Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Augustine Leudar
.edu > > > https://mail.music.vt.edu/mailman/listinfo/sursound - unsubscribe > here, > > > edit account or options, view archives and so on. > > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Augustine Leudar > > Artistic Director Magik Door LTD > > Comp

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Augustine Leudar
so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s >> the >> > > placebo effect that makes these things work? >> > > >> > > Doug Murray >> > > ___ >> > > Sursound mailing list

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
s probable > >> that > >> any > >> > > sound bar, whether “Atmos” or not, will be an upgrade for whomever > >> buys > >> it, > >> > > so happy customers, even if the hype is not lived up to. Maybe it’s > >> the > >>

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Richard Dobson
On 28/05/2019 08:49, Augustine Leudar wrote: wow : .. It would be great if someone could just invent bluetooth quad (or more) then you could happily just deposit four cable free bluetooth speakers around the room and be done with all this nonsense. ... Slightly a propos to this: in his 2

Re: [Sursound] Sursound Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Dave Hunt
Hi, Well, it describes vaguely how these things are supposed to work, leaving out any details of "array beam forming", the amount of DSP required to do it properly with an amplifier per speaker-driver, and a considerable number of speaker-drivers. Then there's the added complication of it poss

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Bo-Erik Sandholm
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Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Augustine Leudar
gt; > succumbing to marketing hype when I say that Dolby Atmos in a > cinema > > >> > > setting, with its full range surrounds and speakers in what were > > gaps > > >> near > > >> > > the scr

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Augustine Leudar
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Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
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Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread David Pickett
At 14:19 28-05-19, you wrote: Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64Last year I hacked a "low latency" (~100ms) stereo RTP streaming software between OSX and a Raspberry Pi. A possible solution would be, as Bo Erik suggested, to stream 4-channel on a musticast wifi network, then decode it on 4 RPIs (

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
Marc, This is very interesting to me. Did you do this using Wi-Fi or some other wireless scheme? What I've been seeking is a low-cost, low-latency wireless solution for a headset. We have good, full-bandwidth solutions for wireless microphones. Also for wireless performance monitors. Nothing

[Sursound] wifi audio (was Re: Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.)

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le 28/05/2019 à 10:48, mgraves mstvp.com a écrit : Marc, This is very interesting to me. Did you do this using Wi-Fi or some other wireless scheme? What I've been seeking is a low-cost, low-latency wireless solution for a headset. We have good, full-bandwidth solutions for wireless micropho

Re: [Sursound] Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.

2019-05-28 Thread David Pickett
At 16:48 28-05-19, you wrote: We have good, full-bandwidth solutions for wireless microphones. Also for wireless performance monitors. Nothing that combines these functions. Yes, I know about such things, but standard wireless mics dont use the AKG C12 capsules that I build into my mics, dont

Re: [Sursound] wifi audio (was Re: Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.)

2019-05-28 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
Marc, I'm well and truly intimate with WebRTC. The trouble with IP-based connectivity is then latency involved with packetization. DECT and BT links don't suffer this, but they tend to be bandwidth constrained (especially microphone freq response.) It's surprising that there are very few head

Re: [Sursound] wifi audio (was Re: Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.)

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le 28/05/2019 à 13:20, mgraves mstvp.com a écrit : Marc, I'm well and truly intimate with WebRTC. The trouble with IP-based connectivity is then latency involved with packetization. Then my hack would not be useful if you need reatime connectivity. For a good quality 256Kps Opus stream (24b

Re: [Sursound] wifi audio (was Re: Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.)

2019-05-28 Thread mgraves mstvp . com
Marc, Some time ago I agreed to give a trade show presentation about Polycom's HDVoice codecs (Siren 7, Siren 14) being released under a license making it possible to use them with the asterisk open source telephone software. In the way of dog-fooding the presentation, I tried to deliver it v

Re: [Sursound] wifi audio (was Re: Deconstructing soundbar marketing B.S.)

2019-05-28 Thread Marc Lavallée
Le 28/05/2019 à 13:48, mgraves mstvp.com a écrit : Marc, From soundbars to wireless audio, there's still a link; how to build an array of wireless loudspeakers (to avoid the weird compromise of soundbars). Mission: impossible? Some time ago I agreed to give a trade show presentation abo