I personally would sacrifice windows L&F for the cross-platform ability.
Plus, JBuilder can produce native executables. I havn't tried benchmarking them,
but I presume the JBuilder environment itself uses it, and it is very snappy.
Costas I. Stergiou wrote:
Actually, my full time job is java dev and it is really my favorite language for many reasons. Well, the reason I would not suggest java is because it is slow in the GUI, and does not provide a real windows look and feel. All the Java GUI programs I have used are indeed a bit slow and out of the windows feel. Also the JVM is not standard within windows. It would have been much easier for me to do my own work in Java (and I would have done in half the time propably) but I think that every language is good at some stuff and windows GUI is not what Java is for. I think that if you compare a native win GUI with any Java GUI (look, responsiveness, etc) you will agree that the diferrences are quite noteable.
Costas
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
Costas I. Stergiou wrote:
Why? My full time job is writing Java desktop (gui) software.Some months ago I started on a software for personal use that would help in bible study. Since my best knowledge is in Java (5 years now) I started the implementation with it. Very soon I realized the (obvious) fact that Java is NOT for the Desktop.
I thought of VB (where I also have experience) but I quickly dropped the idea since the code it produces is really slow. I ended up with Delphi (since it is really easier than C++) and now i have made a first version of a windows software for bible study. One of the reasons I didn't go with some of the already existing software is because none of these are quite good at searching/handling greek text (I am Greek) and none of these had a modern Greek translation which is the one most commonly used here in Greece. Also personal notes was really important and no sw gave real significance to that issue.
I am married with one child, and my responsibilities leave my with few time to work on this project. I would be really happy though if I could help anyhow with this idea. I have recently put up a site with the software which (unfortunately?) is in greek, though I have made an english version of the software. If anyone would like to check it out here is the link for the english version of the software: http://www.theword.gr/bin/theword-en-0.99-full.exe
I would be really happy if I could help out here in any way, either by giving the code, some ideas on the platform or anything else I could help with. I could also give some ideas about the Java platform since it is my everyday work for years now.
Thanks, Costas (once more, excuse me for my bad english)
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003, Chris wrote:
Jason Turner wrote:
Personally I'd rather see a Java version than .NET.
So, to get to my point, I was considering writing a new UI in .NET. However, .NET cannot utilize native C++ libraries. It can use Managed C++, C#, ActiveX DLL's and native C libraries. Since I cannot use the Sword API as it stands, I was considering reimplementing a subset of it in .NET, and then building the UI on top of that. Of course releasing the whole thing under the GPL.
So, I'm looking for comments. Does anyone have any other suggestions? Is there anything that I have missed? Should I take a closer look at Diatheke or ActiveDiatheke? Is someone else already working on a new Windows client?
Thanks.
Jason Turner
On Monday 10 March 2003 09:27 pm, David Trotz wrote:
No the windows version does not allow this. Certain versions of the bible will automatically break the paragraph into seperate lines per verse, but other than that the answer is no. Sorry. It may be added someday. David ----- Original Message ----- From: Christopher Frazier To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: [sword-devel] UI for Windows Question...
I've been looking everywhere for this, and since I haven't found the archive to the lists, I guess I have to ask it here:
How do you view the Bible text one verse per line in Sword for Windows?!? BibleTime does this in an obvious way, but I cannot figure this out at all in Windows. Does the program do this at all?
TIA!
Chris
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