[SAtalk] Auto Whitelist strangeness

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Cameron
I just got a spam which scored 13.80 but had a -4.8 point AWL adjustment. I don't understand how it could have been whitelisted because it is obviously porn spam. It even rates a BAYES_70. How is it possible that it was whitelisted? I can post the message source if it is appropriate to do so. -

Re: [SAtalk] Reject based on SA score

2003-07-07 Thread Tony Earnshaw
Mike Vanecek wrote: Running RH 9, SA 2.55 w/spamc/d, Postfix, procmail, ... This would be "old fashioned" Postfix. I run 2.0.12, normally - but am looking at the current snapshot. Q1. Does a configuration exist (mailscanner, or such utilities) that would allow one to do a standard reject based

Re: [SAtalk] Mail::SpamAssassin memory requirements?

2003-07-07 Thread Tony Earnshaw
SpamAssassin wrote: Anyone have an idea of the Mail::SpamAssassin memory requirements? It isn't Mail::SpamAssassin that consumes memory - these are simply Perl libraries. As you've found out, it's the calling program, usually run as a daemon. I've no experience with IMAPAssassin, but spamd run

[SAtalk] Bayesian filter question

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Cameron
Howdy all - Currently we use procmail recipes to put tagged spam into an IMAP spam folder for each user. We also have a spam-to-learn folder for each user to put false negatives in. We run 'sa-learn --spam --mbox' against the spam and spam-to-learn folders for each user, and 'sa-learn --ham --mb

Re: [SAtalk] How to do? Linux/Spam Assasin running as a gateway spamfilter f or another mail server.

2003-07-07 Thread tnelson
We accomplish the internal relay a bit differently, but works very nicely. Instead of creating user accounts on the sendmail relay for every user, we create aliases.. for example, I have tnelson: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tony.nelson: [EMAIL PROTECTED] tony_nelson: [EMAIL PROTECTED] internal.starpoint.

Re: [SAtalk] How to do? Linux/Spam Assasin running as a gateway spam filter f or another mail server.

2003-07-07 Thread Thomas Cameron
If you are using Red Hat or an RPM based distro, I have posted source RPMs for SpamAssassin and spamass-milter along with a sample sendmail.mc file at ftp://mail.camerontech.com/pub/spam. I use these tools on several relay-only servers in front of Exchange and Notes servers. The customers love it

Re: [SAtalk] How to do? Linux/Spam Assasin running as a gateway spam filter f or another mail server.

2003-07-07 Thread Alain Fauconnet
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:42:33AM +0930, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've got spam assassin working like a dream on our small sendmail box. > works like a bought one.what i want to do is setup a gateway arrangment > for an Exchange Server (everyone shudders, i know). > > like so: > > Interne

Re: [SAtalk] How to do? Linux/Spam Assasin running as a gateway spam filter f or another mail server.

2003-07-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 11:42:33AM +0930, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Internet -> Linux Sendmail with SpamAssasin -> Exchange Server > > has anybody attempted such a thing? i've been searching google for quite a > while and not found any howtos...on the sendmail box i'm attempting: yeah,

[SAtalk] How to do? Linux/Spam Assasin running as a gateway spam filter for another mail server.

2003-07-07 Thread mwestern
Hi All, I've got spam assassin working like a dream on our small sendmail box. works like a bought one.what i want to do is setup a gateway arrangment for an Exchange Server (everyone shudders, i know). like so: Internet -> Linux Sendmail with SpamAssasin -> Exchange Server has anybody

Re: [SAtalk] Hoping that whom ever runs SA Site will get this

2003-07-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:54 AM 7/7/03 -0700, Ben Johansen wrote: if I go into account options https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/spamassassin-talk and give it my email address and click "Email My Password to Me" I never receive it. At first I thought it may be blocked by my mail server but checked the logs a

Re: [SAtalk] Re: FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-07 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, But the hardware to run the software is not free- and handling really large volumes of email takes *big* hardware. Think "cluster of 4-way Xeon-2GHz/16Gmem". Or whatever. I've been pushing ~1.5GB+ (~30K+ messages) inbound and "outbound relay" mail per week through a PII/400 (recently upgrade

Re: [SAtalk] Reject based on SA score

2003-07-07 Thread alan premselaar
On 7/8/03 8:11 AM, "Mike Vanecek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B (B> Running RH 9, SA 2.55 w/spamc/d, Postfix, procmail, ... (B> (B> Q1. (B> Does a configuration exist (mailscanner, or such utilities) that would allow (B> one to do a standard reject based on the hit score? Based on my existin

Re: [SAtalk] Reject based on SA score

2003-07-07 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Mike,. MV> Q1. MV> Does a configuration exist (mailscanner, or such utilities) that would allow MV> one to do a standard reject based on the hit score? Based on my existing MV> setup, by the time the message goes through SA via spamc, it is already out of MV> postfix. I assume that means t

[SAtalk] Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor ?

2003-07-07 Thread Simon Byrnand
Hi People, I wonder if anyone has any stats or anecdotal evidence on the relative effectiveness of Razor2, DCC, and Pyzor ? At the moment I just use Razor2, (and RBL and Bayes) and I'm interested to know whether also running DCC and/or Pyzor at the same time might be beneficial...(the answer i

[SAtalk] Mail::SpamAssassin memory requirements?

2003-07-07 Thread SpamAssassin
Anyone have an idea of the Mail::SpamAssassin memory requirements? I realize it will vary depending on configuration / options / rules / ... in use. (SpamAssassin 2.55 on a per user install through IMAPAssassin. {perl 5.008})) Current config # ok_languagesen ok_locales en skip_rbl_ch

Re: [SAtalk] Re: FILTER THIS VIRUS ALREADY!!!

2003-07-07 Thread Kris Deugau
Bob Sully wrote: > It looks like this thread is dying off but I've just gotten through > reviewing two days' worth of messages. I have to admit that I > agree with Abigail on the premise of the thread. If I can run > clam-antivirus and mime-defang on my mail servers (including one on > which I ru

[SAtalk] BASE64_ENC_TEXT messages of course are UPPERCASE_25_50

2003-07-07 Thread Dan Jacobson
UPPERCASE_25_50 message body is 25-50% uppercase why of course, it is BASE64_ENC_TEXT RAW: Message text disguised using base-64 encoding --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites including Data Reports, E-commerce, Porta

Re: [SAtalk] Two new techniques or old hat?

2003-07-07 Thread Kris Deugau
Vivek Khera wrote: > No, this is *never* OK if the MX records exist. The standards define > that if they exist, they must be honored. If they don't exist, then > one must use the A record, as was the way before MX records were > invented. Which, of course, spammers will ignore- if there's an A a

[SAtalk] Reject based on SA score

2003-07-07 Thread Mike Vanecek
Running RH 9, SA 2.55 w/spamc/d, Postfix, procmail, ... Q1. Does a configuration exist (mailscanner, or such utilities) that would allow one to do a standard reject based on the hit score? Based on my existing setup, by the time the message goes through SA via spamc, it is already out of postfix

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Cirino
| had 2 FPs that were obvious as to why. (Still tweaking catching this base64 | junk/) Isn't base64 what exchange/outlook uses in valid email? G - Original Message - From: "Chris Santerre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Spam Assassin'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday,

[SAtalk] Re: Hormel sues

2003-07-07 Thread Chris Barnes
Liudvikas Bukys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A55892-2003Jul1.html > http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/businesstechnology/135144116_spamhormel02.html > http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/03/07/02/1453254.shtml?tid=111&tid=126 > I think Hormel is in for an

[SAtalk] SAproxy v1.2.0 + Norton Antivirus 2002 + Outlook 2000

2003-07-07 Thread Ashley Collins
I need help.I finally got fed up with the ever increasing mountain of spam hitting myPOP3 account that I had to do something about it. I came across SAproxy,which is a POP3 proxy-based spam filter wriiten in Perl which internallyruns Spam Assassin. I tried it at work and it seems to work wo

RE: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Spam Assassin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:55 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their > emails? > > > On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 09:51:07PM +0200, Brian Ipsen wrote: > > Hi, >

Re: [SAtalk] Bayesian filtering question #2

2003-07-07 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 04:03:48PM -0400, Greg Cirino wrote: > My question: Is this functionality going to be part > of the 2.60 release? nope. maybe 2.70. it's exceptionally non-trivial to implement, although I think we have some patches in bugzilla at the moment. -- Randomly Generated Taglin

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes Error

2003-07-07 Thread mikea
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 02:50:46PM -0500, Richard Humphrey wrote: > I posted this a week or so ago and didnt get much in the way of a > response. Figured I would try again. > I enabled bayes in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and when I run > spamassassin -D --lint as any user, I get the following

[SAtalk] Bayesian filtering question #2

2003-07-07 Thread Greg Cirino
Some time back, I believe just after the 2.50 release I asked if the Bayesian filtering would function for individual users when using a MySql database. (currently we are at 2.55) At that time I was told it was only available site wide in this configuraion. My question: Is this functionality goi

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Justin Mason
Jim Ford writes: >On Sat, Jul 05, 2003 at 04:03:38PM -0700, Abigail Marshall wrote: > >> I think the only way to avoid the problem is to use the >> Bayes, Auto-whitelisting, and RBL features that come with >> SA. > >I'm finding that RBL, DCC and Razor are very powerful features and often >enough o

[SAtalk] Bayes Error

2003-07-07 Thread Richard Humphrey
I posted this a week or so ago and didnt get much in the way of a response. Figured I would try again. I enabled bayes in /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf and when I run spamassassin -D --lint as any user, I get the following error: Cannot open bayes_path /home/richard/.spamassassin/bayes R/O: Inap

Re: [SAtalk] Bayesian filtering question

2003-07-07 Thread mikea
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 11:45:59AM -0700, Matthew Thomas wrote: > Greetings, > > I'm using 2.53 spamassassin (with Mimedefang and sendmail). I've got my > bayes database seeded. When I test spam using "spamassassin -tD < > sample-spam", I get accurate bayes information. But I have yet to see th

[SAtalk] Bayesian filtering question

2003-07-07 Thread Matthew Thomas
Greetings, I'm using 2.53 spamassassin (with Mimedefang and sendmail). I've got my bayes database seeded. When I test spam using "spamassassin -tD < sample-spam", I get accurate bayes information. But I have yet to see the bayes result to show up on a tagged incoming spam. Do I have something

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Trying to compile 2.55

2003-07-07 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: "Dan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: [SAtalk] Re: Trying to compile 2.55 > Mark wrote: > > > I am still using SA 2.44. But after recent reports how much better de > > 2.55 edition with Bayes is, I t

Re: [SAtalk] Local.cf

2003-07-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:11 AM 7/3/2003 +0200, Andrea Riela wrote: Hi folks, I've problem with spamassassin 2.5x and local.cf on OpenBSD 3.3. I would see X-Spam-Report in the headers, but I can't. Report_header 1 doesn't work. Why? How could I see that? report_header is no longer a valid snort option. Read the curre

Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Kelson Vibber
[EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails? David B Funk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm positive that spammers are tuning spam to get past SpamAssassin. ... I've seen several spam crafted to trip the "nice" scores for good MUAs (USER_AGENT_*). This was a big p

[SAtalk] Need help for spamassassin in conjunction with postifx/cyrus/mysql/virutal-hosts/amavis-new

2003-07-07 Thread Christian B.
Hello, I'm configured my RedHat 7.3, as it is described in the web-cyradm-howto. So, if I get a mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] it will be deliverd to cyrus-mailbox user.testdomain.at To achieve this, I have a mysql-table with the alias and the destination. For the postfix I had a virtual-maps, which m

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and IMAP

2003-07-07 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
On Sunday, Jul 6, 2003, at 23:17 US/Mountain, AJ Willmer wrote: Absolutely, Use "--mbox" to point to IMAP folder with sa-learn command Or --dirif it is in maildir format. If you use uw-imap then --mbox is more likely while courier and several others use maildir format Chad AJ Willmer

RE: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Mathew Hendry
Tony Earnshaw wrote: > But my Norwegian daughter, running Win 98 > and getting her mail with Outlook Express, finds that most of her > mail is spam and she has to pay her Norwegian ISP extra for filtering > her mail, or pay for a commercial spam filter. She could always use SAproxy, very easy to

Re[2]: [SAtalk] Spammers using SpamAssassin to tailor their emails?

2003-07-07 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Jack, Saturday, July 5, 2003, 6:50:05 PM, you wrote: >> Train bayes. Everyone has a different bayes db, and they can't >> work around that centrally. JG> The problem I'm seeing is that I'm getting messages with a Bayes of JG> 90% but it still

[SAtalk] Re: Trying to compile 2.55

2003-07-07 Thread Dan Nelson
Mark wrote: I am still using SA 2.44. But after recent reports how much better de 2.55 edition with Bayes is, I thought I'd give it a try. So, I went to my port library, in FreeBSD 4.7R, and did: -- asarian-host: {root} % make "/usr/ports/mail/p5-Mail-SpamAss

[SAtalk] Spam Assassin increases a server load and gets it down

2003-07-07 Thread Alexander Prohorenko
Hello, I've got a problem with SA and hopefully you can help me. I'm running a mail server with the following configuration: CPU: Pentium/P55C (232.67-MHz 586-class CPU) real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29319168 (28632K bytes) FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (B

[SAtalk] strange behaviour

2003-07-07 Thread Angel Todorov
Hi list, i am using mailscanner, exim and spamassassin and sometimes i can see that not all the emails are checked by spamassassin, some of them are, some aren't, i was wondering what could be the reason - can there be something wrong in some exim/mailscanner conf file (some timeout val

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes and IMAP

2003-07-07 Thread Joe Julian
I'm using Cyrus IMAP and it stores the messages as individual files. I just use sa-learn on the messages in the public.spam folder (and I have a public.ham as well). Since I have to use cyrus' deliver to feed the imap folders, I am using mimedefang to call SA and have a global bayes database. Hop

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes and IMAP

2003-07-07 Thread Chad Leigh -- Shire . Net LLC
Hi On Sunday, Jul 6, 2003, at 08:37 US/Mountain, Mark wrote: Hi, I just installed SA 2.55, so I am rather new to Bayes. And I was wondering whether Bayes learning will work on IMAP folders too. Depends on how the server stores the mail on the IMAP server side but in most cases it should be o

Re: [SAtalk] Two new techniques or old hat?

2003-07-07 Thread Vivek Khera
> "KS" == Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: KS> Kris Deugau wrote on Wed, 02 Jul 2003 18:03:05 -0400: >> Worse, a few will send directly to an A record- KS> I think that is okay. If you remove all MX records for a domain No, this is *never* OK if the MX records exist. The standards d

[SAtalk] Consumer Reports on spam

2003-07-07 Thread Balam Willemsen
I'm sure all the developers are already aware of it, but I haven't seen it mentioned on the list. Congratulations are in order! SAProxy is Consumer Reports' highest rated spam-blocking software in the Aug 2003 issue! I quote: "This outperformed the others and it's free. But you must have patienc

[SAtalk] Hoping that whom ever runs SA Site will get this

2003-07-07 Thread Ben Johansen
Hi, This is for the admins of the SpamAssassin site. if I go into account options https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/options/spamassassin-talk and give it my email address and click "Email My Password to Me" I never receive it. At first I thought it may be blocked by my mail server but checke

RE: [SAtalk] problem filtering all mail to single spam mailbox

2003-07-07 Thread Nichols, William
ps -aux | grep procmail -Original Message- From: Richard Humphrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 6:35 AM To: Spamassassin-List How can I tell if what user procmail is running as? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Beha

Re: [SAtalk] Getting Spamassassin and a Anti-Virus working

2003-07-07 Thread Gerry Doris
> I was looking to get spamassassin and an anti virus program, sophos, > openantivirus, or anything that would work in conjunction with > spamassassin as a mail gateway. I have a production mail server and I > want to create just a SMTP relay to protect the production mail server > and have spamass

Re: [SAtalk] Getting Spamassassin and a Anti-Virus working

2003-07-07 Thread mikea
On Mon, Jul 07, 2003 at 09:21:27AM -0700, Christopher Lyon wrote: > I was looking to get spamassassin and an anti virus program, sophos, > openantivirus, or anything that would work in conjunction with > spamassassin as a mail gateway. I have a production mail server and I > want to create just a S

[SAtalk] Getting Spamassassin and a Anti-Virus working

2003-07-07 Thread Christopher Lyon
I was looking to get spamassassin and an anti virus program, sophos, openantivirus, or anything that would work in conjunction with spamassassin as a mail gateway. I have a production mail server and I want to create just a SMTP relay to protect the production mail server and have spamassassin and

[SAtalk] Embedding Perl (Mail::SpamAssassin) in a C program

2003-07-07 Thread Joe Flowers
Help please. I'm trying to embed the following "very few" Perl lines in a Microsoft Visual C++ v6 C program. //use Mail::SpamAssassin; //my $spamobj = Mail::SpamAssassin->new(); //my $status = $spamobj->check_message_text($input); //my $spamstr = (($status->is_spam()) ? "Yes" : "No"); //my $outpu

RE: [SAtalk] problem filtering all mail to single spam mailbox

2003-07-07 Thread Richard Humphrey
How can I tell if what user procmail is running as? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Simon Byrnand Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 5:40 PM To: Richard Humphrey; Spamassassin-List Subject: Re: [SAtalk] problem filtering all mail to single spam m

Re: [SAtalk] How can I receive spam?

2003-07-07 Thread Yuval Kojman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 There are sites like http://www.spamarchive.org/ which exist to collect spam. Additionally you may want to put that address down in many forums, websites and so forth as possible. Newsgroups don't get you spammed as much as publicizing does. Try seein

[SAtalk] amavisd-new -> spamassassin does not create/update bayes db

2003-07-07 Thread Branko F. Gračnar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi there... I'm using amavisd-new-20030616 with spamassassin 2.55 on freebsd 5.1 platform. My problem is, that spamassassin does not create or update bayes db. If i manually issue command spamassassin < mymail.txt bayes db is created in ~/.spamassas

Re: [SAtalk] How can I receive spam?

2003-07-07 Thread Matthew Cline
On Monday 07 July 2003 12:41 am, Izquierdo, Raul wrote: > Hi, I have installed spamassassin with MySQL based preferences. It > works fine and each user can modify his preferences with a web interface. > Tought it could seem incredible, my problem is to receive spam!. I > know people who

[SAtalk] How can I receive spam?

2003-07-07 Thread Izquierdo, Raul
Title: How can I receive spam?     Hi, I have installed spamassassin with MySQL based preferences. It works fine and each user can modify his preferences with a web interface.     Tought it could seem incredible, my problem is to receive spam!. I know people who receives it but I thin