Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-13 Thread Craig R Hughes
Actually, using -a with -S should increase the false _negative_ rate, not the false positive rate, since it will lower the AWL score for a spammy sender to around 5. C Duncan Findlay wrote: DF> On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:34:54PM +0200, Michael Stauber wrote: DF> > Hi Craig, DF> > DF> > > The -S

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, Running masscheck I got the following errors: Premature end of base64 data at /home/java/on/CVS/spamassassin/masses/../lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.pm line 1875, line 15606. Premature end of base64 data at /home/java/on/CVS/spamassassin/masses/../lib/Mail/SpamAssassin/PerMsgStatus.

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 02:34:54PM +0200, Michael Stauber wrote: > Hi Craig, > > > The -S flag to spamd should also help greatly in constrained hardware > > situations. > > Yes, I know. It sure is a great way to cut back the load, but the scoring gets > a little less effective and I noticed a f

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 10 June 2002 07:42 am, Vivek Khera wrote: > > "MC" == Matthew Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > MC> automatically compile Perl down to machine instructions for improved > MC> performance. So it probably wouldn't be worth it to re-write SA in C. > I doubt that will help anyway.

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Craig R. Hughes said: > Sean Rima wrote: > > SR> I thought it would not affect me too much but even with a -m 2 and > SR> a -s 61440 I reach a load average of over 15 which cripples my > SR> poor old mail box :) > > Hmm, my unde

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Craig R. Hughes spake thusly: > The -S flag to spamd should also help greatly in constrained hardware > situations. > Never thought of that, thanks Craig. Sean - -- Sean Rimahttp://www.tcob1.n

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Jeremy Zawodny uttered the following: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:33:13AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: >> >> > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: >> >> > >> >> > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think.

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Vivek Khera
> "MC" == Matthew Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: MC> automatically compile Perl down to machine instructions for improved MC> performance. So it probably wouldn't be worth it to re-write SA in C. I doubt that will help anyway. The majority of the time spent in SA is in the pattern matc

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Michael Stauber
Hi Craig, > The -S flag to spamd should also help greatly in constrained hardware > situations. Yes, I know. It sure is a great way to cut back the load, but the scoring gets a little less effective and I noticed a few more false positives. Can't be avoided the way -S works, sure. So I usually

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-10 Thread Matt Sergeant
Matthew Cline wrote: > On Sunday 09 June 2002 03:06 pm, Sean Rima wrote: > > >>My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. > > > When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) compiler, which will > automatically compile Perl down to machine instructions for improv

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Craig R Hughes
Sean Rima wrote: SR> I thought it would not affect me too much but even with a -m 2 and a -s SR> 61440 I reach a load average of over 15 which cripples my poor old mail SR> box :) Hmm, my understanding of "load" is "number of processes in the WAIT queue", which with -m 2 can only be 3 for SA --

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Craig R Hughes
The -S flag to spamd should also help greatly in constrained hardware situations. C Michael Stauber wrote: MS> Hi Sean, MS> MS> > My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. MS> MS> Yes, it sure can be. I've set up SA for a couple of ISPs on their Cobalt RaQ MS> servers. Those

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:33:13AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > >> > > >> > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think. Perl 6 probably > >> > won't be production ready for a few years. > >> > > >> > >> Darn, off to the forsale N

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Matthew Cline
On Sunday 09 June 2002 03:53 pm, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > The real problem you have is not so much spamd's performance, but the > fact that it sits idle 99% of the time, then gets slammed with 1K > messages in a matter of seconds. Even with my Duron 750 and not much > else happening, the b

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Jeremy Zawodny yowled: > On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: >> > >> > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think. Perl 6 probably >> > won't be production ready for a few years. >> > >> >> Darn, off t

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:19:20AM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > > > > It's going to be a rather long wait, I think. Perl 6 probably won't > > be production ready for a few years. > > > > Darn, off to the forsale NG's to price a new P4 methinks :) If you could use an old Celeron 300A board and CP

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Jeremy Zawodny uttered the following: >> >> My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. >> > >> > When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) compiler, >> > which will automatically compile Perl dow

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeremy Zawodny
On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 11:45:33PM +0100, Sean Rima wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Matthew Cline stipulated: > > >> My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. > > > > When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) co

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Matthew Cline stipulated: >> My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. > > When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) compiler, > which will automatically compile Perl down to machine instruction

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Matthew Cline
On Sunday 09 June 2002 03:06 pm, Sean Rima wrote: > My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. When Perl 6 comes out, it will have a Just In Time (JIT) compiler, which will automatically compile Perl down to machine instructions for improved performance. So it probably woul

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Michael Stauber stipulated: >> My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. > > Yes, it sure can be. I've set up SA for a couple of ISPs on their > Cobalt RaQ servers. Those RaQs are pretty outdated boxes (AMD K

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Michael Stauber
Hi Sean, > My ISP is also looking at SA but performance maybe a problem. Yes, it sure can be. I've set up SA for a couple of ISPs on their Cobalt RaQ servers. Those RaQs are pretty outdated boxes (AMD K6/2 with 300-450 MHz) and performance wise they don't have much to offer. Even with SPAMd/

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Sean Rima
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002, Jeroen Scheerder told this: >>Is there any word on the C version of SA as I am getting him by >>performance issuses. > > A C version of the daemon, you mean? Or are you running "spamassassin > -P"? > > Using the C client (spamc)

Re: [SAtalk] C version

2002-06-09 Thread Jeroen Scheerder
Sean Rima (9/6/02 22:05 +0100) [[SAtalk] C version]: >Is there any word on the C version of SA as I am getting him by >performance issuses. A C version of the daemon, you mean? Or are you running "spamassassin -P"? Using the C client (spamc) against a local spamd (perl), most messages (about 75