Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.4rc2 BUG

2002-09-02 Thread Christian Renz
>why not? Well, that is a valid question. I just wanted to give a quick answer to the one fact you stated that I know something about. While I could download the Aleppo module, I can't try out the search -- I am using Windows ME and sword doesn't support Unicode copy/paste on those non-Unicode Wi

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
Well said, well spoken! -Ed On Monday 02 September 2002 11:17 pm, Danny Freedman wrote: > Actually, if the Sword Project only included the NTs > without the respective OTs, I would not be offended... > > I do realise that this is a christian project, and I > realise that there are elements of d

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Danny Freedman
Actually, if the Sword Project only included the NTs without the respective OTs, I would not be offended... I do realise that this is a christian project, and I realise that there are elements of doctrine in the NT. However, it is not the place of the Sword Project to dictate how people should u

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Danny Freedman
My My...all those verses thank goodness for sword and that verse reference list in the Search window... BibleCS must be good for something eh? DF __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and M

Re: [sword-devel] Bugs in RSV module

2002-09-02 Thread Danny Freedman
--- Joshua Holman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In some of the Psalms in the RSV, it seems that the > Psalm title is > considered the first verse throwing off the number > of verses in that > Psalm off by one. This is correct and is not a module bug, the RSV does not follow the standard verse n

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
Thanks for verifying the problem, Ed. Jerry At 07:57 PM 9/2/2002 -0700, Ed Sylvis wrote: >This is indeed a very strange bug. The test above reveals the same problem on >my XP box. Furthermore, since I have different font sizes throughout my >personal commentary, any search in the commentary mod

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 07:56 PM 9/2/2002 -0700, Geoffrey W Hastings wrote: >I notice that if I click into the bible window and go back to the search >window the flickering stops. Then if I click into the personal commentary >and go back to the search window the flickering starts up again. Clicking on the bible wind

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.4rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Sing Yong Tan
Thanks for the pointer! I realise that the text that are a little far apart are only by a char or two. Eg Gen 3:5, there is an extra char before the chinese character for God. (others James 1:1) Is it has something to do with all the chinese character for God? That a space is put in front of i

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Geoffrey W Hastings
I had actually gone in and selected all and changed the font size to 12 I had left one heading at 14. But now I went in and made sure that all my personal commentaries are at 12 font with no bold. The problem still persists. I notice that if I click into the bible window and go back to the search

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 02:04, Todd Pedlar wrote: > Christians who do not accept Christ's divinity? If Christ is > not God, then Christ cannot save. I agree, but they don't. The immediate (topical) consideration is whether we want to encourage them to use something other than the NWT or KIT for the

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Monday 02 September 2002 09:35 pm, Don A. Elbourne Jr. wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Persons who want to continue debating doctrinal statements or casting > > "fundamentalist Christian" flames about are invited to do so privately, > > in

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
On Monday 02 September 2002 07:09 pm, Jerry Hastings wrote: > Anyway, try this. find two verses that have no entries. Make an entry in > each that says, test test test. Start with the size 12. Save the entries > and do a phrase search for, test test test. It should display OK. Now edit > the first

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Derek Neighbors
> Doctrinal statements serve many purposes, not the least of which is to > define the acceptable boundaries within a group. Boundaries, by nature, are > exclusivistic. Having an official doctrinal statement, no matter how broad > it might be, would imply that "this is what we believe and if you do

Re: [sword-devel] [meta] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Leon Brooks
On Tue, 3 Sep 2002 08:42, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Today there is an attempt to redefine Christianity. Where `today' is defined as every day since the serpent spoke to Eve. > There is a growing Xian movement which is Christianity minus the "real" > Christ. These individuals pick and chose wha

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
On Monday 02 September 2002 06:04 pm, Geoffrey W Hastings wrote: > I checked all my personal commentary and the font size in all but one is > 12. In one comment I have a font of 14 in a heading. > I also set my display font setting to 14. > Still no change. Personal commentary fonts are not set g

Re: [sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 06:04 PM 9/2/2002 -0700, Geoffrey W Hastings wrote: >I checked all my personal commentary and the font size in all but one is >12. In one comment I have a font of 14 in a heading. >I also set my display font setting to 14. >Still no change. How can you tell? The editor on my entries does say w

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
> - Original Message - > From: "Troy A. Griffitts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2002 12:27 AM > Subject: Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 > > Release Candidate 2 is available. I think I've fixed all pending > critical bugs. Please let me kn

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
I agree. I see no need for the Sword Project to adopt an official doctrinal statement. This does not mean that doctrine is not important. I believe doctrine is extremely important. I believe every Christian should hammer out their own doctrinal statement through careful study of God's Word. The Sw

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
- Original Message - From: "Chris Little" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Persons who want to continue debating doctrinal statements or casting > "fundamentalist Christian" flames about are invited to do so privately, in > the newsgroups, or elsewhere. Anyone looking for that "elsewhere" might wan

RE: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Storm
I just wanted to throw my two cents in the hat. Is your goal to be inclusive or exclusive?  I hope that the goal is to be inclusive. Possibly a general statement about the Bible being the Creator's revelation to humankind would be sufficient. By the way, I am a Southern Baptist Pastor in Ok

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Adrian Korten
Good day Troy, I'm pretty happy with the current release of Sword for the English and Thai language. Some minor display bugs remain but overall, I'd give it a 'Yea' for release. The program works quite well and tester fatigue seems to be settling in. The problem with book name display disappeare

[sword-devel] Re: BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug Flickering results in search

2002-09-02 Thread Geoffrey W Hastings
I checked all my personal commentary and the font size in all but one is 12. In one comment I have a font of 14 in a heading. I also set my display font setting to 14. Still no change. On Mon, 02 Sep 2002 02:46:27 -0700 Jerry Hastings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I have been playing with this an

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Trevor Jenkins
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Since the owner of this list does not wish to discuss such issues, I > will withdraw my name from the mailing list. Isn't today some kind of public holiday in the US? Perhaps he's taking a well-earned rest from working on Sw

[sword-devel] Please remove my e-mail address from this list

2002-09-02 Thread PAProphet
After searching through the header I was not able to find the "remove" directions.  Please remove my name from this list.  Thank you very much.

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread PAProphet
In a message dated 9/2/2002 7:57:41 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: you sound as if you're using the phrase "fundamentalist Christian" in a negative sense. I used to consider myself a fundamentalist Christian because I do believe in the fundamentals of the Christian faith.  T

Re: [sword-devel] Bugs in RSV module

2002-09-02 Thread Chris Little
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Joshua Holman wrote: > In some of the Psalms in the RSV, it seems that the Psalm title is > considered the first verse throwing off the number of verses in that > Psalm off by one. You're correct. The heading should be in the heading entry rather than verse 1. The CCAT f

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Chris Little
On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Pastor Will wrote: > Just wanted to get some clarification on these points. So, if I'm > understanding things correctly, the Sword project is a fundamentalist > Christian project and not an ecumenical effort as I assumed from the > website statements? Is this indeed the offi

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
On Monday 02 September 2002 03:21 pm, Pastor Will wrote: > Just wanted to get some clarification on these points. So, if I'm > understanding things correctly, the Sword project is a fundamentalist > Christian project and not an ecumenical effort as I assumed from the > website statements? Is thi

[sword-devel] Bugs in RSV module

2002-09-02 Thread Joshua Holman
In some of the Psalms in the RSV, it seems that the Psalm title is considered the first verse throwing off the number of verses in that Psalm off by one. An example is Psalm 23: 1 A Psalm of David. 2 The LORD is my shepherd, I shall not want; 3 he makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Pastor Will
Just wanted to get some clarification on these points.  So, if I'm understanding things correctly, the Sword project is a fundamentalist Christian project and not an ecumenical effort as I assumed from the website statements?  Is this indeed the official stance of the principal developers?  

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread David's Mailing List and Spam Reciever
On Monday 02 September 2002 02:04 pm, Todd Pedlar wrote: > Whoa. > > Christians who do not accept Christ's divinity? If Christ is > not God, then Christ cannot save. Those who somehow believe > Christ will save them, but believe that he was only a man are > unsaved, Fred. We can be accomodatin

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread PAProphet
In a message dated 9/2/2002 4:48:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Having doctrinal statements puts people off, I know, it would put me off sword. The fact that I'm Jewish and benefit from sword means a lot, and having doctrinal statements can be offensive to groups, especiall

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.4rc2 BUG

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Freedman
>>Can't comment on your searching problem, though >>-- I'm not familiar with the module why not? The module is called: "Aleppo" and its the Hebrew text... Its available on crosswire, its not a locked or beta module? DF __ Do You Yahoo!? Everyth

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Freedman
Having doctrinal statements puts people off, I know, it would put me off sword. The fact that I'm Jewish and benefit from sword means a lot, and having doctrinal statements can be offensive to groups, especially those doing research, and coming from different backgrounds... If people want to disc

Re: [sword-devel] American Bible Society

2002-09-02 Thread Ed Sylvis
>On Sun, 1 Sep 2002 15:06, Barry Drake wrote: > While on the ABS > website getting a contact e-mail address, I spotted this among their > aims: "Producing materials that avoid endorsing or advocating any > doctrinal positions." I quite like that phrase. Maybe we could adopt it > for Sword? Whi

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there . Sorry! I seem to have started an off topic thread. Remind me NEVER to mention anything about doctrine or denominational bias (or anything other than techie stuff really). I'd love to discuss these things. BUT NOT HERE!!! God bless, Barry -- From Barry Drake (The Revd) min

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Todd Pedlar
At 12:41 PM 9/2/2002, fred smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Dan Bertles wrote: > How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: >  "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the > sin of mankind through His blood." I w

Re: [sword-devel] BoM Bug in module/Beta T

2002-09-02 Thread Joachim Ansorg
You're right. Let's use EnumaElish as an example as I don't have BoM. DisplayLevel=2 displays e.g. all subentries of "Tablet I" together on one page. DisplayLevel=1 would display Tablet1/1, Tablet1/2 etc. each on a an own page. I hope this is correct behaviour. Let me know. Joachim > On Fri, 9

Re: [sword-devel] BoM Bug in module/Beta T

2002-09-02 Thread Chris Little
On Fri, 9 Aug 2002, Joachim Ansorg wrote: > Hi! > > > Barry is right that it just takes a while to load since we have to parse > > the entire table of contents and build tree items for every single verse > > in the book, which is probably quite a few for the BoM. Testing in beta > > V, it works

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Glassey
On 2 Sep 2002 at 10:23, Steve Tang sent forth the message: > The beta-released zh_??.conf files look suspecious to me, when I open them > with a few editors and Chinese browsers I have in hand. The [Text] section > looks fine, but at the end of [Books Abbrevs] section the book names seem > to

Re: [sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread fred smith
On Mon, Sep 02, 2002 at 10:18:55AM -0400, Dan Bertles wrote: > How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: > "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the > sin of mankind through His blood." I would certainly have no problem with tha

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.4rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Steve Tang
> Sorry I'm a little lost here > I can't seem to find "zh_cn.conf" & "zh_tw.conf". What are these? I realised > it is not the Chinese Glory Union Bible Simplified or Traditional > (ChiGUs/ChiGU). These are in locales.d sub-directory. I have some clue on how they are being used by the engine

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Steve Tang
> Yes, the search can be conducted in Chinese, and the results are > displayed in Chinese. That's because the edit control and list are > "hand-drawn", so to speak. But it doesn't work on WIndows 95/98/ME, > only on 2k/XP. Even my own Chinese-English dictionary module doesn't > work for me :-) bec

Re: [sword-devel] Questions ...

2002-09-02 Thread David Trotz
Avihai, Don't feel stupid, someone else  I know (someone who is even famliar with the code) didn't know it existed either, for almost a whole year. He too thought all windows had to be changed at once. :) David - Original Message - From: Avihai.H To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Se

[sword-devel] Doctrinal Statement

2002-09-02 Thread Dan Bertles
How about including a basic doctrinal statement in the Sword Splash screen: "Believing Jesus always was and is God, born of a virgin to take away the sin of mankind through His blood." Anyone who can compile sword could remove the splash screen, but the average person would know the premise o

[sword-devel] Was wrong link to ByzX-dev.zip

2002-09-02 Thread porton
My link to http://porton.narod.ru/binaries/ByzX-dev.zip (the files for programmers about ByzX) was wrong. In this letter is the correct link. The site will be updates in nearest minutes. -- Victor Porton ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Joachim Ansorg
s/1\.5/1\.5\.3/ :) Joachim > 1.5., doesn't support the search of Unicode strings. 1.5.4 has the fix, as > you know. > > Joachim > > > I am using English Windows ME. But viewing ChiGUs module is okay for me. > > If I turn on Chinese Star 2001, I'm able to input in chinese for > > searching. Sear

Re: [sword-devel] American Bible Society

2002-09-02 Thread Daniel Blake
This is the same direction my thoughts were taking me. I have been hearing more lately about "seeker friendly churches" and other examples of how some churches have decided to get people into the "church". The bible clearly shows that God did not make His way "seeker friendly". Jesus didn't tell

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew Modules

2002-09-02 Thread Don A. Elbourne Jr.
You must mean the "Modern Hebrew" module. I do not know anything about that one, other than the fact that the module itself says it came from http://unbound.biola.edu I do not see any information on that site as to the texts origination. Perhaps Chris would know or you could email them directly.

[sword-devel] New help file

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
There are new help files http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Sword.chm or http://www.crosswire.org/sword/ALPHAcckswwlkrfre22034820285912/alpha/Swordch m.zip Please take a look at the sections about the new features. Jerry

Re: [sword-devel] Hebrew Modules

2002-09-02 Thread Avihai.H
Shalom Don, how are you? The links that you gave me referes to the OT translation, and it's fine, but I need the NT, this is where the fixing take place :o) Avihai.H From: "Don A. Elbourne Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PR

Re: [sword-devel] Questions ...

2002-09-02 Thread Avihai.H
Shalom David, how are you?     Thanks for the putting some light on the subject.   I feel stupid for not checking it out!       :o) Avihai.H - Original Message - From: David Trotz To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
I have been playing with this and it depends on the font size of the preview text to the right. I made two entries that only contained "test test test". It seems to need two verses to create the problem. I then did a search for "test test test". The verses were listed with no problems at first

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Joachim Ansorg
1.5., doesn't support the search of Unicode strings. 1.5.4 has the fix, as you know. Joachim > I am using English Windows ME. But viewing ChiGUs module is okay for me. If > I turn on Chinese Star 2001, I'm able to input in chinese for searching. > Search is successful for ver 1.5.4rc2 but not

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2 bug

2002-09-02 Thread Jerry Hastings
At 07:27 AM 9/2/2002 +0100, Barry Drake wrote: >Could this be the same problem I reported as "Problem: Try searching for >the word 'leader' in the TEV (NT only preferred). On my setup, this throws >the whole thing into confusion, and the hits show in a most odd flickery >way! (Can't describe it

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.5.4rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Sing Yong Tan
Sorry I'm a little lost here I can't seem to find "zh_cn.conf" & "zh_tw.conf". What are these? I realised it is not the Chinese Glory Union Bible Simplified or Traditional (ChiGUs/ChiGU). I have tried ChiGUs and ChiGU and they look okay. But the text in ChiGU seems a little far apart in som

[sword-devel] RC2a bug!

2002-09-02 Thread Richard Guay
Hi, Sorry to be the one to find one, but the search dialogue cuts off the text for the "Custum Range" at the "R" in "Range". I am running on Windows 98 for Thai. Richard Guay

Re: [sword-devel] BibleCS 1.4.5rc2

2002-09-02 Thread Sing Yong Tan
I am using English Windows ME. But viewing ChiGUs module is okay for me. If I turn on Chinese Star 2001, I'm able to input in chinese for searching. Search is successful for ver 1.5.4rc2 but not for ver 1.5.3. Maybe I should try the traditional chinese module... Let you know soon... >From: Chri