[SAtalk] Re: CVS Rules site [was Freedom of Press / Speech / Junk Mail (yahright)]

2002-04-01 Thread Matt Sergeant
Craig Hughes wrote: > Well, one issue is that rules are sometimes evals, with corresponding > updates to Mail::Spamassassin::EvalTests Then EvalTests should move from being a .pm module to being another .rc file that gets evalled as part of the compilation stage. Matt. ___

RE: [SAtalk] site-wide AWL and user_prefs

2002-04-01 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
> > If I use sitewide AWL (as defined in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf) > but > > still allow individual users to create their own user_prefs where they > could > > create whitelist_from entries would this skew the sitewide AWL db for > other > > users? > > Bart Schaefer mentioned this, and I

Re: [SAtalk] site-wide AWL and user_prefs

2002-04-01 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:02:04PM -0500, rODbegbie wrote: > > If I use sitewide AWL (as defined in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf) > but > > still allow individual users to create their own user_prefs where they > could > > create whitelist_from entries would this skew the sitewide AWL db for

Re: [SAtalk] site-wide AWL and user_prefs

2002-04-01 Thread rODbegbie
> If I use sitewide AWL (as defined in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf) but > still allow individual users to create their own user_prefs where they could > create whitelist_from entries would this skew the sitewide AWL db for other > users? Bart Schaefer mentioned this, and I entered this int

Re: [SAtalk] spamc & procmail

2002-04-01 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 09:13:58AM -0500, Jeffrey Bacon wrote: > So you've got it running on a LInix box? I'm having a devil of a time > gettig mail to be delivered after running ti through spamc on my Red Hat > box. Could you just check to see if my setup is the same as yours? > > /etc/procm

[SAtalk] site-wide AWL and user_prefs

2002-04-01 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
Want to pose this question to the more knowlegeable: If I use sitewide AWL (as defined in my /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf) but still allow individual users to create their own user_prefs where they could create whitelist_from entries would this skew the sitewide AWL db for other users? Here is

Re: [SAtalk] spamc & procmail

2002-04-01 Thread Kevin Cosgrove
That could be equivalent to my set-up. I start spamd from /etc/rc.d/ init.d/spamassassin, which basicly runs "spamd -d -u spamd", where the spamd user has no privileges. I've attached my procmail recipe. Good luck... On 30 March 2002 at 9:13, Jeffrey Bacon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So you'v

Re: [SAtalk] wierd delivery problem

2002-04-01 Thread Jeff Bacon
That worked! Thanks, man! Craig Hughes wrote: >Add the flag '-F1' to the spamd command line and restart spamd. > >C > >On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 20:12, Jeffrey J. Bacon wrote: > >>Shows up when I cat/more/tail the file but (I just checked) not with 'mail'. >>Here's the mail from the spool file: >>

[SAtalk] How does SA decide which IPs to check against DULs?

2002-04-01 Thread Marc MERLIN
I was able to get my mail server to add a special header for people who relay mail through me from dialup IPs after having done an SMTP AUTH, so their mail doesn't get flagged by SA anymore (since I have an SA rule to add a -100 if the auth header is present) However, from time to time,

Re: [SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Try the following: # . /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions # killproc spamd What does it say? C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:57, AHA Lists wrote: > I am running this as root. Any other ideas? > > > > on 4/1/02 11:43 AM, Craig Hughes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Only thing I can think of is you're

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Sidney Markowitz
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:53, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > Not everybody watches good morning america. I, for one, do not. > Sorry for the misguided attempt to be helpful. At the risk of being off topic, following the theory that politeness should always be as public as the opposite, I would like

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Søren Boll Overgaard
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 09:35:29AM -0800, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 08:41, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > > Simply use the "unzip" program, which should be part of your distribution. > > No, no, no! These questions are from Windows users! > > Craig, before this list gets ove

Re: [SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread AHA Lists
I am running this as root. Any other ideas? on 4/1/02 11:43 AM, Craig Hughes at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Only thing I can think of is you're not root when trying to run the > shutdown script, so you can't kill the process. Become root first, then > run the script. > > C > > On Mon, 2002-

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Ok, the web page is now updated. I also sent an email to Tiffany Shlain, GMA's "computer expert" to hopefully clarify things with her so she's ready next time :) C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 09:35, Sidney Markowitz wrote: > On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 08:41, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > > Simply use the

RE: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Nick Fisher
HAHAHAHAHA! And here's me thinking I was causing annoyance with my Win32 questions! If there are any Win32 users that *realy* want to try out SA, my proxy does work (mostly) but it's certainly not at a "point and drool" release. Any dedicated Win32 users who aren't scared of installing Perl and ge

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Rich Wellner
Sidney Markowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Perhaps you can suggest that Windows end users speak to their ISP > about installing Spamassassin as a service to their customers. You might also consider setting up an email service for $5 a month or so that runs spamassassin. I'd be willing to he

Re: [SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Only thing I can think of is you're not root when trying to run the shutdown script, so you can't kill the process. Become root first, then run the script. C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 06:57, AHA Lists wrote: > When ever I try and stop spamd I get an error using the redhat init script. > > /etc/rc.

Re: [SAtalk] Autoreplying to SPAM, good or bad?

2002-04-01 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
On Mon, 1 Apr 2002 the voices made Jay Jacobs write: > To put it nicely, I'd say this idea could use some refining. It's very > common for spammers to either spoof the source address or not check the > mail once spam is sent out. True, and that's the part that I'm not happy with... at the same

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Sidney Markowitz
On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 08:41, Søren Boll Overgaard wrote: > Simply use the "unzip" program, which should be part of your distribution. No, no, no! These questions are from Windows users! Craig, before this list gets overwhelmed with pleas for help from naive PC owners who watched Good Morning Ame

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Oh my god. SpamAssassin on GMA. We're doomed. Cheryl, I didn't see the show, but I imagine that they probably failed to point out that SA doesn't currently run on Windows. I'll try calling the show and seeing what they actually said, and if they want some clarification of things... C On Mon,

RE: [SAtalk] Choosing a prefs file on the command line

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
Sounds great Ed. Could you stick the patch in a bugzilla ticket so we can track it, then assign it to me once it's ready to roll into CVS? Thanks, C On Mon, 2002-04-01 at 01:30, CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson wrote: > I am working on a vpopmail patch to SA. My first go at it on Friday looks > g

Re: [SAtalk] Spamd time zone

2002-04-01 Thread Craig Hughes
It may be a syslog thing now that you mention that. I think I've seen that before with syslog not noticing some clock changes (mainly TZ changes) until it's restarted (or maybe SIGHUP also works) C On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 20:29, Matthew Dickinson wrote: > > > It took a full stop/start of both s

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi Sarah, To save you some time and grief, spamassassin is not meant to run on Windows at the enduser point. It is supposed to be run by your ISP on their Unix mail server, although I'm sure some smart Windows admin's have it running on Windows mail servers as well. Regards, Rick - Origi

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Gregor Lawatscheck
At 18:31 01/04/2002, you wrote: >Help!? I successfully downloaded Spamassasin 2.11 in zip format, but >when I go to open it, I don't know what application program to look for, >and it's not automatically finding one itself > >How do I get this started so I can start using it with my e-mail? >

RE: [SAtalk] Choosing a prefs file on the command line

2002-04-01 Thread Gawain
At 4:30 AM -0500 on 4/1/02, CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson wrote: >I have patched spamd to look for >user prefs in the users vpopmail homedir. When I get closer I will forward >the patch to you and perhaps you can test it? Sounds like just what we need. Send it along when it's ready and I'll tr

Re: [SAtalk] Autoreplying to SPAM, good or bad?

2002-04-01 Thread Jay Jacobs
To put it nicely, I'd say this idea could use some refining. It's very common for spammers to either spoof the source address or not check the mail once spam is sent out. Since my ratio of real to false-positives is about 300:1 per week, I'd be sending out 300 wastes of resources a week. They'd

Re: [SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Søren Boll Overgaard
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 10:31:09AM -0600, Sarah Guthmann wrote: > Help!? I successfully downloaded Spamassasin 2.11 in zip format, but > when I go to open it, I don't know what application program to look for, > and it's not automatically finding one itself > > How do I get this started so I

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 07:51:36AM -0800, Rob McMillin wrote: > Good Morning America? No, that can't be. According to their webpage, they were going to have a "Web expert" on to share some tips about filtering out junk email: http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/GoodMorningAmerica/GMA020401Tiffany

[SAtalk] In need of very basic HELP

2002-04-01 Thread Sarah Guthmann
Help!? I successfully downloaded Spamassasin 2.11 in zip format, but when I go to open it, I don't know what application program to look for, and it's not automatically finding one itself How do I get this started so I can start using it with my e-mail? Thanks so much, from an embarassed no

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Rob McMillin
Theo Van Dinter wrote: >On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 07:51:36AM -0800, Rob McMillin wrote: > >>Good Morning America? No, that can't be. >> > >According to their webpage, they were going to have a "Web expert" on to >share some tips about filtering out junk email: > >http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/

[SAtalk] Autoreplying to SPAM, good or bad?

2002-04-01 Thread Tony L. Svanstrom
I've set up my filters to reply to all that's caught as SPAM, mostly to be able to have them somewhat strict without risking that friends and/or work- related e-mails are deleted without any warnings. The goal is a riskfree system that is 100% invisible to me; and that's simple enough to work a

Re: [SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Rob McMillin
Cheryl Harlow wrote: I tried to download Spam Assassin and now I can't get it to work???  I tried downloading it as a zip and also the first version listed on the page.  Everytime I unzipped and attempted to load using WinZip I got an error message from Microsoft and

[SAtalk] Error shutting down spamd

2002-04-01 Thread AHA Lists
When ever I try and stop spamd I get an error using the redhat init script. /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd stop Shutting down spamd: ERROR! If I try and use restart I get /etc/rc.d/init.d/spamd restart Shutting down spamd: ERROR! Starting spamd: spamdbind: Address already in use at /usr/bin/spamd line

[SAtalk] Help with installation????

2002-04-01 Thread Cheryl Harlow
I tried to download Spam Assassin and now I can't get it to work???  I tried downloading it as a zip and also the first version listed on the page.  Everytime I unzipped and attempted to load using WinZip I got an error message from Microsoft and it closed down.  I'm not a computer whiz per

RE: [SAtalk] Choosing a prefs file on the command line

2002-04-01 Thread CertaintyTech - Ed Henderson
I am working on a vpopmail patch to SA. My first go at it on Friday looks good. When it is ready I will release it to the list in a few days. Basically you pass the email address using "spamc -u [EMAIL PROTECTED]" (like the SQL lookup feature) and spamd will look up userinfo from vpopmail. Norma

[SAtalk] Re: consumerpackage.net

2002-04-01 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, Rich Duzenbury wrote: > I don't believe I signed up for this. Seems that if there is a > 'complain to' header, it is likely spam. What do you think? Bad heuristic. Many ISP systems insert such a header into all messages relayed through them to assist in tracing ill behavior