Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:02:54PM -0700, Steve Thomas wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:26:10PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun is rumored to have said: > > > > and watching the fur fly. Linksys is the current target; supposedly they > > have Linux cores in some of their products. But, guess what, it mi

Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Ryan Bingham
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Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Stuart Gall
- Original Message - From: "Greg A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:59 PM Subject: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU > The way I read the license was that you can not sell

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Steve Thomas
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 02:26:10PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun is rumored to have said: > > and watching the fur fly. Linksys is the current target; supposedly they > have Linux cores in some of their products. But, guess what, it might be I thought that this has been common knowledge for years. I'd h

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Shayne Lebrun
> To: Greg A > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU > > > Greg A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > How about this one? > > > > http://www.mailshield.com/products/mailshield/server/whats_new.html > > > > Ma

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Greg A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How about this one? > > http://www.mailshield.com/products/mailshield/server/whats_new.html > > Mailshield now incorporates SpamAssassin and charges heaps of money > for their product. > > Anyone know if that is legal? Charging heaps of money is allowed.

Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Mark Jenks
And was it trademarked for the current version that we run, or something that deersoft was working on? Who was first? -Mark Peter Campion-Bye wrote: The way some on the list have responded would suppose that anyone can copy SpamAssassin, modify it or integrate it, change the name of it and the

Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:51 PM 6/12/2003 +0100, Peter Campion-Bye wrote: > http://www.mailshield.com/products/mailshield/server/whats_new.html At the bottom of the page in the above link is the line: Note: SpamAssassin is a trademark of Deersoft, Inc Putting www.deersoft.com into a browser takes you to the McAfee

Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Peter Campion-Bye
> > The way some on the list have responded would suppose that anyone can copy > SpamAssassin, modify it or integrate it, change the name of it and then > resell it for thousands. (ie, Mailshield). This does not make sense to me. > (Here is the link again.) > > http://www.mailshield.com/products/ma

Re: SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 08:59:36AM -0700, Greg A wrote: > The way I read the license was that you can not sell SA software. > You can only charge for duplication fees, installation or > maintenance but not for the software or customized versions derived > from it. I could be wrong, I am not a law

SA in Mailshield by Lyris / (was) Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Greg A
The way I read the license was that you can not sell SA software. You can only charge for duplication fees, installation or maintenance but not for the software or customized versions derived from it. I could be wrong, I am not a lawyer...   The way some on the list have responded would suppose th

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-12 Thread Vivek Khera
> "JS" == Justin Shore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: JS> I don't have any information about this either, only a thought. If I JS> contributed code to an open source project like SA, I'm contributing it JS> under the conditions of whatever licensing scheme(s) the project already JS> utilizes. B

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:08 PM 6/11/2003 -0500, Justin Shore wrote: I don't have any information about this either, only a thought. If I contributed code to an open source project like SA, I'm contributing it under the conditions of whatever licensing scheme(s) the project already utilizes. Yes, this is the case fo

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 05:08:21PM -0500, Justin Shore wrote: > I don't have any information about this either, only a thought. If I > contributed code to an open source project like SA, I'm contributing it > under the conditions of whatever licensing scheme(s) the project already > utilizes. Bec

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Justin Shore
On Wed, 11 Jun 2003, Duncan Findlay wrote: > On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:27:35PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun wrote: > > Hai; note also that for all the random people on the street know, said > > company went directly to the SA copyright holder, and got a license all > > their own, separate from the GPL/AL

Re: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 02:27:35PM -0400, Shayne Lebrun wrote: > Hai; note also that for all the random people on the street know, said > company went directly to the SA copyright holder, and got a license all > their own, separate from the GPL/AL/NPL/BSD License/Whatever. No single entity owns th

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Shayne Lebrun
D] Behalf Of Matt > Kettler > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:10 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU > > > At 01:23 PM 6/11/2003 -0400, Shayne Lebrun wrote: > >Of course it's legal. > > > >If they've ma

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:23 PM 6/11/2003 -0400, Shayne Lebrun wrote: Of course it's legal. If they've made any changes to SA, they're obligated to release them to anybody who buys the product (NOT necessarily to have them publically available on a web/FTP site; that's just usually the route people take.) If they'

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Shayne Lebrun
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:19 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU How about this one?   http://www.mailshield.com/products/mailshield/server/whats_new.html   Mailshield now incorporates SpamAssassin and charges heaps of money for the

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Greg A
How about this one?   http://www.mailshield.com/products/mailshield/server/whats_new.html   Mailshield now incorporates SpamAssassin and charges heaps of money for their product.   Anyone know if that is legal?       "Bingham, Ryan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Open-source strikes back:http://www.ewe

RE: [SAtalk] OT: SCO may have violated GNU

2003-06-11 Thread Bingham, Ryan
Open-source strikes back: http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,3959,1123172,00.asp Let's hope there's some merit to this. Ryan -Original Message- From: Kristian Koehntopp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] LDAP Storage