Re: [SAtalk] Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!

2003-12-13 Thread Peter Kiem
Upgraded to SA 2.61, deleted the bayes_* files and relearnt from my spam and ham collections. sa-learn --dump now reports 1513 spams and 195 hams so looks like it is happy again. Thanks Theo :) -- Regards, +-+-+ | Peter Kiem

[SAtalk] remove

2003-12-13 Thread Duane Wells
remove

[SAtalk] version 2.6.x and whitelist_from/blacklist_from directives

2003-12-13 Thread Jeremy Utley
Greetings to everyone on the list! I recently installed SpamAssassin 2.60 onto my new server, however, it seems it's ignoring the whitelist_from and blacklist_from directives in /etc/mail/local.cf. Another server we have, running SA 2.55, has these directives working just fine. I tried upgrading

Re: [SAtalk] SA 2.61 and this annoying spammer?

2003-12-13 Thread JRiley
> Anybody who's installed A 2.61 > > Can you tell me what the score for the following email was > > From: Advance in Pay <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Need cash in the bank ASAP? > Date: December 12, 2003 4:28:24 PM CST > To: Robert David Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: <[EMAIL PRO

[SAtalk] chickenpox.cf

2003-12-13 Thread Bill Landry
Jennifer, I have been testing your chickenpox.cf rules, and I noticed that there is plenty of other punctuation marks besides the period "." that are also being used between the letters of works to obfuscate them. So I modified you rules a bit from, for example: /\s[a-zA-Z]{9}\.[a-zA-Z]{1}[ ,'\?!

Re: [SAtalk] spamc/spamd??

2003-12-13 Thread Carl R. Friend
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Raquel Rice wrote: > I've tried several times to run spamc from a site-wide procmailrc. > It just hangs. This is what I have in the /etc/procmailrc: > > :0fw > * < 256000 > | spamc > > and I've made certain to have started spamd. You don't say how

[SAtalk] spamc / vpopmail problem

2003-12-13 Thread marekm
Hi. I've tried to run Spamassassin (spamc/spamd) with vpopmail on a per-user basis by adding the following line to the .qmail- file: | spamc | /var/vmail/bin/vdelivermail '' bounce-no-mailbox but unfortunately qmail refused to deliver any messages complaining in the log: qmail: 1071234685

[SAtalk] Preserving Mail Format

2003-12-13 Thread Frank M. Cook
Sorry if this has been discussed over and over again, but I've just started to run SA and I'm not happy with the way it's mangling the tagged mail.  I want it to change the subject but leave the body of the message alone.  I've changed report_safe from 1 to 0 and html mail is still being tra

[SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread J. S. Greenfield
On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages (i.e., without the spam assassin filters already added) when training manua

Re: [SAtalk] sa-learn question (was: Eeek! Bayes expired itself out of existance!)

2003-12-13 Thread Martin Radford
At Sat Dec 13 14:02:53 2003, J. S. Greenfield wrote: > > On a related note...I presume that when the bayesian classification runs > during normal operation, SA headers have not yet been added to the messages. > > Does that imply one needs to be careful to feed non-filtered messages > (i.e., wit

Re: [SAtalk] Preserving Mail Format

2003-12-13 Thread Martin Radford
At Sat Dec 13 13:56:47 2003, Frank M. Cook wrote: > > Sorry if this has been discussed over and over again, but I've just = > started to run SA and I'm not happy with the way it's mangling the = > tagged mail. I want it to change the subject but leave the body of the = > message alone. I've chan

RE: [SAtalk] chickenpox.cf

2003-12-13 Thread jennifer
Hi Bill > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:spamassassin- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Landry > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 7:04 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] chickenpox.cf > > Jennifer, I have been testing your chickenpox.cf rules, and I

Re: [SAtalk] Re: SA 2.61 and this annoying spammer?

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Attached is an example. It would appear that I was wrong about double reply-to's. that's just something that OSX's Mail.app is doing. >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Dec 12 16:28:13 2003 Received: (qmail 24655 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2003 22:28:12 - Received: from d.dailye-mail.com (216.10

[SAtalk] Re: SA 2.61 and this annoying spammer?

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Robert Nicholson wrote: > > Attached is an example. > > It would appear that I was wrong about double reply-to's. that's just > something that OSX's Mail.app is doing. This is what I got before teaching it to Bayes: debug: is spam? score=5.621 required=5 tests=BAYES_50,DCC_CHECK,MISSING_OUTLOOK

Re: [SAtalk] Preserving Mail Format

2003-12-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 08:56 AM 12/13/03 -0500, Frank M. Cook wrote: Sorry if this has been discussed over and over again, but I've just started to run SA and I'm not happy with the way it's mangling the tagged mail. I want it to change the subject but leave the body of the message alone. I've changed report_saf

[SAtalk] Uninstalling 2.60 and SITEARCHEXP

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
So I wanted uninstall 2.60 which is installed in a version specific directory on my setup. bash$ ls SpamAssassin SpamAssassin.pm bash$ pwd /home/robert/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail However when I do this with the Makefile used to build it I get bash$ make uninstall no packlist file found:

[SAtalk] Is SpamAssassin a version specific module?

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Hi, Is this the correct place for SA to put installed when installed locally and not system wide? /home/robert/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/Mail ie. does it belong in a 5.8.0 specific directory? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux

Re: [SAtalk] Re: DCC incidence

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Simon Byrnand wrote: > Just a bit of a "me too" post, I checked my last two days email including > Ham and Spam and checked the hitrate of DCC and RAZOR2 and here were the > results: > > Ham: 0 DCC hits, 1 RAZOR2 hit out of 203 Ham messages. > Spam: 174 DCC hits, 57 RAZOR2 hits out of 242 Spam mes

Re: [SAtalk] SA report on an email ?

2003-12-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:35 PM 12/12/2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How can I see a spamassassin report of an email ? I'd like to do something like pipe the email through a command. pipe it through spamassassin -t Note: -t mode FORCES sa to generate a report, and it WILL contain text declaring it to be spam, even

Re: [SAtalk] Re: SA 2.61 and this annoying spammer?

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Robert Nicholson wrote: > > I noticed the scores you reported were with 2.60. > > I don't understand why your scores as so much higher than mine. > > Do you have any custom rule modifications? > > I will take the message below and run it thru 2.61 now. > > Why do you get more hits? Your debug

Re: [SAtalk] Re: DCC incidence

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Robert Nicholson wrote: > > Is the mail or checksum sent to a DCC server? Checksum. > Could you try this one. It's also low scoring in 2.61 Here's the output I got: Received: from localhost [127.0.0.1] by coll.pair.com with SpamAssassin (2.60 1.212-2003-09-23-exp); Sat, 13 Dec

[SAtalk] Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Alexander Litvinov
Today I have dumped my bayes db and calculate some statistics. 742753 - total number of words in it 515654 - total number of words which have been seen only once 80485 - ... twice 35325 - ... 3 times This statistics shows that most of the db us not used, just eating my hard drive (44 MB to

[SAtalk] YO DEVELOPER! SA Rule COUNTER?

2003-12-13 Thread Charles Gregory
Hi! I suggested this once before, and did not see any response. Many rules that I see suggested on this list all have the characteristic of being a good test against e-mail that contain a large number of occurences (a high 'count') of a particular 'trick' or 'obfuscation'. BUT these rules have to

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Matthew . van . Eerde
I would guess this is normal. Think of things like Message-Id's, vs. common words like "the" which will appear very many times. > -Original Message- > From: Alexander Litvinov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 10:10 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk

[SAtalk] Re: Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Alexander Litvinov wrote: > > Today I have dumped my bayes db and calculate some statistics. > > 742753 - total number of words in it > 515654 - total number of words which have been seen only once > 80485 - ... twice > 35325 - ... 3 times > > This statistics shows that most of the db us n

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:45 PM 12/13/2003, Bryan Hoover wrote: > 742753 - total number of words in it > 515654 - total number of words which have been seen only once > 80485 - ... twice > 35325 - ... 3 times > > This statistics shows that most of the db us not used, just eating my hard drive (44 MB total size)

[SAtalk] Re: Bayes database stats

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Matt Kettler wrote: > Well, 5mb * (743/100) = 37.15mb... that's pretty close to 44mb at an > estimate. Doesn't seem large at all given the specs.. Heh.. True that. My brain is *not* a arithmatic calculator :). Plus, Alexander may have been just counting up the total Bayes directory size, which

[SAtalk] Re: YO DEVELOPER! SA Rule COUNTER?

2003-12-13 Thread Bryan Hoover
Charles Gregory wrote: > > Hi! > > I suggested this once before, and did not see any response. > Many rules that I see suggested on this list all have the characteristic > of being a good test against e-mail that contain a large number of > occurences (a high 'count') of a particular 'trick' or '

[SAtalk] Can somebody sending me something that DCC catches?

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
Is there anyway I can arrange for a message that DCC would catch to be sent to me? If you can do that just send it over I want to see if DCC is working correctly. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tutorials. Become an expert i

Re: [SAtalk] spamc / vpopmail problem

2003-12-13 Thread Terry Milnes
You could use procmail to call spamc, eg. .qmail-user files look like this: | preline procmail -t -p ./the_users_name_here/Maildir/procmailrc and the user's procmailrc: LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail VERBOSE=ON ### Spam Assassin :0fw * < 256000 | /usr/bin/spamc -u the_users_name_here -f :0 * ./th

Re: [WL] [SAtalk] Re: YO DEVELOPER! SA Rule COUNTER?

2003-12-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Bryan Hoover wrote: > > But if we were able to check the COUNT of how many times a particular > > rule was matched, we could easily distinguish runaway use of obfuscation. > It is an interesting idea. It is analysis of the analysis, or meta > analysis. Not really. It is cou

RE: [WL] [SAtalk] Re: YO DEVELOPER! SA Rule COUNTER?

2003-12-13 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: Charles Gregory > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:56 PM [...] > > On Sat, 13 Dec 2003, Bryan Hoover wrote: > > > But if we were able to check the COUNT of how many times a particular > > > rule was matched, we could easily distinguish runaway use of > o

[SAtalk] Why isn't this being learnt?

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
So I'm executing my $status = $spamtest->learn ($mail); and the status in the debugger shows all the right things suggesting it's been learnt however the nham count in sa-learn --dump isn't changed. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: I

Re: [SAtalk] Virginia Busts Spammers

2003-12-13 Thread Gorm Jensen
- Original Message - From: "Greg Cirino - Cirelle Enterprises" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:33 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Virginia Busts Spammers > No noticeable decrease in spam here... > > did they get the right guys? > > g Usually, 2-3

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Bayes Corpus Project

2003-12-13 Thread Nix
On 12 Dec 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] moaned: > On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:10:29 -0500, Adam Denenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > posted to spamassassin-talk: > > What i want to start is a Bayes Corpus Project. I would like to be > > able to allow people to submit confirmed ham and/or spam to a large > > b

Re: [SAtalk] Mysterious SA tags in SPAM message?

2003-12-13 Thread Nix
On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, Matthew van Eerde said: >> >I'm just curious. I've NEVER seen Yahoo! tagged bulk email >> with SA tags. >> >> Odds are the open relay that the spammers sent the mail >> through was running SA. >> >> Yes, you'd think anyone using SA would check for open relay, >> but it do

RE: [SAtalk] Mysterious SA tags in SPAM message?

2003-12-13 Thread Gary Funck
Teergruber? OK, I had to ask Google about this term of art: http://www.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/usenet/teergrube.en.html > From: Nix > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 2:49 PM [...] > > It makes a lot more sense to teergrube the buggers and /dev/null the > results, I'd say. > > (Anyone got a

[SAtalk] Mail::SpamAssassin::learn

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
The way this interface is defined $status = $f->learn ($mail, $id, $isspam, $forget) suggests that both $isspam and $forget are significant however it will only ever do one or the other not both. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linu

Re: [SAtalk] Mail::SpamAssassin::learn

2003-12-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:53 PM 12/13/2003, Robert Nicholson wrote: $status = $f->learn ($mail, $id, $isspam, $forget) suggests that both $isspam and $forget are significant however it will only ever do one or the other not both. Well, forget inherently means you want to remove an entry instead of learn.. at that po

Re: [SAtalk] SA for IM?

2003-12-13 Thread alan premselaar
On 12/13/03 7:05 AM, "Vivek Khera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B (B>> "JV" == Jonathan Vanasco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: (B> (B> JV> AOL IM (B> (B> JV> Maybe its an ichat only thing -- because everyone i know running iChat (B> JV> gets 10+ AOL IM spams a day. I'm averaging 15. (B>

RE: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin with Sendmail and spamass-milter (probl em finally solved)

2003-12-13 Thread Brian Sneddon
After adding a bit of debugging information to Received.pm I was able to track down the problem I was having with SpamAssassin and the -notfirsthop rules. The following line is the code in spamass-milter that send the pseudo header to Spamassassin: assassin->output((string)"Received: from "+macro_