the

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread David Mullens
Hi, I'm basically a java coder, but I purchased the .Net C# studio. I've played around with it a bit. If you end up doing something in C# let me know. Peace, Dave. Never doubt that a group of thoughtfully, creative people can change the world - Margaret Mead > -Original Message- > F

RE: [sword-devel] Calvin's Institutes Problems

2003-03-12 Thread Dave Hall
I have noticed problems searching in *any* module with large entries. Since the search window pulls up the entire entry for each "hit" this can amount to a lot of data being retreived and displayed in the Search window. Often I have done this by "accident" because if you go back to the main sword

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Keith Ralston
Klaus, Tried to get to your site. Got this instead: 410 ms20 ms10 ms gbr5-p80.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.123.17.26] 5 *** Request timed out. 610 ms10 ms20 ms ggr1-p340.dlstx.ip.att.net [12.122.12.74] 710 ms10 ms20 ms acr2-so-2-1-0.

[sword-devel] Calvin's Institutes Problems

2003-03-12 Thread Jason and Larua Brooks
Greetings, I created the Calvin's Institutes modules that are now on the site for a download. I recently tried searching for Genesis in the Institues as a test. It retures 4 results, and then starts some very odd display habits. It will regen a couple of times before either ceasing to

[sword-devel] In The Beginning Software

2003-03-12 Thread Christopher Frazier
Costas - wonderful job on the look and feel. I'd definitely cast my vote for something similar. It IS a little slower than the current Sword on window refreshes, though, but not enough to make me avoid it. It'll be interesting to play around with to get some ideas from. Chris __

Re: [sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread Paul Gould
Well, I've been working with PocketStudio for a while, and would like to be involved. Most of the development tools for Palm assume a proficiency with C or C++; PocketStudio is somewhat like Delphi for the Palm. Anything I could do to be involved (including prayer!), I would be honored. God Bles

[sword-devel] CLX controls for SWORD (was: UI for Windows Question...)

2003-03-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Costas, My apologies for not responding sooner. We have CLX components for Kylix created as a binding to the sword api. There is actually a fairly extensive demo using these components to produce a usable study tool (create by Terry Biggs). We also had someone successfully compile and use t

[sword-devel] .net bindings (was: Introduction)

2003-03-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
Hey guys. We have bindings for a number of other languages. It's not a terrible tedious process to produce such. A set of ActiveX controls (or whatever M$ is calling them these days) would probably be a weeks worth of work. We have a flatapi to help facilitate creation of such bindings, tho

Re: [sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread Troy A. Griffitts
:) maybe someday. I'd be interested in working with a group of people to make this happen. If I hear much response to this thread with willing volunteers, we can start a group/project aimed at this end. -Troy. Chris Little wrote: On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Barry Drake wrote: Palm Bible has now

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Simon
Well, a small correction: Delphi cannot compile C++ code (but BCB can compile Delphi code). But, it is possible to use obj-files (or even better: components) compiled in BCB. -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Klaus R. H. Walther Verzonden: wo

RE: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Simon
Well, I installed it, and it does look really great! I don't know if you use the Sword API (or Diatheke), or if you use your own file format (and if you do, is that going to change?). In my opinion the interface is much easier to use then the current Sword (windows) interface.. Greetz, Simon --

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Klaus R. H. Walther
Hello Am Mittwoch, 12. März 2003 09:21 schrieb Costas I. Stergiou: > two days ago I posted a message on the list about how I could use > the sword api from delphi and some questions about BCC. > I see now that there is a conversation about a new UI for Sword and > I would like to add some comment

[sword-devel] Website Off-line

2003-03-12 Thread Keith Ralston
I am getting Apache errors when trying to access the SWORD web site. ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel

Re: [sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread Chris Little
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Barry Drake wrote: > Palm Bible has now changed to a commercial project. However, we have the > last GPL issue both of code and binaries at > http://www.crosswire.org/crosswire/palmbible/index.html in the hope that > _someone_ will persue development and support of this ex

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Victor Porton
> conversation in this thread. You raise a good question about the > usefullness > of Diatheke. Hopefully someone can answer that. My main concern, and the Diatheke is useful even to have on a e.g. laptop. ___ sword-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
Trevor, I replied to your "introduction" mail but I think it is better to continue the conversation in this thread. You raise a good question about the usefullness of Diatheke. Hopefully someone can answer that. My main concern, and the reason that I was aiming at .NET, was to make sure that th

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
I'm pretty sure that the .exe in question uses several DLL's that can be redistributed, I'm almost positive the Oracle's client installation uses Borland's JRE DLL implementation. I would say I am positive actually. On Wednesday 12 March 2003 08:15 am, Chris wrote: > Costas I. Stergiou wrote: >

Re: [sword-devel] Introduction

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
Trevor, I recently brought up the same kind of question in another thread. The conclusions I have come to so far are: To use the SwordApi with either .NET or VB6 would require 1 of 3 things: 1)Convert Library to Managed C++ and compile with the C# compiler to .NET runtime 2)Add COM interfaces

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Have you tried to run this exe on a machine without a JRE? No, so maybe it is using the JRE behind the scenes. On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .ex

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Have you tried to run this exe on a machine without a JRE? On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, Chris wrote: > > Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I > asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .exe of about 70kb, that > didn't appear to require the JRE. How it works I don't

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Well I had a little Java swing program, about 5kb .jar file. And when I asked it to, JBuilder7 converted it into a .exe of about 70kb, that didn't appear to require the JRE. How it works I don't know, but it seems to work. There's also the option of Linux and Sun/Sparc native executeables. Cos

Re: GPL and .NET was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Jason Turner
Also the great project of SharpDevelop (gpl'd ide for .net written in .net) On Wednesday 12 March 2003 03:39 am, Daniel Glassey wrote: > www.go-mono.org > > plenty of GPL'd .NET there ;) > d > > On 12 Mar 2003 at 2:11, Daniel Russell sent forth the message: > > Jason Turner wrote: > > >Since I can

Re: [sword-devel] Convert markup in all modules to OSIS?

2003-03-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Monday 03 March 2003 01:09 pm, Simon wrote: > >> Ah, any idea when the OSIS Presentation module will be finished? > > > >I don't believe it is even started yet, but I presume it is still > > planned. > > Uhm, not so nice. I am currently writing a script to convert Calvins > Commentaries (from cc

Re: [sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there ... On 12 Mar 2003 at 13:06, David Lim wrote: > I have been reading your archived posts datingback to Oct 2001.In it > you mentioned the avaliability of a bible converter for Palm Bible. I am > wondering if I may download it and do some convversion on my own. It does > not seem to b

Re: [sword-devel] Convert markup in all modules to OSIS?

2003-03-12 Thread Brook Humphrey
On Monday 03 March 2003 08:47 am, Simon wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe it would be nice to convert all markup in all modules to OSIS. I > didn't look in the sourcecode, but I am sure that supporting just 1 > format for markup requires much less code... > > Currently I am writing a PHP script that replaces

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Hi Chris, I don't think JBuilder can produce executables (native). Actually, no java app can be converted to an executable unless the executable contains the whole JRE within. I am also using JBuilder from version 2 and I would agree that it's interface is quite good but still lacks the native L&F.

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
I personally would sacrifice windows L&F for the cross-platform ability. Plus, JBuilder can produce native executables. I havn't tried benchmarking them, but I presume the JBuilder environment itself uses it, and it is very snappy. Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Actually, my full time job is java de

JSword was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Glassey
Guys, I guess this needs advertised a bit better but there is already work going on on sword for java - JSword http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/index.jsp See http://www.crosswire.org/jsword/devt.jsp if you would like to get involved Regards, Daniel On 12 Mar 2003 at 13:31, Costas I. Stergiou

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Actually, my full time job is java dev and it is really my favorite language for many reasons. Well, the reason I would not suggest java is because it is slow in the GUI, and does not provide a real windows look and feel. All the Java GUI programs I have used are indeed a bit slow and out of the wi

GPL and .NET was Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Glassey
www.go-mono.org plenty of GPL'd .NET there ;) d On 12 Mar 2003 at 2:11, Daniel Russell sent forth the message: > Jason Turner wrote: > > >Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands, > >I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building > >the UI on top of that. Of c

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Chris
Costas I. Stergiou wrote: Some months ago I started on a software for personal use that would help in bible study. Since my best knowledge is in Java (5 years now) I started the implementation with it. Very soon I realized the (obvious) fact that Java is NOT for the Desktop. Why? My full time jo

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Daniel Russell
Jason Turner wrote: Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands, I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building the UI on top of that. Of course releasing the whole thing under the GPL. I have a technical question: can .NET and GPL be mixed Is'nt Microsoft bec

Re: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...

2003-03-12 Thread Costas I. Stergiou
Hi all again, two days ago I posted a message on the list about how I could use the sword api from delphi and some questions about BCC. I see now that there is a conversation about a new UI for Sword and I would like to add some comments on that (although this is only my second post on the list).

[sword-devel] Palm Bible Converter

2003-03-12 Thread David Lim
Hi Poetry,       I have been reading your archived posts dating back to Oct 2001. In it you mentioned the avaliability of a bible converter for Palm Bible. I am wondering if I may download it and do some convversion on my own. It does not seem to be available on sourceforge anymore. God Bles